A child of Philip and Mary becomes heir to Spain

Joao had only two surviving childrens by Catherine of Austria: a daughter, Maria Manuela (first wife of Philip II and mother of Don Carlos, Prince of Asturias) and a son John/Juan/João (husband of Juana of Spain, the younger sister of Philip II and father of King Sebastian).
OTL Don Carlos died unmarried and so without heirs before Sebastian’s death. If he had left descendants, something likely to happen if Mary of England’s death had not pushed the French to offer Elisabeth of Valois as bride for his newly widowed father instead of marry her to Carlos as was originally decided.

Hmm interesting. So, if we go with Mary living until say 1570ish-perhaps with better health and no shit showing from her father?- we could see Carlos and Elisabeth de Valois marrying, perhaps Carlos doesn't go as mad as he did otl? Or if he does and still dies, if he leaves one or two children before then that should be okay?
 
Hmm interesting. So, if we go with Mary living until say 1570ish-perhaps with better health and no shit showing from her father?- we could see Carlos and Elisabeth de Valois marrying, perhaps Carlos doesn't go as mad as he did otl? Or if he does and still dies, if he leaves one or two children before then that should be okay?
Yes. A son (but a daughter also work) of Carlos will be good as him for uniting Portugal and Spain.
Without the death of Mary at the OTL time the French would have zero reason to transfer the proposed betrothal between Elisabeth and Carlos to his father so if Mary live longer Carlos and Elisabeth will marry and likely have children together. If Carlos is still alive he will become a King of Portugal after Sebastian’s death and King of Spain, Naples, Sicily and Sardinia and Duke of Milan after Philip’s death. If he left a son the same, if he left a daughter also (excluding Milan, who will go to another son of Philip or back to the Emperor)
 
Yes. A son (but a daughter also work) of Carlos will be good as him for uniting Portugal and Spain.
Without the death of Mary at the OTL time the French would have zero reason to transfer the proposed betrothal between Elisabeth and Carlos to his father so if Mary live longer Carlos and Elisabeth will marry and likely have children together. If Carlos is still alive he will become a King of Portugal after Sebastian’s death and King of Spain, Naples, Sicily and Sardinia and Duke of Milan after Philip’s death. If he left a son the same, if he left a daughter also (excluding Milan, who will go to another son of Philip or back to the Emperor)

This makes sense, so we could potentially see a son by Philip and Mary gaining Milan, if Carlos leaves a daughter
 
Can the son of Mary and Philip please wed someone not related to him!?

Shouldn't be that hard considering Mary would be dictating marriage policy I imagine aha

How about Victoria of France daughter of Henry II and Catherine de Medici

If we go with Carlos and Elisabeth I think the son of Mary and Philip will likely marry one of his Austrian cousin, but maybe not a daughter of Maximilian and Mary (so a second cousin instead of a first one) but either https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibylle_of_Jülich-Cleves-Berg or Maximiliana Maria of Bavaria
 
Hmm this is true, I do think they’d want someone quite close in age no? To avoid the problem that Henry viii and Catherine faced
 
Hmm this is true, I do think they’d want someone quite close in age no? To avoid the problem that Henry viii and Catherine faced
Yes so a bride not more than five years older works better but much depend also by the time of the wedding, if that happenwwhen the bridegroom is 13/15 years old the bride will be in the right age for babymaking (and Catherine lived in poverty and fasted too much in the seven years between her weddings, ruining her body). Eleonore is about six years older than young Philip, her sister Anna and her cousin Maria Maximiliana of Bavaria about four years older, Magdalene three years older and Sibylle about a year younger.
If having a bride who will quickly be ready for babymaking an older bride is better so one between Anna, Magdalene and Maximiliana will be the choised one.
The 15 years old Louis XV in 1725 was married to the 22 years old Marie Leszczynska (who was seven years older than him) exactly for securing the French succession as soon was possible and they had many surviving children (but sadly a lot of daughters and only one son)
 
Yes so a bride not more than five years older works better but much depend also by the time of the wedding, if that happenwwhen the bridegroom is 13/15 years old the bride will be in the right age for babymaking (and Catherine lived in poverty and fasted too much in the seven years between her weddings, ruining her body). Eleonore is about six years older than young Philip, her sister Anna and her cousin Maria Maximiliana of Bavaria about four years older, Magdalene three years older and Sibylle about a year younger.
If having a bride who will quickly be ready for babymaking an older bride is better so one between Anna, Magdalene and Maximiliana will be the choised one.
The 15 years old Louis XV in 1725 was married to the 22 years old Marie Leszczynska (who was seven years older than him) exactly for securing the French succession as soon was possible and they had many surviving children (but sadly a lot of daughters and only one son)

Hmm then perhaps Anna of Cleves
 
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