A Cont'd Cold War in the 2000's

How does a continued Cold War in the 2000's, with a POD of an alternate succession in the Eighties affect the major events of the early 2000's, including but not limited to: Bush v. Gore, proxy wars around the globe, the rise of Putin, domestic policies of either nation, to name a few.
 
How does a continued Cold War in the 2000's, with a POD of an alternate succession in the Eighties

As raffaele said, the 80s is too late. By then, economically and socially, the USSR was in trouble, specially with the afgan war going. You'd need to go back to the 1960s at the very least.
 
The Eighties is simply too late to save the soviet union so i don't think that the Cold War will continue in the 21th century

As raffaele said, the 80s is too late. By then, economically and socially, the USSR was in trouble, specially with the afgan war going. You'd need to go back to the 1960s at the very least.

An understandable analysis, to be sure, but I would disagree that the Soviet Union is not salvageable by the Eighties. Perhaps a Grigory Romanov premiership after Brezhnev means an economical liberalization coupled with a retrenchment of Communist control, similar to the situation OTL's China is in.

In any case, the exercise of thought is how such a situation would have an effect, rather than whether or not the Soviet Union could survive for such a length.
 
The problem is that China started the reforms in 1978 and was a united country unlike the USSR
There is also the little problem by the time of Brezhnev's death it was already too late for the reforms

How so?

I am curious as to why reform for the Soviet Union was impossible to implement by the time of Brezhnev's death, especially considering that Gorbachev accomplished the economic goals I speak of.

Furthermore, how was China more united than the Soviet Union in by 1978? I am equally as curious about this.

Trust me, I am anything but a Soviet Union apologist, but I am interested as to how you came to these conclusions.
 

Philip

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In any case, the exercise of thought is how such a situation would have an effect, rather than whether or not the Soviet Union could survive for such a length.

A surviving USSR and continuing Cold War radically changes the 90s.

There is no drawdone of US forces, no peace dividend. The Gulf War, if it occurs, is a huge question. The USSR will not take lightly the massing of Western Forces on her southern border. Then again, will NATO be willing to transfer forces from Western Europe to the Middle East if the Big Red Monster is still staring at them across the Falda Gap? Does the US leave forces in KSA? How does OBL and friends react? Does Yugoslavia still fall apart? Do either NATO or WARPAC intervene? Is there still a Dot Com bubble? Was Clinton nominated or elected? Twice?

So much you have to address before questions about the 2000s become relevant.
 
A surviving USSR and continuing Cold War radically changes the 90s.

There is no drawdone of US forces, no peace dividend. The Gulf War, if it occurs, is a huge question. The USSR will not take lightly the massing of Western Forces on her southern border. Then again, will NATO be willing to transfer forces from Western Europe to the Middle East if the Big Red Monster is still staring at them across the Falda Gap? Does the US leave forces in KSA? How does OBL and friends react? Does Yugoslavia still fall apart? Do either NATO or WARPAC intervene? Is there still a Dot Com bubble? Was Clinton nominated or elected? Twice?

So much you have to address before questions about the 2000s become relevant.

For this situation, essentially, I would think Bush would be re-elected, albeit admittedly on shaky reasoning, as one of the main reasons for an economic recession around 1992 was the rebound from lowered military spending due to the end of the Cold War, an obviously nonexistent reason if the Cold War continues.

As for the others, I am not totally sure about, as my armchair historian level of expertise is not in the era of the Nineties and beyond.
 
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