A delayed Japanese pop-culture start?

Kissinger

Banned
You could butterfly Saban or even better FOX NETWORK!!! MMMUAHAHAHAHAHA:D

Wait those are good things, now if we get dubbing improved then everything would be perfect. (no offense to fans of any series of Toho or Tsurabaya or Adness Entertainment (Kamen Rider Ddragon Knight a great introduction for anyone interested in KR).
 
I was watching the Classic Media version of Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster last night. It has audio commentary by David Kalat, who is the author of A Critical History and Filmography of Toho's Godzilla series. He spoke more of Godzilla in general than the specific movie we were watching. He brought up a couple of interesting things:

1) Big monster movie's appeared in Japan, after they reappeared in the US after the 1952 re-release of King Kong. Godzilla wasn't the only one released at this time in Japan and it was quite possible if it hadn't been released, that some other giant monster movie from Japan could have captured the American market, due to how the Japanese film industry viewed these films, not as B movie fodder, like Attack of the 50 foot Woman or the Amazing Colossal Man etc, but as a serious subject.

2) With Godzilla and other monster movies, many other Japanese Sci-fi projects were pushed aside. Like the monster movies, the Japanese treated Science Fiction as a serious subject. There might be some other projects that catch the Japanese market. An earlier Battleship Yamato maybe?

Torqumada
 

Kissinger

Banned
I was watching the Classic Media version of Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster last night. It has audio commentary by David Kalat, who is the author of A Critical History and Filmography of Toho's Godzilla series. He spoke more of Godzilla in general than the specific movie we were watching. He brought up a couple of interesting things:

1) Big monster movie's appeared in Japan, after they reappeared in the US after the 1952 re-release of King Kong. Godzilla wasn't the only one released at this time in Japan and it was quite possible if it hadn't been released, that some other giant monster movie from Japan could have captured the American market, due to how the Japanese film industry viewed these films, not as B movie fodder, like Attack of the 50 foot Woman or the Amazing Colossal Man etc, but as a serious subject.

2) With Godzilla and other monster movies, many other Japanese Sci-fi projects were pushed aside. Like the monster movies, the Japanese treated Science Fiction as a serious subject. There might be some other projects that catch the Japanese market. An earlier Battleship Yamato maybe?

Torqumada

An earlier SpaceBattleship Yamato? Maybe, this doesnt sound so bad at all except for no Kamen Rider but it does have interesting applications.
 

Delvestius

Banned
Disney's (and Fleischer's) work reached Japan before the war, and the
influence was primarily in style and character design.
I doubt they're going to turn their backs on comics, science fiction and
rock'n'roll just because the Americans are being mean right after the war
as well as before and during.

I don't see why it's so far out of the question. Americans gave up hamburgers and sausage and a slew of other "Germanesque" things during WW1.. I could well imagine a nation doing the same regarding the culture of an occupying force that leveled three of their cities and trashed a bunch more..
 
I don't see why it's so far out of the question. Americans gave up hamburgers and sausage and a slew of other "Germanesque" things during WW1.. I could well imagine a nation doing the same regarding the culture of an occupying force that leveled three of their cities and trashed a bunch more..
They renamed them and kept on using them, which is not quite the same
thing.

Japanese science fiction has enough of a native history and non-American
influences that wanting nothing to do with anything American does not
equal rejecting science fiction as a genre. (Consider that The Communist
Bloc produced plenty of science fiction.)

Japanese comics post-WW2 generally seems less influenced by American
comics than the pre-WW2 ones, but that might be because my sources
give an incomplete picture (for one thing, books about Japanese comics
and the Japanese comics market tend to not give much attention to
the specifics of how non-Japanese comics are published in Japan).
And again, like science fiction, it is not something where rejecting the
American examples equals rejecting the entire medium.
 

NothingNow

Banned
So if the delay of Japanese pop-culture applies to Gundam, then Star Wars would have an entirely different style since the concept of a lightsaber for Star Wars came from Gundam's beam saber.

No, actually, Gundam post dates starwars by a few years actually, as Gundam was a 1979 production, and Star Wars came out in '77.
 
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