5 Most Vicious Civilizations

Which civilization was the most vicious?

  • Islamic Empire

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • Mongonl Empire

    Votes: 46 19.8%
  • Mexica (a.k.a. the Aztec Empire)

    Votes: 21 9.1%
  • Third Reich

    Votes: 100 43.1%
  • Imperial Japan

    Votes: 25 10.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 26 11.2%

  • Total voters
    232
Sadly their are alot of people and nations on this list. A few more...

Assyria
Babylon
New Kingdom Egypt
Rome
Huns
Mideon
Sodomites

Its sad really I think that humanity behaves in this manner. I think its hard to morally compare them. I mean the Huns and Chinese used to pull victims apart with horses, the Kurdgen used to feed kids to wild dogs for sport, and the Romans crucified people ffs. Now is one type of murder worse then the other? I dont know. I guess all we can do is acknoladge all the cruelty, work for a better world, and leave judgement in Gods hands.
 
Seeing as you failed to read the entirety of my posts, I said Sand Creek was just one example. Want more? Wounded Knee creek, Bear River, and the Marias Massacre were all just against the western tribes. And then there's the Philippines if you want more. And your claim of Aztecs massacring millions? Source please.

As I've already said, (I'm getting tired of repeating myself) the Mexica had rituals involving sacrifices once a month. A lot of these sacrifices were not even that of people but of idols, food, etc. The rituals that did involve human sacrifice did not have a great number at a time. The exception was the sacrifice following a successful Flower War. The sacrifice victim was always a warrior from one of the other Nahua (aztec) nations who were usually quite willing to die this was seeing as they'd have died on the battlefield if they weren't captured. The largest single sacrifice was said by some Aztecs to be 80,000 people, but this means they were killing people faster than the guys at Auschwitz. Unless you're the most extremely biased or naive person, you have to know this is just dumb. The Aztecs exaggerated the number to look tougher. Other Mexico said it was 4000, still high and shocking, but that places your idea of millions dead at serious doubt.

I never said the Mexica were better than the US, I am merely saying the Americans are not saints compared to them nor are the Aztecs close to being as bad as Nazis or even the Japanese of the time.

I agree, but I think that ancient peoples did their thing because they had their own cosmogony, religions and their own ways to see the world; advancing from that to what we are today has always been a long and complex process.... But more modern cultures and peoples, even with their knowledge and philosophies, have other reasons to do what they do. I personally feel that we have less excuses for our atrocities...

If you want to judge "atrocities" in the context of ancient cultures, try to judge them from their own context and not our own, otherwise you'll only get a prejudice about them, something contrary to what we call knowledge.
 
Psh. Compared with the five on the list, Americans look like saints.
You cannot seriously rationalize that the British or Americans were worse than any of them. Just because you don't like us doesn't make us evil.

We can say that many people from different civilizations have repeatedly done REALLY bad things, but you can't say that a civilization as a whole is or was vicious just because of that. Sometimes it's just individuals (who sometimes happen to be leaders) who do their "evil stuff", or sometimes people have beliefs that are harsh and go too far for human dignity, but we are also talking about the human beings that composed these cultures and civilizations. We talk about people who had to live, who fell in love, who suffered and were happy, who wanted to raise their children and prepare them to the world, who got old and wise about life, etc... but in the end, their acts came from their human condition. Human beings have always wanted to comprehend the world sorrounding them, and deal with their emotions and their needs at the same time, so you can't always blame civilizations for the paths they took in order to find their answers. We are here because civilizations change and progress, and now we know what's wrong and how we can improve. The bad thing we do today is making the same mistakes over and over again even when we know it's wrong... and one these mistakes is judging without knowledge.
 
If you want to judge "atrocities" in the context of ancient cultures, try to judge them from their own context and not our own, otherwise you'll only get a prejudice about them, something contrary to what we call knowledge.
I totally agree. Objectively viewing other cultures in general is bad, doing the same with ancient cultures is just silly. Nazi Germany is the worst because even by early 20th Century European standards what they were doing was hideously wrong. Over 6 million dead due to one man's insanity, 50 million more to the war he started. Hell, I wouldn't doubt even Cortez would be horrified by Hitler if he was sent forward in time.
 
...and then they fall. but humanity still advances, unless we become too brutal and end destroying everything. but we'll change. I just hope.

Neanderthals were just as intelligent as we were. They went extinct. We'll leave successor species, because killing off I think it's now 6.7 billion large mammals is a might bit more difficult than it first appears. So, the genus Homo will continue to evolve.

I totally agree. Objectively viewing other cultures in general is bad, doing the same with ancient cultures is just silly. Nazi Germany is the worst because even by early 20th Century European standards what they were doing was hideously wrong. Over 6 million dead due to one man's insanity, 50 million more to the war he started. Hell, I wouldn't doubt even Cortez would be horrified by Hitler if he was sent forward in time.

Stalin and Mao both killed more over a larger area, and Pol Pot was the worst butcher of the 20th Century. Then there's Zhang Zhianzhong of China who reduced a city of 400,000 to 20.....:eek:
 
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