CalBear said Truman served three terms ITTL. Here: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...merican-nazi-war.140356/page-246#post-4735819Wait wouldn't this be JPK jr's third term if he wins in 1960?
CalBear said Truman served three terms ITTL. Here: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...merican-nazi-war.140356/page-246#post-4735819Wait wouldn't this be JPK jr's third term if he wins in 1960?
Oh huh, I must have misrememberedCalBear said Truman served three terms ITTL. Here: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...merican-nazi-war.140356/page-246#post-4735819
What help does Britain need in 1960 in projecting power that India doesn't? It doesn't lack for ships, or planes, or nukes, or bases/territories around the world. Even today Britain is one of three nations that can project power world-wide, I can't see how that ability would have been lost despite being on total war footing for two decades straight..
Slight spoiler alert, I do believe that to make up the 65 British divisions CalBear says were deployed in the Hot War (lost somewhere in the lore, I forgot to save the link!! 😡 My fault entirely.) Britain would have to pull on substantial Commonwealth forces.Sure its army would likely be smaller than the US and India (unless you include commonwealth forces)
I'd love to see what happened to Gandhi, Nehru, and Jinnah.Financial. Britain has exhausted its financial means here just as it exhausted them in OTL.
Don’t get me wrong, Britain is still a great power and will likely remain one after economic recovery. For now though she needs a leg up and to rebuild her economy.
Whitehall should have thought much of this out during the war. I will cover much of this in the next update.
India, much like the United States, saw a growth in its power during the war. Again, will cover in future updates.
Britain may be exhausted here but Britain certainly isn’t going to just keel over and die.
Any help/advice you could provide would be appreciated. Please pm me if you think of anything.
Slight spoiler alert, I do believe that to make up the 65 British divisions CalBear says were deployed in the Hot War (lost somewhere in the lore, I forgot to save the link!! 😡 My fault entirely.) Britain would have to pull on substantial Commonwealth forces.
I will cover this in more detail on future updates.
The Philippines became independent on July 4, 1947 (1 year later than OTL). At some point, the U.S. stationed Javelin IRBMs at Malanao Island off Palawan, which drew protest from India seeing that these missiles could easily reach the subcontinent.And don’t forget to cover updates on East Asia, including the Philippines.
According to Calbear, the Cabal took over China in 1965I don’t remember what CalBear’s lore on China was.
I think the Cabal came about mid-60s backed by India.
Thank you very much for pointing out Britain's financial exhaustion, which has to be much worse than iOTL given the much longer wra. I wish Calbear had gone into it, and I'm glad you're going to.Financial. Britain has exhausted its financial means here just as it exhausted them in OTL.
Don’t get me wrong, Britain is still a great power and will likely remain one after economic recovery. For now though she needs a leg up and to rebuild her economy.
Whitehall should have thought much of this out during the war. I will cover much of this in the next update.
India, much like the United States, saw a growth in its power during the war. Again, will cover in future updates.
Britain may be exhausted here but Britain certainly isn’t going to just keel over and die.
Any help/advice you could provide would be appreciated. Please pm me if you think of anything.
Slight spoiler alert, I do believe that to make up the 65 British divisions CalBear says were deployed in the Hot War (lost somewhere in the lore, I forgot to save the link!! 😡 My fault entirely.) Britain would have to pull on substantial Commonwealth forces.
I will cover this in more detail on future updates.
Thanks.According to Calbear, the Cabal took over China in 1965
My main challenge is putting together units from the Empire. Trying to work out which colonies would provide the most forces. Looking at which colonies had large young fighting-age male populations which make up armies. Maybe Nigeria?Thank you very much for pointing out Britain's financial exhaustion, which has to be much worse than iOTL given the much longer wra. I wish Calbear had gone into it, and I'm glad you're going to.
Also, I totally agree that Britain would've had to pull on Commonwealth forces - even IOTL, Montgomery got virtually no replacement troops after D-Day.
Nehru is Prime Minister of India here.I'd love to see what happened to Gandhi, Nehru, and Jinnah.
I really want to see how Africa and Asia are impacted. How does decolonization go this time? Will it be faster because the US doesn't have the time or patience to have empires around anymore?
I was referring to places that haven’t gotten independence yet.The Anglo/American - Nazi War
Okay. Here ya go- 1961 – Full independence of India, already a practical fact, granted exactly 365 days after final defeat of Third Reich. “Year of Hunger” across Europe. With destruction of machinery, casualties due to being caught in a war zone, bio-weapons, loss of draft animals and other...www.alternatehistory.com
Here. The decolonization of Africa and Asia are explained by Calbear can be read right here.
India got a full independence by 1961 without any sort of violence like OTL, 1947 Partition after the World War II. Countries like Algeria and Morocco are both vote for full independence, thanks to the Right of Self Determination was mentioned in the TTL. Also, Kenya becomes 1st British colony in Africa to begin conversion to full independence, same applies to Nigeria, Rhodesia, Tanzania, Uganda, and Zambia by 1964. However, Sub-Saharan Africa still under control by French, Belgian and Portuguese would call Commonwealth for assistance in the same year of Kenya was fully independent.
And thus, Vietnam (part of French colony) would later become an independent state and staunch ally of the US despite of the complaining from the Sixth Republic of France demanded every territories should go back to their control.
Hmmm. That would be Sub-Saharan Africa.I was referring to places that haven’t gotten independence yet.
Fair.Hmmm. That would be Sub-Saharan Africa.
I would imagine less US and Soviet interventions helping rebels or dictators (OTOH, the Cabal would have no issue helping people like Mobutu), along with 20 years by the Allies to try to train up local elites, if only to give them the needed resources to destroy Nazism.Fair.
Was wondering how postcolonial governments will work out with no Cold War.