A continent as an Inheritance

[Advernt]

With a POD from 1820 , is there any way you could have a European Monarch end up inheriting all nations in Europe that had Monarchs , with the inclusion of the Russians ?

The monarch does not necessarily have to inherit the Ottoman Empire , but if it could be somehow done ...

Seeing that the European Royal Families were related to reach other by the end of the 19th century , it occured to me that if they succeeded in holding on to their thrones , eventually , someone might have ended up inheriting every Kingdom in Europe .

 

[David S Poepoe]

With a POD from 1820 , is there any way you could have a European Monarch end up inheriting all nations in Europe that had Monarchs , with the inclusion of the Russians ?

The monarch does not necessarily have to inherit the Ottoman Empire , but if it could be somehow done ...

Seeing that the European Royal Families were related to reach other by the end of the 19th century , it occured to me that if they succeeded in holding on to their thrones , eventually , someone might have ended up inheriting every Kingdom in Europe .

If that thought had occured to you, than you are sorely mistaken. Such a WI would probably be possible under Napoleon, but post-1820. You seem to be ignoring the rampant, and continueing, spread of nationalism. I would hazard a guess that no situation ever existed that could have had one individual inheriting every kingdom in Europe.

I remember a WI using Kaiser Wilhelm II possibly succeeding to the throne of Britain, but that would have had to of been with the consent of Parliament - and Wilhelm never had the British press on his side as well. Most national parliaments and legislatures were weary of such an event happening, so many of times only a minor royal from another country was approved for marriage into the reigning royal family. Also Europe is basically divided into five religions: Anglican, Protestant, Catholic, Islam and Orthodoxy. There wasn't that much intermarriage between faiths - tho they did take place, like the marriage of Alexandra and Nicholas II of Russia.

 

[nick012000]

One person inheriting all of Europe, with a point of departure from 1820?

A psychotic anti-royalist begins murdering everyone related to every royal family in Europe. He's extremely good, and manages to kill almost every royal before he's taken down by a liberal quantity of explosives.

 

[Advernt]

One person inheriting all of Europe, with a point of departure from 1820?

A psychotic anti-royalist begins murdering everyone related to every royal family in Europe. He's extremely good, and manages to kill almost every royal before he's taken down by a liberal quantity of explosives.

Are you suggesting an Anarchist instigated massacre of much of the royalty of Europe during a possibile diplomatic conference where eighty percent of the European Soveriegns convened ? The day after , one of the severely wounded survivors( A Hapsburg perhaps ) was informed that he has just inherited half the nations in Europe due to that slaughter ?

If we brought the POD back a hundered and twenty years , to 1700 , is it still possible for a monarch to inherit all kingdoms that he could conceivably claim through his blood ties?

 

[David S Poepoe]

If we brought the POD back a hundered and twenty years , to 1700 , is it still possible for a monarch to inherit all kingdoms that he could conceivably claim through his blood ties?

No. The English, Scot, French and Spanish thrones aren't really into intermarrying - tho there are exceptions. The Habsburgs are the closest you can get, but there won't be any non-Catholic coming to the throne in Vienna as well as being at all eligable for any Protestant throne.

 

[Advernt]

When is the latest possible POD ? Thanks for your replies.

 

[Max Sinister]

Would it count if there was a monarch *claiming* to have rightfully inherited all of Europe west of the Russian border? In that case, I'd have one. In my Chaos TL, of course.

(The claim is even true if you believe in divine right of the kings and stuff, but unfortunately, noone is itnerested in it.)

 

[Atreus]

By the grace of god, Otto von Hapsburg, (will not type list of titles for fear that fingers will give out).

 

[Advernt]

By the grace of god, Otto von Hapsburg, (will not type list of titles for fear that fingers will give out).

If a person named Hapsburg with vast reserves of charisma and political accumen presided over the consolidation of European Unification sometime in the far future ...

All hail the Emperor of Europe ?

 

[snerfuplz]

maybe if a metor strikes all the nations but one and that one inheritance all other countries at least in name only. other than that ASBish

 

[Melior]

No, as some of royal families, although having ties, mutually agreed to widthraw any claims to the other's throne. this was a widespread practice very long before 18th century. Anyway, remember some states (san Marino, free German cities etc.) were not monarchies.