A 21st Century Future:a space,technology,political,and cultural TL

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  1. Threadmarks: Some stuff that will come up in 1986

    LordandsaviorKloka AH.com’s resident Arthur McGregor apologist

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    Expect the Challenger post soon
     
  2. LordandsaviorKloka AH.com’s resident Arthur McGregor apologist

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    Just to let you know,I’m not dead. I just got over a bout of writer’s block and there will be a few posts in the near future.
     
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    Figured that, hate it when that happens. Reply to the conversation we were having via PM when you can.
     
  4. Threadmarks: Quick chronology of space missions in the second half of 1985

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    June 6-September 26,1985
    Soyuz T-13 (Dzhanibekov,Savinykh). Repair mission to Salyut 7. Crew performed an EVA to assist in station repair,and received two Progress resupply ships,including the curiously designated Cosmos 1669.

    June 17-24,1985
    STS-51G (Brandenstein,Creighton,Fabian,Nagel,Lucid,Chretien,Al-Saud). First Saudi in space:first royalty in space. Featured the deployment of three communications satellites. First use of the Spartan free flyer.

    July 29-August 6,1985
    STS-51F (Fullerton,Bridges,Henize,Musgrave,England,Simon,Prinz). First launch “abort” in Shuttle history. Spacelab 2 payload:first use of Spacelab pallet.

    August 27-September 3,1985
    STS-51I (Engle,Covey,van Hoften,Fisher,Lounge). Repaired the Leasat 3 satellite,and deployed the Leasat 4 satellite.

    September 17,1985-January 24,1986
    Soyuz T-14 (Vasyutin,Volkov,Grechko). Grechko returned to Earth with Dzhanibekov. Received the Cosmos 1686 research module on October 2,1985. Crew performed three EVAs.

    October 3-7,1985
    STS-51J (Bobko,Grabe,Hilmers,Stewart,Pailes). First flight of the space shuttle Atlantis. Deployed the first DSCS 3 military communications satellites.

    October 30-November 6,1985
    STS-61A (Hartsfield,Nagel,Dunbar,McCandless,Bluford,Furrer,Messerschmid,Ockels). First spaceflight with eight people onboard. Crew conducted an international research program.

    November 27-December 8,1985
    STS-61B (Shaw,O’Connor,Ross,Cleave,Spring,Walker,Neri Vela). Ross and Spring performed two EVAs,during which they assembled and operated the EASE-ACCESS space construction experiment. Neri Vela was the first Mexican in space. Three communications satellites were deployed.

    January 12-18,1986
    STS-61C (Gibson,Bolden,Nelson,Hawley,Chang-Diaz,Nelson,Cenker). Bill Nelson became the first sitting politician in space. Cenker supervised the deployment of a communications satellite for RCA.


    So yeah,mostly OTL. Anyone who can spot the 5 differences from OTL will get my undying respect. Also,I’m using the classic font from here on out.



     
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  5. Threadmarks: Movies of 1986 part 1/2:The Black Cauldron and Space Camp

    LordandsaviorKloka AH.com’s resident Arthur McGregor apologist

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    The Black Cauldron was an intellectual property that was close to the hearts of Disney’s animation team. Since Walt Disney’s death in 1966 (and before as well),the studio’s animated film repertoire had withered,from an average of one per 9 months in 1950 to one per 38 months by 1980. Although The Fox and the Hound,which came out on July 10,1981,revived the genre somewhat,it was to be hoped that The Black Cauldron would continue that trend.

    Cauldron and its two sequels,Taran Wanderer (1989) and The High King (1994),both live action films produced by Disney,are based upon the Chronicles of Prydain,a pentalogy of young adult fantasy novels written by Lloyd Alexander between 1964 and 1968. The books concern the rise of Taran,a boy living in the mystical kingdom of Prydain in the distant past,from Assistant Pig-Keeper at Caer Dallben to High King of all Prydain, as well as the war between the noble Sons of Don and Arawn Death-Lord,a demonic king who possesses the magical sword Dyrnwyn.

    Disney bought the film rights to the Prydain series in 1971,but film tech improvement and financial issues delayed the start of production to 1979. Casting happened in 1983,and the film featured a star voice cast for its time:

    Grant Bardsley as Taran
    Susan Sheridan as Princess Eilonwy of Mona
    Peter Woodthorpe as Gurgi,a half-dwarf (1) who aids Taran on his quest to destroy the Cauldron and its possessor,the Horned King
    Alec Guinness as the Horned King
    John Travolta as Glew,a friendly giant who has travelled through all of Prydain
    Brian May as Eiddileg XVI,king of the Dwarves
    Scott Glenn as Doli,a Dwarven watcher
    John Hurt as Dallben,the master of Caer Dallben and Taran’s adopted father
    Phil Brown as Fflewdur Fflam,the bard king of Spiral Castle (2)

    The film came out on January 14,1986,to much critical acclaim. Lloyd Alexander himself stated “Although this film wasn’t necessarily my story,it was a good story in and of itself.”

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    Another film from this era worth examining is Space Camp,which came out on October 10,1986. Space Camp is a space adventure film inspired by the real US Space Camp in Huntsville,Alabama. There was some controversy over its release in the wake of the Challenger disaster,which delayed said release.

    The plot centers around four teenagers who are attending a new Space Camp at Kennedy Space Center in Florida,and their adventures after they and their astronaut instructor are accidentally launched into orbit on the experimental space shuttle Pegasus. One of the film’s highlights is the avant-garde score by veteran film composer John Williams. The cast included:

    Kate Capshaw as Andie Wickman,the first woman to walk on the Moon,now an astronaut instructor at Space Camp
    Lane Smith as Zach Bergstrom,her mentor in the astronaut corps
    Tate Donovan as Kevin Donaldson,a rich kid whose dad is designing a space reconnaissance system for the Navy
    Lea Thompson as Kathy Farley,who idolizes Andie and wants to be the first female shuttle commander
    Larry Scott as Rudy Tyler,who loves science, but admits he is sometimes not very good at it.
    Julie Brown as Tricia Ambrose,a Valley Girl whose stereotypical appearance belies a smart personality and desire to someday go to Mars
    Joaquin Phoenix as Max Bergstrom,Zach’s grandson who tags along with the rest of the team
    Mark Hamill as Gennady Markovik,a Soviet cosmonaut whose wayward lunar capsule is rescued by the crew of the Pegasus

    1-we never actually learn just what Gurgi is,so Disney makes up the idea of him being half dwarf

    2-a combination of Fflewdur and Gwydion,a books-only character ​
     
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  6. historybuff Well-Known Member

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    Nice take on that movie, great casting as well. I'll wait for another update.
     
  7. Seandineen Member

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    Sir Alec actually did another space epic despite his resentment of Star Wars overshadowing everything else.
     
  8. LordandsaviorKloka AH.com’s resident Arthur McGregor apologist

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    Which film was this?
     
  9. Seandineen Member

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    I was just surprised pleasantly since in our world he didn’t. I was pleased to see you have that idea.
     
  10. knightdepaix Well-Known Member

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    A semi-independent governance on planet Mars?
     
  11. LordandsaviorKloka AH.com’s resident Arthur McGregor apologist

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    Probably not, as this TL will end in the early 2040s.
     
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