A Better Versailles Treaty Challenge

I don't know whether this has been done before but I think it might be quite interesting. Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to rewrite the Versailles Treaty preventing World War Two and doing your best to keep everybody happy.
 

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We have done this thread a couple of times in last 6 months. Search ToV and Treaty of Versailles in thread titles. Basically, you have to have either an easier treaty which Germany can learn to live with (very hard to get Entente to do this) or you have to have the existing one or harsher one that is enforced (hard to get Entente to do this). Some problems really have no good options, just menus of bad options.
 
We have done this thread a couple of times in last 6 months. Search ToV and Treaty of Versailles in thread titles. Basically, you have to have either an easier treaty which Germany can learn to live with (very hard to get Entente to do this) or you have to have the existing one or harsher one that is enforced (hard to get Entente to do this). Some problems really have no good options, just menus of bad options.

Damn. I'm not a regular peruser of After 1900, which is why this must seem annoyingly repetitive.
 
I don't know whether this has been done before but I think it might be quite interesting. Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to rewrite the Versailles Treaty preventing World War Two and doing your best to keep everybody happy.
Well, I think it was all right. Only problem was French and British should watch it was hold on. Or not betray their Eastern European Allies. If they do that there would not be WWII. Maybe something we would call now peacekeeping action in Germany. :D
 
Well, I think it was all right. Only problem was French and British should watch it was hold on. Or not betray their Eastern European Allies. If they do that there would not be WWII. Maybe something we would call now peacekeeping action in Germany. :D


Biut of course, if the will to do that exists there is no need to alter the ToV at all. It will work fine as it is.

Basically, the "Peacemakers" of 1919 were seeking a treaty which would satisfy current anger against the Hun - but wouldn't need any effort to enforce. This was of course impossible, hence all that happened between the wars.
 
Ya. Given the otl war, there isnt any way.

People have proposed two ways out 1) an early victory for one side or the other so feelings arent so worked up and you can get a saner treaty, or 2) a stalemate - peace by exhaustion, where neither side has clearly won.

I dont know any other way to do it, myself.
 
I don't know whether this has been done before but I think it might be quite interesting. Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to rewrite the Versailles Treaty preventing World War Two and doing your best to keep everybody happy.

What makes this challenge particularly hard (if not impossible) is that Versailles had very little influence on the origins of WWII. Hitler owed his success primarily to the Depression, and Versailles did not apply to the USSR at all.
 
Aknowledge Japan's claim to equality with the other imperial powers. Way less hard feelings in Japan then, so that part gets butterflied away.
 
As I understand things of the Big Three powers that did most of the organising for the treaty France was the one pushing for the most punitive options, Great Britain was somewhere in the middle, and the US was the most opposed to a harsh peace. Is there any way to modify the UK's official stance so that we end up with them siding more with the US against French demands and getting a better deal for Germany? Perhaps Wilson is made aware of the kinds of problems he's going to have getting a highly punative treaty passed by two thirds of the Senate.
 
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