A different job for Ayn Rand

Ayn Rand was actually anti-racist and for civil rights so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Try rereading both her words and what I actually said.

She made the bizarre argument that racism was wrong because it's supposedly "collectivist". Never mind that much of the reason racism was created and perpetuated was to justify rights to individual property over human rights. (Think both slavery and the theft of Indian lands.) Never mind that collectivists ideologies generally are explicitly anti racist.

As one of her former admirers described:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/an-insiders-look-at-how-a_b_174752.html
"...the shameful fact that the Objectivist movement and its purported belief in individual rights stayed completely on the sidelines during the Rand's intellectual heyday of the 1960s while the single biggest advance in individual liberty was going on - namely, the civil rights movement. Well, Rand did knock out a few pages in an article called Racism in 1963 that spent as much time blaming 'the Negro leaders' as it did the 'Southern Racists'."

Rand also explictly denounced the civil rights movement, calling it a movement of mob rule based on intimidation.
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/civil_disobedience.html
 
Try rereading both her words and what I actually said.

She made the bizarre argument that racism was wrong because it's supposedly "collectivist". Never mind that much of the reason racism was created and perpetuated was to justify rights to individual property over human rights. (Think both slavery and the theft of Indian lands.) Never mind that collectivists ideologies generally are explicitly anti racist.

As one of her former admirers described:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/an-insiders-look-at-how-a_b_174752.html
"...the shameful fact that the Objectivist movement and its purported belief in individual rights stayed completely on the sidelines during the Rand's intellectual heyday of the 1960s while the single biggest advance in individual liberty was going on - namely, the civil rights movement. Well, Rand did knock out a few pages in an article called Racism in 1963 that spent as much time blaming 'the Negro leaders' as it did the 'Southern Racists'."

Rand also explictly denounced the civil rights movement, calling it a movement of mob rule based on intimidation.
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/civil_disobedience.html

She opposed the methods of the civil rights movement but she did support racial equality. Those two are not equivalent. Also slavery and collectivism the point Ayn Rand makes is that the person's right to be free are more important then say slave ownership. She would not approve of slavery as it's taking away people's rights much as she didn't approve of the right of people to kill someone or dictate to someone. Also collectivist ideologies aren't in general racist? Yes I'm sure Nazism, Stalinism, fascism, and other ideologies were the paradigm of tolerance.

Also while we're talking about Rand marrying Writer X what if she marries Raymond Chandler and becomes a murder writer. The Night of January 16th is said to be a good mystery, or perhaps she goes to England and collaborates with Agatha Christie? Speaking of England what if she marries George Orwell? The book 1984 may be the size of Atlas Shrugged.
 
Ayn Rand the Doctor

Think of the TV series "House".

If a sociopath like Doctor House could theoretically (and almost plausibly) be a great diagnostician, then why couldn't Any Rand?
 
Think of the TV series "House".

If a sociopath like Doctor House could theoretically (and almost plausibly) be a great diagnostician, then why couldn't Any Rand?

Good god, sounds like a good AH/TV crossover TL for the Writer's Forum! :D

Next on USA: We the Living, (medical drama) staring Tilda Swinton as Dr. Ayn Rand and George Clooney as Dr. John Galt. "The Red Scare" (2009). Dr. Rand must put her pride against her job when she considers her new boss to be a lesser doctor; meanwhile, a strange outbreak of collectivized microbial infections dubbed the "Red Scare" runs rampant through the hospital.
 
I really fully annoyed by her psuedophilosophy and its followers, once vandalized her wikipedia page to make her a Russian porn star. Ayn Rand as a pin-up girl, anyone? Maybe she'll lead the sexual revolution in the 60s.
 
imagine if Ayn Rand moved to England and ended up married to J.R.R Tolkien .... who is Frodo Baggins??

It's Scary to imagine a Lord of the Rings with Objectivism idea's in it
 

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If she bent over she might be useful as an umbrella rack, that's about it.
 
1. She opposed the methods of the civil rights movement but she did support racial equality....

2. Also collectivist ideologies aren't in general racist? Yes I'm sure Nazism, Stalinism, fascism, and other ideologies were the paradigm of tolerance.

1. Again, try reading what I actually wrote, not what you make up. You actually just agreed with me.

2. To call fascism collectivist is nonsense, when its reason for existing is to protect the individual property of wealthy elites. Socialism (not the Communist perversion of it) and tribal traditions tend to be pretty tolerant. Yes, tribal traditions. Outsiders generally get adopted in and get all the rights of other members in as little as six weeks.
 
(Note to our Objectivist comrades: if you want to respond, it may help if you think of this post as a test of, well, your objectivity. Can you respond with cool logic, as Rand would have wanted you to, or will you be dragged down by sentimentality and unreason...?) Doug M.

Wow, I found just now this fascinating old thread. I'm an Objectivist and I would like to try this test! :D
A different work for Ayn? Alissa Rosenbaum could stay in Russia and become a great Soviet dissident, philosophically more coherent then Sakharov and Solzhenitsin. Surviving Stalin was very difficult and she could be killed in a Gulag in the 30s or 40s. But her "samizdats" could spread freedomist ideals all over Eastern Europe and give the exemple for a future rebellion.

If you introduce a POD in 1917 (no Bolshevik's takeover in Russia), Alissa Rosenbaum could join later the Russian Constitutional Democratic party (KD), trying to re-organize it on the base of her principles. KD was a very non-homogeneous movement, with different ideologies inside (socialists and libertarians, relativists and religious rightists). She could have helped to give it coherence. In case of electoral victory, she could contribute to reform Russia toward modernization and liberalization.
 
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