A "British Theodore Roosevelt"

Gentlemen, for a timeline I am working on with a slightly earlier Great War (1905-1908), I am in the need of a British Prime Minister who is as much a Theodore Roosevelt as possible. And sorry, the Roosevelt family simply emigrating to Southern England, having Theodore or his alternate brother grow up there and entering Parliament just won't cut it.

So what am I looking for? A proud, loyal imperialist with a large appetite for expansion or warfare (a la Salisbury or Rosebery), with a radical bent (a la Joe Chamberlain or David Lloyd George), a wealthy, aristocratic background (again, a la Salisbury or Rosebery) and additionally a militaristic background (a la Lord Kitchener), preferably with connections to India so I can have him enjoy elephant hunting on his spare time.

Any suggestions?
 
Agreed. Or Randolph, but you need to keep him alive and out of trouble, somehow.

Or even the Duke of Welling-oh wait that went horrifically wrong.

For an earlier Great War, you could have Cecil Rhodes on the idea of him making far more money, maybe not causing the Second Anglo-Boer War so maybe no Jameson Raid, the success of Smuts taking over Boer Republic leads to him going into politics and rapidly shooting up as a compromise between the Liberal Unionists and the Conservatives.

Prime Minister Rhodes itself has big changes, almost as big as a surviving Randolph to 1909 at the latest so that will make for an interesting TL. :)
 
Agreed. Or Randolph, but you need to keep him alive and out of trouble, somehow.

Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill.

Damned, is there some fundamental law of meta-chronology that a fellow by the name Spancer-Churchill will inevitably become an important 20th century Prime Minister?

Hell, it's even worse than that! I left out it being the Roosevelt family emigrating to Britain because it felt a bit too forced, but considering that Winston's mother was American, I can simply make Lord Randolph Churchill (b. 1849) marry Theodore Roosevelt's (b. 1858) alternate sister instead of Jennie Jerome (b. 1854) and create Teddy Churchill in a perfectly plausible way!

Is it plausible for a thirty-something Teddy Churchill to be Prime Minister in 1905? I mean, Pitt the Younger was merely 24 when he became First Lord of the Treasury in 1783...

Or perhaps it's more reasonable with Prime Minister Cecil Rhodes and Secretary of State for War Theodore Churchill?
 
He didn't need to be gunho, Britian had a real army and an empire.:D

This is quite key - a British Teddy is ideologically never going to happen, because the British Empire by the 1900s had nothing to prove - the exact opposite of the 'American Empire' of the 1890s and 1900s. An expansionist British PM would be looking to build on, not create, an Empire.

Rhodes or Churchill would be good candidates for this sort of 'conservative radical' (deliberate small c) - but even by uttering those words I'm wondering whether we ought to just read FaBR or Use Your Loaf.
 
This is quite key - a British Teddy is ideologically never going to happen, because the British Empire by the 1900s had nothing to prove - the exact opposite of the 'American Empire' of the 1890s and 1900s. An expansionist British PM would be looking to build on, not create, an Empire.

Rhodes or Churchill would be good candidates for this sort of 'conservative radical' (deliberate small c) - but even by uttering those words I'm wondering whether we ought to just read FaBR or Use Your Loaf.

Rhodes would complete the triangle of "reform at home, imperialism abroad" thing we have going now, though reading FaBR and Use Your Loaf is something we ought to do as both are high quality stuff, although the latter has ensured I won't win any Turtledoves in early 20th century history if it gets to that point.
 
Damned, is there some fundamental law of meta-chronology that a fellow by the name Spancer-Churchill will inevitably become an important 20th century Prime Minister?

Well, you asked for this:

So what am I looking for? A proud, loyal imperialist with a large appetite for expansion or warfare (a la Salisbury or Rosebery),

Fit Winston as a tee


with a radical bent (a la Joe Chamberlain or David Lloyd George),

Look at his measures when he was President of the Board of Trade.

a wealthy, aristocratic background (again, a la Salisbury or Rosebery)

He was cousin of the Duke of Marlborough!

and additionally a militaristic background (a la Lord Kitchener), preferably with connections to India so I can have him enjoy elephant hunting on his spare time.

Served in India and the Boer War.

Any suggestions?

Well, Winston fits all your requirements.
 
Teddy would disagree:

"Theodore Roosevelt met Churchill in December 1900 while the brash young English politician was lecturing in the United States. Roosevelt did not become an admirer. In this 1908 letter Roosevelt says that Winston's father Randolph "was a rather cheap character," and that Winston "is a rather cheap character." He would later add that both father and son displayed "levity, lack of sobriety, lack of permanent principle, and an inordinate thirst for that cheap form of admiration which is given to notoriety."
 
"Theodore Roosevelt met Churchill in December 1900 while the brash young English politician was lecturing in the United States. Roosevelt did not become an admirer. In this 1908 letter Roosevelt says that Winston's father Randolph "was a rather cheap character," and that Winston "is a rather cheap character." He would later add that both father and son displayed "levity, lack of sobriety, lack of permanent principle, and an inordinate thirst for that cheap form of admiration which is given to notoriety."

Pot, Kettle, Black?
 
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