500-1043 ATL,my first ATL

To be honest I really don't think the Maya were in a position to colonize Central Mexico. At all. Central Mexico wasn't a wasteland, there were probably almost as many people there as there were in the Yucatan. At this time the Zapotecs are still there, and Teotihuacan, which was a powerful empire that had great weight in Maya politics, was still around at the start of the 700's I think.
 
865-879 AD:
*Fujiwara no Yoshifusa becomes regent of Japan, starting the Fujiwara regentship.
*The third Gothian-Aryan war ends in Gothian victory (again).Gothia recive the holy land and establsih the province of Judea (Yerushalayim).
*Harold the fair hair becomes the first king of Norway.
*emperor tukiric forbids the use of tortue in the investigation of alleged witches.
*Patriarch Photius I of Constantinople is removed from office and banished.The title is bestowed upon Tukiric.
*Libusegrad's castle is built.
*The great summer fleet as it was called since the 10th century arrive in OTL Iceland,drop colonists and claim the Islands as a new province,Gothvik (Ragnarvik).
*Malta is conquered by the Aryan Peoples republic.
*Tukiric assumes the role of patriarch of Alexandria.
*The city of Barium is destroyed in an immense fire.
*The city of Tonsberg is founded in Jutland Magna (The Norwegiam enclave).
*After the fire,Barium is rebuilt as the new capital city of Italia with a great governor's placae,parks,museums and several gothic towers.A new Aryan and Jewish quarters are also buildt on a grand scale.
*The capital of Brittania moves from Eboracum to Venta Belgarum.
*Gothia conquers several Slavic tribes and creates the province of Moravia (Hirzograd) (Actually in OTL Poland).
*Gascony became a separate province (Burdigala).
*Sicily moves from the jurisdiction of the province of Itlia to the jurisdiction of the province of Africa.The first act of the African provincial authorities in Carthage was to confirm Syracuse as the district of Sicily's capital.

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To be honest I really don't think the Maya were in a position to colonize Central Mexico. At all. Central Mexico wasn't a wasteland, there were probably almost as many people there as there were in the Yucatan. At this time the Zapotecs are still there, and Teotihuacan, which was a powerful empire that had great weight in Maya politics, was still around at the start of the 700's I think.

Well,this is a century and a half after the 700s.Tha maya probably culturaly assimilated nearby tribes like the early Aztecs and Incans dide.
 
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880-894 AD:
*The Viking lay siege to Lutetia but are defeated by the XXIV Legion and the II unit of knights.Gothia and Norway signs an alliance of enduring friendship (In reality making Norway a vassal state of Gothia.To ensure Norway would not expand past it's current borders and also to subside viking attacks the Gothians takes over the strip of land between the area north of Norway to OTL Scania.They annex most of the newly acquired lands to the province of Jutland Magna and turn the rest into the territory of Northern Norway (Tukigard).
*The city of Baku is founded.
*The Aryan Peoples republic invades and annex the kingdom of Nubia ending three and a half centuries of independence.

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And so a originally germanic barbarian people is going to be more great of the Romans :D

Yep,i can clearly see them dominating Scandinavia and eastern Europe by 1043.The motto of this period in the ATL should be ''Where no Roman had ever arrived''.
 
895-909 AD:
*Gothia allwos the Magyar to settle in the province of Moravia and be independent there in return for millitary sevice in the Gothian army and a yearly tribute.
*Jutes begin to immigrate into Brittania.
*composition of the Musica enchiriadis, the beginnings of western polyphonic music.
*Regino of Prüm is expelled from Prüm and becomes abbot of St. Martin's in Trier.
*A rebellion in Reggio Emilia is crushed with the help of Magyar soldiers.Thuse soldiers are then allowed to settle in the city.
*The fourth Gothian-Aryan war starts with the sack of Thessalonica.The Gothians wins the war and capture the Aryan mediterrenean coast creating the provinces of Syria (Antioch) and Aegyptus (Thebes).
*Tyhe Aryans expands in Arabia and central Asia.
*Wei soldiers takes over Taiwan.

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910-924 AD:
*Construction begins on the first church at the monastery of Cluny.
*Gothia colonise the strip of land between the provinces of Aegyptus anf Africa and annext the area to the province of Africa.
*By this point of time,Gothia controll almost the entire area of the mediterrenean sea.
*Emperor Tukiric dies,emperor Eclectusric is named as his successor.
*Emperor Eclectusric assumes the titleof pope of the Coptic orthodox church.
*A failed Nomadic incursion into Africa and Egypt leads Gothia to expand their borders toward the Sahara,creating the provinces of Sahara (Berberum Honororum) and Mauritania (Aghlabidgard).
*San Miguel de Escalada is built in Legio (OTL Leon), Hibero-Galia by governor Garcianum.
*The town of Warwick, Britannia is founded on the River Avon.
*The town of Waterford,Hybernia is founded by Jute immigrants.
*Large scale Jute immigration into Hybernia between 914-1045.
*Adrianople is expanded and recive many Magyar and Cillician immigrants as well as Goths from Italia.
*Nanjing is reconstructed after a long desertion, marking the beginning of contemporary Nanjing City.
*Aryan expansion into Arbia continues.
*Japan expands into northen Hokaido.
*Wei China expands in Manchruia and creates the province of Khitan.
*The city of Mahdia is founded in Africa.
*The city of Achiaus,Italia (Modern day Pomoroe,Bulgaria) start to recive huge numbers of Magyars.
*The city of Shangjing is founded to serve as the cpaital city of the province of Khitan.
*The capital of Japanese Korea moves to Songdo (OTL Kaesong,North Korea).
*Following his death, Mara Takla Haymanot is succeeded by Tatadim as the Governor of Axum.
*The Pueblo Bonito is built by the Anasazi in present day New Mexico's Chaco Canyon.
*Mayan ships accidentally discovers Jamaica.A trade post is founded in order to trade with the local Caribs.
*The Icelandic volcano Katla erupts.
*The Timboktu empire is founded.
*The city of Dynefwr (OTL Llandeilo,Wales) becomes the capital of the district of Deheubarth in Britannia.
*After several anti Bulgar riots in Ctesiphon,the Volga Bulgars are pacified and incorporated into the Aryan People's republic.
*Topiltzin Ce Acatl Quetzalcoatl becomes ruler of the Toltecs.
*Wei soldiers conquers Turkestan and reestablish the province of Hepthalite.Relations with the Aryan Peopl'es republics are strained as a result.

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And so we are arriving to the last century... Gothia will survive till 1043 or will be crashed worse than the Romans? :D
 
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925-939 AD:
*Ha-Mim proclaims himself a prophet among the Ghomara.
*Trade relation are booming between the various provinces of the Wei dynasty.
*The Wei-Aryan war: Aryan armies invades Hepthalite provinnce in order to force the Wei to renounce it's control of former Turkestan.They are slowed down byt the harsh climate of the gobi andthe mountainous terrain.
*The city of Changsha in the province of China Proper begin to expand rapidly.
*Several clashed between Wei and Japanese soldiers near Daegu in Japanese Korea.
*In a meeting at Daegu,Korea,the emperors of Wei China and Japan agree to cease hostillities and to cooperate against the Aryan republic.
*The Picts are Given a seat in the parlamient of Britannia for the first time since 575.
*The Aryan navy destroys Tarantum.Gothian emperor Eclactusric responds by conquering eastern Anatolia and annex it to the province of Achea.The borders of Achea in Europe are modified in order to include the Greek population of the province of Italia.
*The capital of the province of Hibero-Glia moves from Toldanum to Kart-Juba (OTL Cordoba).
*Emperor Suzaku ascends to the throne of Japan.
*The independent Korean island state of Usanguk becomes a protectorate of Wei.
*Norway successfully petitions to join Gothia as the province of Noreg (Bremen).
*The province of outer Norway is annexed to the province of Norge.
*The Aryan People's republic settles the Commoros.

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940-954 AD:
*Saadia Gaon compiles his siddur (Jewish prayer book) in Mesopotamia.
*Narita-san Temple is founded in Chiba, Japan.
*The Wei governor of Khitan abolishes the requirement that a younger sister replace an older sister who died in marriage.
*Beginning of construction of the main forts in Greater Poland: Giecz, Bnin, Lad, Gniezno, Poznan, Grzybowo. All the forts were constructed rapidly between 939 and 942.
*Kaminarimon, the eight-pillared gate to Japan's Kinryuzan Sensouji Temple, is erected.
*The Gupta empire convert the small kingdom to it's east to Budhism and annex it.
*The district of Wales is created in the province of Britannia.
*The Aryan expedition to the Rusmanages to capture large swaths of lands from the Rus.Novgorod is alarmed by this development and rise an army from the frear of being next as it is the strongest and only organised Rus state.
*Icosium (OTL Algiers) experience a rapid period of growth and becomes the second largest city in the pprovince of Africa,second only to the cpaital of Carthage.
*The great temple of Arya is built in Samarra,Mesopotamia.
*The third Aryan-Gothian war breaks out after due to a border dispute in Syria.The Aryans wins the war and takes the Gothian province of Syria.
*Great storm sweeps England. Many houses destroyed, 1500 in Londinium alone (a significant proportion of the town).
*Saint Dunstan becomes the abbot at Glestingaburg (OTL Glastonbury).
*World population is estimated to be 250 million.
*The Tu'i Tonga Empire begins to form in the Pacific Ocean.

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955-969 AD:
*After pressures from the Magyar diaspora in Gothia and a referendum in Moravia,Moravia is reannexed by Gothia.
*Huge riots between Magyars and Goths in Moravia.1000 Magyars are killed in the main cities of the province while 1500 Goths are killed by Magyar rioters in the countryside and more than 2000 people were killed by local police forces during the emergency state which was declared by the governor.All in all 4500 people were killed out of the 17,000 inhabitants of the province.
*Race riots also erupts in Bordulanum between Languadocians and Goths.3000 people were killed out of the 8000 inhabitants of the city.
*Eadwig becomes the governor of Brittania.
*Japan: The Tenryaku Era ends, and the Tentoku Era begins.
*King Olga of the Slavs conert to Christianity and petition to join Gothia.His petition is accepted and his kingdom became the province of Slava (Iasi).
*Dunstan becomes bishop of Worchester and Londinium.
*Bruno becomes the archibishop of Cologne.
*Dunstan becomes Archbishop of Durovernum Cantiacorum and Edgar's chief adviser. He reforms monasteries and enforces the rule of Saint Benedict: Poverty, Chastity and Obedience for monks. He attempts to impose celibacy on the secular clergy without noticeable success. Dunstan actively encourages the Danes to integrate with the English.
*Mieszko becomes governor of Moravia.
*St Dunstan's, Mayfield is founded.
*Race riots between Danes,Magyars and Goths in Lutetia.
*Wei troops finally route the Aryans from Hepthalite.
*After another ride,this time on Kyiv,Aryan troops annex the entire area between their's and Novgorod's borders.This adds to Novgorodians's fears and a general drift is declared through the republic.
*A huge rebellion ousts the empror out and install his newfew instead.In order to safeguard his family,he establish indepndent kingdom in his provinces under his family member's leadership to ensure that his family would survive in case one or more of the kingdoms would be conquered or his dynasty would be removed by a coup.
*The number of soldiers that remained in China is estimated to e 378,000.
*Ani becomes the Capital of Armenia in the Aryan People's republic.
*The Huqiu Tower is built in China (often called the Chinese Leaning Tower of Pisa).
*Race rioys ibn Crete between Greeks and Aryans/Jews/Arabs.Around 200 peoples are killed.
*The town of Fitje in Norge is destroyed after massive rebellion against Norgean authorities breaks in the area.
*St Paul's Cathedral in Londinium is destroyed by fire.
*After a Novgorodian surprise attack on Sarkel.Aryan forces conquers the republic of Novgorod.

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the Wei finally crashed....:eek:

Time to the Japanese to strike, there is not much time left.:D

I guess in the final period we can see the final clash between Gothia and Aryan, which wank will win? :confused:
 
the Wei finally crashed....:eek:

Time to the Japanese to strike, there is not much time left.:D

I guess in the final period we can see the final clash between Gothia and Aryan, which wank will win? :confused:
Well,all i can tell is that after that clash one empire will be dissolved completely while the other will be so weak that i would doubt if it would survive the period between 1044 to 1099.
 
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970-984 AD:
*A major volcano erupts in Mahu,Japan.
*A huge famine begins in the provinces of Hibero-Galia,Armorica and Languadoc that will last for a decade.Huge riots erupts as a result of the famine.
*The Town of Flavia Solva (OTL Leibnitz,Austria) in Germania is destroyed by police forces and local legions after huge riots erupts between Germanics and Magyars in the town.
*Eric the Victorious forms ythe kingdom of Sweden.
*The sixth (and final) Gothian-Aryan war (970-1043) erupts after a huge Aryan army invades Judea,Cillicia,Aegyptus and Achaea and besiege Constantinople.
*Meanwhile in China,the fears of the emperor is realized when his closest general,Zaho Kuangyin,overthrow him and becomes emperor Taizu of Song.This was the birth of the Song dynasty in China.The deposed emperor flees to his brother's court at the kingdon of Khitan.
*An Aryan attack on Doristolon (OTL Sillistra,Bulgaria) fails.emepror Eclactusric retaliates by capturing Crimea and adjacent areas.
*China completes the Budhist canon.
*The Gothians annex what remained of the rus and creates the province of Slavia.
*Border clashes in Slavia.

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Why not? There weren't enough changes in the Arabian peninsula to butterfly him away.However,the Axumite had his father killed along with the entire inhabitants of Mecca in 570.
Oh, because it's almost impossible. Say your PoD is.... yesterday. Even if you reran everything, the odds of the same sperm and egg meeting and the genes being expressed exactly the same way, are very small. In this particular case you have several (2?) generations before Muhammad is born. You not only have to have grandparents born, but they have to meet and have offspring that are exactly the same as OTL, who had to meet and have offspring exactly like OTL. What are the odds that someone is killed by disease? Or on a raid? Etc. etc. Yes we all do some of it--the only way you could really model that is to use lots of computing power we don't have, but to have someone born that far after the PoD is stretching things. You can say "yeah, but for it to happen in our own history is equally improbable" and you're right. But that's why it's even less likely for it to happen twice so to speak.

Look you've gone beyond that point. I'm not trying to get you to change anything, but you said this is your first real alternate timeline. It's fluffy, that's fine. Not all TLs are super-rigorous but I don't want you to get a mistaken understanding about how this works.
 
Oh, because it's almost impossible. Say your PoD is.... yesterday. Even if you reran everything, the odds of the same sperm and egg meeting and the genes being expressed exactly the same way, are very small. In this particular case you have several (2?) generations before Muhammad is born. You not only have to have grandparents born, but they have to meet and have offspring that are exactly the same as OTL, who had to meet and have offspring exactly like OTL. What are the odds that someone is killed by disease? Or on a raid? Etc. etc. Yes we all do some of it--the only way you could really model that is to use lots of computing power we don't have, but to have someone born that far after the PoD is stretching things. You can say "yeah, but for it to happen in our own history is equally improbable" and you're right. But that's why it's even less likely for it to happen twice so to speak.

Look you've gone beyond that point. I'm not trying to get you to change anything, but you said this is your first real alternate timeline. It's fluffy, that's fine. Not all TLs are super-rigorous but I don't want you to get a mistaken understanding about how this works.
Oh,Okay.Anyway even if he was bron he got killed inthe Aksumite ride on Mecca almost 400 years before the current era of the TL.
 
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