A Better Rifle at Halloween

Yes I know that. I own a Lee Enfield and shoot it quite regularly. The point I was making was that American rifles only have an internal capacity of 5 rounds. unlike the SMLEs 10. I mentioned the removable nature of the SMLEs magazine merely to underline its difference from internal magazines on most other rifles.
Mausers,, including the American clone of a '95 Mauser called a Springfield, took five rounds as did the Austrio-Hungarian Mannlicher M1895. An Italian Carcano took six rounds. The 1911 Swiss Schmidt–Rubin had a 12 round detachable box magazine and later got a six round. The Lebel of WW1 had eight rounds in a tube magazine, but the French WW1 Berthier was made with both 3 and 5 round magazines. There was variation, and even modification within models during WW1. In the trenches, lots of bolt action rifles were modified to take mega magazines.
 
I'm a big fan of this TL. However I do feel a bit cheated! For a TL with "Better rifles" in the title, I was expecting the usual gun enthusiast centred debates about which is the best round, rifle, whosermawatsit. Instead the biggest POD is the analytical machine. Knowing how important modern computers have become the potential applications seam practically unlimited. From design to logistical calculations it has the potential to be a force multiplying war winner.

Although I do feel sorry for the number crunshers as the machine can do what they do, only faster. I forsee many young mathematicians finding themselves serving in the Army. Thinking on that, has the Royal Garrison Artillery had a gander at the analytical machine? It would be very useful in speeding the mathematical element of artillery work and overall improving the effectiveness of the Army's artillery, especially when firing indirectly.
 
Mausers,, including the American clone of a '95 Mauser called a Springfield, took five rounds as did the Austrio-Hungarian Mannlicher M1895. An Italian Carcano took six rounds. The 1911 Swiss Schmidt–Rubin had a 12 round detachable box magazine and later got a six round. The Lebel of WW1 had eight rounds in a tube magazine, but the French WW1 Berthier was made with both 3 and 5 round magazines. There was variation, and even modification within models during WW1. In the trenches, lots of bolt action rifles were modified to take mega magazines.
Schmidt Rubins went over to 6 rnd mags with the 1899 model. I do not think the 1911 ( many, including mine, were converted 1899s) was ever issued with a 12 rnd.
 
Mausers,, including the American clone of a '95 Mauser called a Springfield, took five rounds as did the Austrio-Hungarian Mannlicher M1895. An Italian Carcano took six rounds. The 1911 Swiss Schmidt–Rubin had a 12 round detachable box magazine and later got a six round. The Lebel of WW1 had eight rounds in a tube magazine, but the French WW1 Berthier was made with both 3 and 5 round magazines. There was variation, and even modification within models during WW1. In the trenches, lots of bolt action rifles were modified to take mega magazines.
The British Pattern 1913/1914/1917 Mauser clone also had a fixed 5 round magazine (with 6 in the 1917 as it took rimless 0.300 rounds).
(edit) and the Italian Carcano had a 6 round magazine.
 
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The British really should have gone with a rimless round and continued with the detachable magazine concept. Sadly, some idiot decided to stay with the rimmed round to make machine gun development easier, while the Treasury balked at paying for more than one magazine per rifle. As for the 'trench magazines' with 20 - 30 rounds, they only work with bolt action rifles when the rifle can be braced on a trench parapet. Turns out the Lee-Enfield 10 round magazine is about the practical limit for a hand operated bolt action rifle. If it wasn't, both sides would have adopted the trench magazine concept on a wider scale. C&Rsenal has a good video on the US Air Service rifle with 20 round magazine. In it, Mae struggles to support the weight while working the bolt. Magazines of that size really need a semi or fully auto operating system to be practical in combat. Note that Mae lowering the rifle to work the bolt is deliberate due to the age of the rifle and the need to clearly demonstrate the working of the action.

 
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The Indians had a 12 round mag on their 7.62 Nato Lee Enfield, Why they stuck with charger clips rather than issuing multiple mags at that point I have no idea.
Amazing how much space that bloody rim takes up. The US 1917 Enfield could squeeze 6 .30-06 into the same dimensions, while the P14 could only hold 5 .303
 
The Indians had a 12 round mag on their 7.62 Nato Lee Enfield, Why they stuck with charger clips rather than issuing multiple mags at that point I have no idea.
LindyBeige has a good YouTube video on mag vs clips. IIRC, the main reasons are cost and weight, although I suspect tradition and swapping webbing might have been a factor for the Indians.

I understand the Indian army do change magazines when they practice the “mad minute” - at least according to a few YouTube videos.
 
The British really should have gone with a rimless round and continued with the detachable magazine concept. Sadly, some idiot decided to stay with the rimmed round to make machine gun development easier, while the Treasury balked at paying for more than one magazine per rifle. As for the 'trench magazines' with 20 - 30 rounds, they only work with bolt action rifles when the rifle can be braced on a trench parapet. Turns out the Lee-Enfield 10 round magazine is about the practical limit for a hand operated bolt action rifle. If it wasn't, both sides would have adopted the trench magazine concept on a wider scale. C&Rsenal has a good video on the US Air Service rifle with 20 round magazine. In it, Mae struggles to support the weight while working the bolt. Magazines of that size really need a semi or fully auto operating system to be practical in combat. Note that Mae lowering the rifle to work the bolt is deliberate due to the age of the rifle and the need to clearly demonstrate the working of the action.

It is quite difficult to make a reliable removable magazine for a long bottle necked cartridge, bearing mind it needs to survive trench conditions and be sustainable across the Empire.. SMLE and No4 magazines were not guaranteed to be interchangeable, and often required fitting. A stripper clip / charger is a lot easier.
The full power turn of the century round is a heavy beast. 20 rounds of it add considerable weight. carting 20 rounds around with you on a rifle is not my idea of fun. 7.62 nato is quite a bit lighter. The Swiss G11 round, in passing is quite weighty; I have yet to weigh a loaded magazine for my Stg 57; suffice to say I am glad of the bipod.
Final point; The Lee Enfield magazine stands out as being a true double stack, so you can get 10 rnds in without too much protrusion. Most box mags are not. Double stack makes it even harder to get the mag right- see first point! That awful thing they are making poor Mae fire is definitely not, and would hang up al over the place.
 
The British Pattern 1913/1914/1917 Mauser clone also had a fixed 5 round magazine (with 6 in the 1917 as it took rimless 0.300 rounds).
(edit) and the Italian Carcano had a 6 round magazine.
Not quite a clone; it cocked on closing. Quite right, too!
 
Securing the Gap
16th September 1914, Near Mons

General Smith-Dorien was reviewing the latest reports of the attacks by the BEF, he had reason to be pleased. Both attacks had been highly successful, casualties had been high with a number of battalions taking 30-40 percent casualties, but they had achieved their objectives. The first stage of the attacks had resulted in the capture of both Ath and Sottigem, this cut off the two main railway lines which the German First Army was using for supply and aerial reconnaissance along with reports from the French at Lille indicated that the Germans were responding to the dire threat to their lines of communication and the risk of encirclement by commencing a withdrawal out of the salient.
The next phase of the attack was again to be in two parts, the first was to thicken the shoulders of the penetrations into the German lines in order to prevent their being cut off, this would be followed by further attacks to close the gap and link the BEF trapping the First Army and forcing its surrender.
The British would resume the attack at Sottigem by clearing the high ground to the south of Sottigem. The 4th Division joining V Corps would take up the attack from the 2nd London Division. The 2nd Mounted Division was available for exploitation purposes and would carry out aggressive patrolling along the northern flank of the British penetration. They would seek to prevent or at least delay any response by any elements of IIIr or IXr corps as they responded to the British attacks.
The 6th Division was still holding an extended line back towards the Belgians at Antwerp and was not in a position to conduct an attack but they had increased their night patrolling and were seeking to identify any avenues of exploitation available.
The Wessex division was holding the line back towards the coast, their flank had been somewhat open until the arrival of the Royal Marines and the decisive defeat of the German Cavalry Corps, their burden would be increased by the transfer of 4th Division to V Corps to take over the attack at Sottiegem. They would also remain fairly passive, although they had made contact with the Royal Marine Division and III Corps would be gaining control of the 1st Mounted Division and the RNAS armoured cars. Those units would be used to harry the retreating Cavalry Corps and the infantry corps which had been identified moving towards Nieuwpoort the previous day.
The 3rd Cavalry Division had been brought up to full strength, it would be available to 3rd Army as a reserve and exploitation force to either assist in closing the Sottigem Ath Gap or to react to any German counter attacks.
The British forces on the southern side of the Sottigem Ath gap would not be simply standing on the defensive but their ongoing attacks would be more limited as they sought to ensure sufficient depth to resist any German counter Attacks.

Both the French and Belgian Armies would also be taking part in the attacks, the newly formed 6th army under General Maunoury had already started to move from Lens it had advanced to Flines-lez-Raches finding it unoccupied, it had then advanced to the village of Coutiches. There the 6th Army halted whilst it reoriented, General Maunoury had been informed of the German retreat from Lille and he had agreed to conform to the British plans. To this end he would attempt to advance on Leuze-en-Hainaut, this town was astride the main road between Tournai and Ath and capturing or at least threatening it would severely disrupt any German plans to recapture Ath. The main threat to the 6th Army was the still intact German IV Corps, it was also heading for Ath as quickly as it could advance. But its commander was pushing it down the road from Orchies to Rumes, from there he would have to cross the Scheldt at either Tournai or Antoing. 6ThArmy would follow the Germans as closely as they could if only to force them to deploy rear-guard units which could be whittled down one by one. The 1st Moroccan Division of the 6th Army would be detached and sent on a forced march through the Forrest of the Scarpe. They would have further to go than the Germans and on worse roads but if they could beat the Germans to Leuze-en-Hainaut via Peruweiz they would derail any attempt to force back the British at Ath.
Manoury realised that by detaching one of the only two Regular divisions in his force he was increasing the risk that the Germans could stand and defeat his army, but he recognised that time was the Germans worst enemy, they had to try and beat back the British pincers or they would be encircled, time they spent trying to hold off his forces or even defeat them would further delay their eventual counter attack.

King Albert was also on the move with his army, for some time they had stood on the ramparts of the defences of Antwerp. Men had been called up from all but the most vital of war work to assist with the strengthening of the defences and the lines of trenches that now circled every fortification and tied them together had to be seen to be believed. The lessons of Liege and now Namur were learnt and applied and with the initial success of the British counter attacks the opportunity to worsen the position of the invader and despoiler was to be taken. The King had spent the last few days meeting with officers and men of every unit that was to take part in the attack. He had spent countless hours with his staff officers and Generals and the plan was well developed. The attack would use three infantry divisions of the Garrison along with the Cavalry Division, leaving one infantry division in reserve.
The initial attack would be by the 1st and 2nd divisions they would cross the German defensive lines between Fort de Waelhem and Fort deVarve St Catherine, they would recapture Mechelen (Malines) which would be held by the 5thDivision. The Cavalry division would then advance toward Leuvan some 25km away. The 5th Division would deploy one brigade to hold Zemst whilst the 1st and 2nd Divisions would follow the Cavalry towards Leuven.
The goal of the Belgian attack was twofold, firstly to tie down IVr and IXr corps preventing them from responding to the British attack on Sottiegem and secondly to amplify the risk in the mind of the German high command that both First and possibly Second armies were at risk of envelopment and capture. Particularly should the French Fifth Army currently embroiled in the Siege of Namur go on the offensive and break out towards Warve and Leuven.
 
Socialists of the World Unite
16th September 1914, Milwaukee.

Victor L Berger and Eugene Debs were sitting in Victor’s office at the Milwaukee Leader, they had just written in incendiary joint editorial that was to be published the following day. It called on the Socialist Party of America to recognise the IWW as being true comrades in the struggle for socialism in America. Furthermore, it called for all members of the IWW who had been expelled from the Socialist Party of America to be readmitted into the party. The Western Federation of Miners whose conflict with the IWW had precipitated the murder of the Butte Martyrs were also encouraged to reaffiliate.
The pair finished their piece with the following paragraph

The actions of the Montana National Guard in murdering our comrades in the socialist struggle for a fair America shows the brutality with which the bosses will subjugate any who dare oppose them. The savage suppression of workers in New York, Chicago and even here in Milwaukee, protesting these acts of depravity has exposed the cruelty of a system that differs only in name from the blood-soaked autocratic regimes of Europe. They glory in sending tens of thousands of their young men to an early grave for the sake of pride and position, led to death with marching bands and bunting. We have had our disagreements with the Industrial Workers of the World, but with the naked evil of the plutocrats exposed we must again join with the IWW and fight for true socialism in America. Let no tool available to us be unused in this fight for it can only end in victory or unending subjugation, remember as surely as our enemy does “we are many and they are few”
 
I mean the Entente, I am, sadly, unable to comment on USA work struggles
Well we shall all just have to see how things go. But the Entente is having a better war thus far. I want to write on beyond 1914-1918 with this story which is why it might appear to be a bit all over the place.
 
Think of the round as being ballistically similar to the .276 enfield but slightly shorter and with a slightly wider base diameter to improve extraction.
 
Percy ponders
17th September 1914.

Percy Ludgate was standing in his new office in Dublin, he had had a very good war so far. His company set up with thanks to an immediate cash grant of 10,000 pounds, from the exchequer was growing well. He had a staff seconded from both the War Office and the Admiralty as well as a new technical director hired from Barr and Stroud and a Managing Director who had worked previously at Vickers.

The new company was a mixture of people from all over Britain but they all recognised the importance of the work they were doing. Orders were flowing into the company from both the government and industry, Beardmores the aircraft engine company had placed an order for two more devices by mail this morning. The biggest challenge was going to be keeping up with demand. Fortunately the irish linen industry was proving to be a very useful source of people who understood complex machinery.

Already his first design was being manufactured, whilst work was ongoing on a new model that would simplify both manufacturing and operations, this 2nd generation machine was expected to be ready for volume production in 6 months. The Mathematics Department at Trinity College had received two of the first machines built and they were busy developing new uses for them. Machines would also be sent to every university within Britain and then the Empire.

One area of particular interest to Percy was how electric switches could be used to replace some of the mechanics components of the device, this would reduce cost and complexity whilst allowing for improved speed of operation.
 
Your smashing out the work today, many thanks, my favourite timeline on the the site.
Thanks, I am only really able to write some of the time. Which is why there are big gaps I work in a fly in fly out industry so I don’t write much when I am at home. I tend to write in the evenings after work. I have a bit more I may get posted today for the gun nuts.
 
Hill and the problem of erosion
17 September 1914,

Harry Brearly, head of the Brown Firth Research Laboratories was meeting with Arthur Hill, Hill had been seeking his assistance for improved alloys for the manufacture of the FH rifle. One of the major problems was the severe erosion experienced by the rifle under prolonged rapid fire. This problem was not seen until at least 150 rounds had been fired nearly continuously, which was seen as being unlikely under most combat situations as by this stage the soldier in question would have likely run out of ammunition, but it was a problem for the new heavy support rifle that Hill was working on.

Part of the solution was to fit a heavier barrel, that barrel was also to have fins machined into it both to increase stiffness but also to allow for better heat dispersion. The ammunition already developed for the initial FH rifles also helped a slower burning propellant reduced chamber pressure and temperature. But even with these improvements barrel life was shorter than desirable. Hill was looking at some way of quickly changing the barrel when it got hot but that brought a whole new set of design challenges.
Brearly had proposed two solutions to the bore erosion issue, the first was a new material invented in the United states and licensed in the UK called Stellite. This was a hard cobalt alloy which could be used as a barrel lining material. The second was an alloy developed by the Brown-Firth Laboratories which Brearly called rustless steel. Brearly was hopeful that the highly innovative Farquhar-Hill Company would select one of these two materials for their rifles as his approaches to the Vickers and the Royal Arsenal had been rebuffed.
Brearly explained the metallurgy of both materials to Hill and how they might improve bore, throat and gas port erosion in his new rifles. They also discussed the challenges of machining such hard materials.
Hill agreed to take samples of both materials for testing and Brearly was happy to supply suitable quantities as well as an engineer and a pair of master machinists who had experience in working with it.
 
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