A Different Versailles

Something I was wondering a few days ago was if a Central Powers victory in 1918 would still result in a reduction in the number of monarchies in Europe? I don't know if the disestablishment of certain monarchies was directly related to the war or not.

I mean, of the victors, by 1918, Britain was the only monarchy left (America, France and Russia were all republics). But would Europe still move along the path towards republics as OTL?
 
Probably there would be more monarchies. All CPs were conservative moncarchies and they hardly wan't enforce British monarchy down and they even couldn't if they would want.
 
Would a victorious CP be enough to save the German monarchies though? And how might they react to Russia post-1917, since its not as though they can de-republicize France, but Russia is still recent enough to many German monarchies related to the Romanovs.
 
Would a victorious CP be enough to save the German monarchies though? And how might they react to Russia post-1917, since its not as though they can de-republicize France, but Russia is still recent enough to many German monarchies related to the Romanovs.

The German monarchy would stick around. They would not impose a monarch on France, as they would be unable to without occupying the whole country. Also, to the Hohenzollerns, either the Bourbons or the Bonapartes are little better than the Republic. With Russia, I can see the Germans shipping supplies to the monarchist faction of the Whites.
 
Some further questions:
Would the surviving monarchies in Germany and Austria have to liberalize in order to stay afloat through the Roaring 20s?
Might a second French defeat at German hands lead to loss of confidence in the Third Republic? And if so, what form does the new French governmeent take? Restored monarchy? Third Empire? Dictatorship?
Do we see a souring in Franco-British relations (perhaps France viewing Britain as being too friendly with the Germans due to the numerous blood connections)?
What of the Austro-German plans for a restored Polish monarchy (either under the duke of Teschen or Karl I) and the creation of a Ukrainian monarchy under Archduke Wilhelm? or the German plans to create Baltic duchies from Lithuania (with a Wurttemberger prince as duke), and Courland-Latvia (for Adolf Friedrich of Schwerin)?
Is therre a revanchist movement in Russia over losing Poland, Finland, Ukraine and the imperial Baltic provinces?
 
What of the Austro-German plans for a restored Polish monarchy (either under the duke of Teschen or Karl I) and the creation of a Ukrainian monarchy under Archduke Wilhelm? or the German plans to create Baltic duchies from Lithuania (with a Wurttemberger prince as duke), and Courland-Latvia (for Adolf Friedrich of Schwerin)?
Is therre a revanchist movement in Russia over losing Poland, Finland, Ukraine and the imperial Baltic provinces?

Baltic German duchies - yes, the Ukrainian case - probably not. Germany would have a puppet monarchy/dictatorship in the face of the Hetmanate and they won't feel like sharing influence with Austria. By the same token, the Kingship in rump Poland would be awarded to Leopold of Bavaria or some other noble from Germany itself, not a Habsburg.

There would definitely be a revanchist movement in Russia. After all, they existed and were very strong in Germany and Hungary OTL, and Russia's territorial losses in this scenario would be at least equal to those.
 
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OTL after WWI, the German Colonial Empire in Africa and the East was divided up between France, Britain and America, might a losing British/French Colonial Empire be carved up in the same way? Particularly for instance South Africa, where many Afrikaners supported the German (i.e. Anti-British) cause. So, perhaps the Kaiser expands Sudwestafrika down into the Union of South Africa, and supports the Boer Rebellions against the British, then forces the British to restore the OFS and ZAR to independence?
 
I don't think that Britain's empire would be carved up. It's too big, and Germany or Italy's navy isn't on par with Britain's. Pieces of it might be, the South African idea sounds plausible enough to me (maybe someone knows more), and maybe desirous bits adjacent to other colonies, but a German Emperor who's also Emperor of India or King of Australasia or Canada sounds a bit ASB.

Might alt-Versailles (I can't think where else the treary might be signed, maybe Copenhagen (someone OTL suggested that I think), eventually lead to a fracturing of the Alliance system in Europe. Germany and Austria have a falling out among thieves over Poland or wherever, France and Britain go back to being wary adversaries, and as a result, we see a WWII between Germany-Britain-whoever and Austria-France-maybe Italy. And Russia will fight with the attempt to get back land in Poland, Ukraine, Finland and the Baltic.
 
We are talking about a 1918 victory for the CP, so Germany, A-H and the Ottoman Empire are not in good shape even if victorious.
Germany will face political turbolence like the OTL victorious nations as the socialist will clash with the junkers for reform and the economic problem of the post war europe will pour oil on the fire (not even considering the cost in both blood and tresure to paficy the new empire in the east)...but the other two empire are in dire straits, the previous mentioned problems will add to the prewar ones and their survive of that nation even in the brief period is highly dubious.

Forcing the British Empire to give up something is basically impossible, the CP don't have any mean to coerce Great Britain.

All that factors will play an important role in this Alternate Versailles.
Berlin can kiss goodbye to his colonial empire (not that many will really cry) if she play hard, something can be given back (plus some French colony and Congo) if Belgium is restored and at France is cut some slack otherwise is more probable that London will absorb even the german colonies occupied by the French and Congo (plus some piece of the Ottoman Empire)
 
We are talking about a 1918 victory for the CP, so Germany, A-H and the Ottoman Empire are not in good shape even if victorious.
Germany will face political turbolence like the OTL victorious nations as the socialist will clash with the junkers for reform and the economic problem of the post war europe will pour oil on the fire (not even considering the cost in both blood and tresure to paficy the new empire in the east)...but the other two empire are in dire straits, the previous mentioned problems will add to the prewar ones and their survive of that nation even in the brief period is highly dubious.

Forcing the British Empire to give up something is basically impossible, the CP don't have any mean to coerce Great Britain.

All that factors will play an important role in this Alternate Versailles.
Berlin can kiss goodbye to his colonial empire (not that many will really cry) if she play hard, something can be given back (plus some French colony and Congo) if Belgium is restored and at France is cut some slack otherwise is more probable that London will absorb even the german colonies occupied by the French and Congo (plus some piece of the Ottoman Empire)

So Germany will likely lose the peace (and her colonies) even if she wins the war? Interesting.

If Britain still makes gains or at least preserves her empire's territorial integrity in the wake of this Versailles, will France perhaps see a bit of undertable dealing between London and Berlin where there isn't any?
 
My interest in this has been revived by seeing a recent quote by Winston Churchill:

If the Allies at the peace table at Versailles had allowed a Hohenzollern, a Wittelsbach and a Habsburg to return to their thrones, there would have been no Hitler. A democratic basis of society might have been preserved by a crowned Weimar in contact with the victorious Allies."

This war would never have come unless, under American and modernising pressure, we had driven the Habsburgs out of Austria and the Hohenzollerns out of Germany. By making these vacuums we gave the opening for the Hitlerite monster to crawl out of its sewer on to the vacant thrones. No doubt these views are very unfashionable....

So, is there a way that even if Germany were to lose, could there be a way that the "Flight of the Eagles" could've been prevent
 
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