2nd Chrononauts thread

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  1. Hulkster'01 alternatehistory.com's number 1 Hulkamaniac

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    I got the first one locked so here's a second one.


    1850: Zachary Taylor dies of a stomach flu; Vice President Fillmore succeeds him
    1850': Zachary Taylor loses his apatite; still shows at fund raiser

    1852: President Fillmore loses nomination to Winfield Scott
    Paradox if 1850'. Patch: President Taylor is renominated

    1861: Virginia succeedes from the Union; Robert E. Lee refuses to fight for the US
    1861': Virginia stays in the Union; E. Lee fights for the US

    1862: Robert E. Lee takes command over the army of west Virginia
    Paradox if 1861'. Patch: GW Smith takes over from Joseph Johnson after Battle of Seven Pines

    1901: President William McKinley is assassinated; World's fair turned into world's nightmare
    1901': President McKinley nearly assassinated; "He's as strong as a bullmoose!" says VP Roosevelt

    1912: Former President Theodore Roosevelt runs for third term as Progressive nominee; Wilson elected president
    Paradox if 1901'. Patch: President Roosevelt controversially secures a third term against Democratic candidate Woodrow Wilson

    1918: League of Nations established by Allies after WW1
    Paradox if 1901'. Patch: Germany given softer punishment after starting a world war.

    Ok here's some none political ones...

    1963: Beatlemania kicks off after landing at Kennedy Airport
    1963': British band's plane crashes killing all on board; along with the British "invasion".

    1965: Elvis meets The Beatles; The King and Fab Four hit it off
    Paradox if 1963': Patch: Elvis meets with The Beach Boys

    1983: Gaming crash; Atari's lack of quality control to blame
    1983': Atari allows more development time for ET

    1985: Nintendo revives gaming industry with NES and Super Mario Bros.
    Paradox if 1983': Patch: Nintendo agrees to give Atari rights to distribute the famicom in the US.

    1997: Vince McMahon fails to re negotiate contract with Bret Hart; Bret screwed Bret
    1997' McMahon succeeds in re negotiating contract with WWF Champ; Hitman defeats rival in home country
     
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    Is this a fresh start, or do you want to pull in events from Chrononauts: the AH.com version? Do you want to set bookends for the earliest year and latest year allowed?
     
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    Fresh start
     
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    2001: WWF wins Monday Night Wars, WWF buys WCW
    Paradox if 1997': Patch: WCW wins Monday Night wars. WCW buys WWF and renames itself WWE.

    1996: Boeing Buys McDonnell Douglas
    1996': McDonnell Douglas Buys Boeing.

    2009: Boeing 787 makes first flight/
    Paradox if 1996'(patch: Douglas MD-12 makes first flight)
     
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    2002: Brazil wins World Cup.
    2002': South Korea pulls a miracle run, winning world cup
     
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    1994: Sony launches playstation.
    Paradox if 1983': Patch: Sony and Atari strike a deal, releases Atari Jaguar-CD.
     
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    1980: John Lennon Assassinated.
    Paradox if 1963': Patch: Elvis Presley Assassinated.
     
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    Chrononauts: US Presidents edition
    1787
    : George Washington agrees to become President of the US
    1787’: General Washington refuses to become president; suggests Alexander Hamilton.

    1789: Former general Washington is elected president; Federalist John Adams made VP

    Paradox if 1787’. Patch: Alexander Hamilton is elected president; fellow Federalist John Jay made VP

    1796: Vice President John Adams wins 1792 election; Democratic-Republican Thomas Jefferson made VP
    Paradox if 1787’. Patch: Democratic-Republican Thomas Jefferson is elected president. Arron Burr made VP following controversy

    1814: James Madison nearly avoids dying in burning of Washington
    1814’: James Madison parishes in the burning of Washington; General Henry Dearborn made President

    1824: John Quincy Adams controversially made President; fmr General Jackson calls corrupt barrgin

    Paradox if 1787’. Patch: Andrew Jackson wins the 1824 election; everyone happy

    1835: President Jackson nearly assassinated at funeral; two funerals nearly held on one day
    1835’: President Jackson assassinated; two funerals held on same day

    1840: William Henry Harrison defeats Vice President Van Buren; dies on Inauguration Day

    Paradox if 1835’. Patch: Vice President Burn defeats War hero Henry Harrison; lives past inauguration

    1865: President Lincoln assassinated at fords theater; theater event marred by assassination
    Paradox if 1835’. Patch: Lincoln’s bodyguards nap deranged actor John Wilkes Booth; Reconstruction goes steadily

    1881: James Garfield assassinated; doctors fail to wash hands
    1881’: President’s bodyguard dies defending President from madman, doctors shunned for dirty hands

    1884: President Arthur chooses not to run for second term; Cleveland wins first

    Paradox if 1881’. Patch: President Garfield nearly loses election to Cleveland; wins second term by 3 votes

    1888: Benjamin Harrison defeats Gover Cleveland; President vows to run again
    Paradox if 1881’. Patch: Gover Cleveland finally wins presidency; VP Arthur shrugs

    1892: Former President Cleveland defeats President Harrison; Populist James B. Weaver blamed by Republicans
    Paradox if 1881’. Patch: President Cleveland defeats Populist James B. Weaver; Republican Whitelaw Reid blamed by Populists

    1908: Theodore Roosevelt declines a third term; will bite him in the butt in 1912
    1908’: President Roosevelt creates controversy by running for and winning a third term; Amendment made to prevent this

    1933: President elect Roosevelt nearly killed; Al Capone to thank

    1933’: President elect Roosevelt assassinated; Hoover to blame

    1941: President Franklin D. Roosevelt wins a third term

    Paradox if 1908’ and/or 1933’. Patch: Windell Willkie wins first term

    1963: President Kennedy assassinated in Dallas; Johnson made president
    1963’: President Kennedy nearly assassinated in Dallas; Johnson resigns from the Vice Presidency

    1968: RFK and MLK assassinated

    Paradox if 1963’. Patch: RFK wins Presidency; MLK wins worker’s strike

    1973: President Nixon resigns; claims not a crook
    Paradox if 1963’. Patch: RFK goes all the way with war on poverty

    1996: Bill Clinton nearly assassinated by Osama Bin Laden; luckily motorcade was rerouted
    1996’ Bill Clinton explodes; Osama Bin Laden claims responsibility

    2000: Florida votes Red; Bush made President

    Paradox if 1996’. Patch: Florida votes blue; President Gore retains presidency

    2005: President Bush nearly killed by grenade; thankfully was hand made
    Paradox if 1996’. Patch: Al Gore unharmed in freedom square

    2009: President Obama nearly stabbed at summit in Istanbul
    2009’: President Obama stabbed to death in Istanbul; fake ID to blame

    2012: President Obama defeats Mitt Romney to gain second term

    Paradox if 2009’: Patch: President Biden defeats Mitt Romney to gain second term

    2016: Donald Trump nearly assassinated; rally nearly turned into riot
    2016’: Donald Trump assassinated; rally turns to riot

    2018: North Korea and South Korea launch peace talks; Korean War might end

    Paradox if 2016’: Patch: Korean War goes nuclear
     
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    1804: Aaron Burr kills Alexander Hamilton in a duel
    Paradox if 1787'. Patch: George Washington wins 1804 presidential election.
     
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    2010: Game of Thrones premires in HBO
    Paradox if 1996' or 1997': Patch: RWBY premires in HBO.
     
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    1972: Ferdinand Marcos declares martial law
    1972': ferdinand Marcos Steps down, Benigno Aquino jr. becomes president.
     
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    1917: Vladimir Lenin Arrives in Russia - Promises to bring "Peace, Bread, and Land."
    1917': Vladimir Lenin Arrested in Switzerland - Train delay is long enough for authorities to identify him.

    1922: Bolsheviks win Russian Civil War; Soviet Union Proclaimed.
    Paradox if 1917'. Patch: Russian Republic adopts new Constitution; Bolshevik leaders executed.

    1938: The Great Purge - Stalin executes suspected traitors in Soviet Top Brass
    Paradox if 1917'. Patch: Russia adopts industrialization reforms; President Kerensky argues they are necessary.

    1943:
    Battle of Stalingrad - Nazi forces surrender inside the city.
    Paradox if 1917'. Patch: Raid of Tsaritsyn - Russian armies annihilated by Nazi forces.

    1949: Communists win Chinese Civil war; Mao Zedong proclaims People's Republic.
    Paradox if 1917'. Patch: Chinese Communists Crushed. Chiang Kai-shek proclaims Chinese Republic.

    1950: Seoul captured by North Korea - Korean War begins.
    Paradox if 1917'. Patch: Korea given independence; Supported by both U.S.A. and Russia.

    1962: Cuban Missile Crisis - WW3 narrowly Averted
    Paradox if 1917'. Patch: Russia Joins NATO; Promises to intervene in dictatorships and rogue states.

    1968: Tet Offensive - U.S. support of Vietnam War dwindles drastically.
    Paradox if 1917'. Patch: U.S. intervenes in Vietnamese Civil War.

    1979:
    Soviet Union Invades Afghanistan - U.S.A condemns invasion.
    Paradox if 1917'. Patch: Russia and U.S.A. condemn the radical Iranian government.

    1991: Soviet Union Collapses - Cold War ends as Russia abandons Communism.
    Paradox if 1917'. Patch: Saddam Hussein steps down - Threatened with Russo-American invasion.

    1993: World Trade Center Bombed - Terrorist drives a bomb-laden van into parking garage under W.T.C.
    Paradox if 1917'. Patch: Russia intervenes in Yugoslavia; Rest of NATO soon follows.

    2001: World Trade Center Destroyed - Terrorist crash Hijacked airliners into W.T.C. and Pentagon.
    Paradox if 1917'. Patch: Russo-American Nuclear Treaty; Russia and U.S.A. agree to dismantle nuclear missiles.
     
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    Some ones mostly related to various firearm designs.

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    1872:
    U.S. Army adopts Springfield Trapdoor Rifle - "The repeaters waste ammo," generals claim.
    1872': U.S. Army adopts Winchester Repeating Rifle -"The trapdoor is too slow," generals claim.

    1873: Custer's Last Stand - 7th Cavalry annihilated by Sioux and Cheyenne Warriors at the Battle of the Little Bighorn.
    Paradox if 1872'. Patch: Custer's Greatest Victory - 7th Cavalry survives ambush by native tribes. Custer thanks Winchester for the victory.

    ARTIFACT: George Custer's Autobiography.

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    1884: Hiram Maxim patents the Maxim machine gun; Colonial powers buy it en masse.
    1884': Maxim gun considered too far ahead of its time. Colonial powers buy Gatling Guns instead.

    1893: Battle of the Shangani - 5 Maxim Guns slaughter 1,500 Ndebele warriors.
    Paradox if 1884'. Patch: Retreat at the Shangani - Major Forbes orders retreat when Gatling guns jam.


    1900: Scramble for Africa finished - Abyssinia and Liberia are the last independent African nations.
    Paradox if 1884'. Patch: Scramble for Africa stalls - Many parts of Africa untouched by Europeans.

    1915: Fokker Scourge - Allies can barely keep up with German aircraft weaponry.

    1915': Fokker's Folly - Fokker finds that someone has stolen his research notes, he has to start from scratch.

    1916: Battle of the Somme: 50,000 British casualties in the first hour.
    Paradox if 1884'. Patch: Haig's Charge at the Somme - British overrun German lines rapidly.

    1918: The Red Baron's Last Flight - Manfred von Richthofen shot down over France.
    Paradox if 1884' or 1915'. Patch: The Red Baron's Darkest Hour - Manfred von Richthofen barely survives injury.


    ARTIFACT: Manfred von Richthofen's Memoirs.

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    1919: 18th Amendment passed - Prohibits production and sale of Alcohol.
    1919': 18th Amendment fails to pass - Temperance movement outraged.

    1921: Thompson S.M.G. sold to Civilians - John Thompson has trouble finding a market.

    1921': Thompson S.M.G. sales restricted - typically to law enforcement.

    1929: The St. Valentines Day Massacre - Seven killed in a hail of lead.

    Paradox if 1921'. Patch: The St. Valentines Day Shootout - Three killed, one arrested.

    1931: Al Capone arrested; Charged with Tax Evasion.
    Paradox if 1919'. Patch: Al Capone murdered - perpetrator remains unknown.

    1934: National Firearms Act passed - imposes heavy taxes on certain firearms.
    Paradox if 1919' or 1921'. Patch: Worker's Act passed - creates new jobs for the poor.

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    1941: Mikhail Kalashnikov wounded - Hospitalized for four months.
    1941': Kalashnikov killed in Action - Surgeons unable to save him.

    1947: Kalashnikov presents the AK - Soviets adopt it as their new rifle
    Paradox if 1941'. Patch: Georgy Shpagin presents the AS - Soviets are hesitant to adopt it.


    1954: NATO Adopts the FAL - Chambered in 7.62mm NATO.

    1954': NATO Adopts the LAR - Chambered in .280 British.

    1957: Eugene Stoner designs the AR-15 - U.S. is hesitant to adopt it.

    Paradox if 1954'. Patch: Stoner's designs are considered unnecessary - back to the drawing board for him.

    1966: Vietnam War Intensifies - Casualties mount as U.S. public loses interest.

    Paradox if 1941' and/or 1954'. Patch: Situation in Vietnam stabilizes. U.S. troops thank their rifles for how the situation is going.

    ARTIFACT: An ASM automatic rifle, designed by Georgy Shpagin of PPSh-41 fame.
     
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    Alternate version

    1954: U.S. Army Adopts the M14 - U.S. generals claim it will be easier to re-tool production.
    1954': U.S. Army Adopts the FN FAL - U.S. generals annoyed at relying on foreign designs.

    1955: Belgium refuses to let West Germany produce the FAL - Bundeswehr adopts Heckler & Koch G3 rifle instead.
    1955': Belgium gives West Germany permission to produce the FAL. Heckler & Koch looks for new buyers for its rifle design.


    1957: Eugene Stoner designs the AR-15 - U.S. is hesitant to adopt it.
    Paradox if 1954'. Patch: Stoner's designs are considered unnecessary - back to the drawing board for him.

    1966: Heckler & Koch designs the MP5 SMG - based on their G3 rifle.
    Paradox if 1955'. Patch: Heckler & Koch files for bankruptcy - nobody wants their rifle.


    1967: Vietnam War Intensifies - Casualties mount as U.S. public loses interest.
    Paradox if 1954'. Patch: Situation in Vietnam stabilizes. U.S. troops thank their rifles for how the situation is going.


    1980: Iranian Embassy Siege - SAS soldiers rescue 24 hostages.
    Paradox if 1955'. Patch: Iranian Embassy Rescue Gone Wrong - 2 hostages dead, 3 wounded, when SAS soldier drops his Sterling SMG.
     
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    My take on the Vanilla Game:

    APR 1865: Abraham Lincoln Assassinated - President Shot during Theatrical Event
    APR 1865': Lincoln Wounded - Theatrical event marred by attempt to kill president;

    FEB 1868: Andrew Johnson Impeached - President escapes conviction and removal from office by one vote
    Paradox if APR 1865'. Patch: Abraham Lincoln Impeached - President escapes conviction and removal from office by three votes

    APR 1912: Titanic Collides with Iceberg - Collision with iceberg dooms new ocean liner
    APR 1912': Titanic Avoids Iceberg - Heroic Lookout unknown.

    JUN 1914: Archduke Ferdinand Assassinated - WWI breaks out one month later
    JUN 1914': Archduke Unharmed in Attack - Injured bodyguard still missing

    MAY 1915: Lusitania Sunk by Torpedo - German submarine torpedoes ocean liner
    MAY 1915': Lusitania Arrives Safely- Steamship escapes harm despite submarine blockade

    JUL 1916: Battle of the Somme - 50,000 British casualties in the first hour
    Paradox if JUN 1914'. Patch: Berlin Hosts Olympic Games - George Patton wins 2 gold medals for USA

    APR 1917: U.S. Declares War on Germany - Key reason: Sinking of Lusitania
    Paradox if MAY 1915'. Patch: President Wilson Keeps US Out of War ...just like he said he would

    OCT 1917: Vladimir Lenin Stages Coup - Promises to bring "Peace, Bread, and Land."
    OCT 1917': Vladimir Lenin Arrested - Train delay is long enough for authorities to identify him.

    NOV 1918: Europe in Ruins after WWI - Flu epidemic kills 20 million worldwide
    Paradox if JUN 1914' or MAY 1915'.
    If JUN 1914' - Patch A: European Economy Booms - Economy booms despite the Austro-Serbian war.
    If
    JUN 1914 and MAY 1915' - Patch B: Central Powers Win - Kaiser signs Treaty of Alsace, with surprisingly lenient terms for both sides.

    DEC 1922: Bolsheviks win Russian Civil War - Soviet Union Proclaimed.
    Paradox if OCT 1917'. Patch: Russian Republic adopts new Constitution- Bolshevik leaders executed.

    OCT 1929: Stock Market Crashes - Millionaires lose millions
    Paradox if APR 1912'. Patch: Titanic Explodes - Steamship sinks after striking derelict mine

    1933: The Great Depression - President Roosevelt launches New Deal
    Paradox if APR 1912'
    and MAY 1915'. Patch: The Mild Recession - "Things could be a lot worse," asserts President Hoover

    AUG 1936: Hitler Opens '36 Olympics - Nazi leader makes speech at Berlin Olympic Games
    AUG 1936': Adolf Hitler Assassinated - Berlin Olympics marred by sniper attack on host nation's leader

    MAY 1937: Hindenburg Explodes - Zeppelin bursts into flames while landing at Lakehurst
    MAY 1937': Bomb Found on Hindenburg - Device disarmed safely, but saboteur still at large

    SEP 1939: Germany Invades Poland - World War II begins
    Paradox if AUG 1936'. Patch: Fairgoers Love German Cake - Black Forest Cake served at Germany Pavilion is big hit at New York World's Fair

    JUN 1941: Operation Barbarossa - Germany invades Russia
    JUN 1941': Operation Barbarossa Called Off - Russia remains neutral

    DEC 1941: Pearl Harbor Bombed by Japanese - US enters WWII
    DEC 1941': Raid on Pearl Harbor Called Off - US remains neutral

    JAN 1942: Final Solution Undertaken - Systematic murder of all Jews agreed on at Wannsee Conference
    Paradox if AUG 1936'. Patch: Nuremberg Race Laws Repealed - New government restores full citizenship to German Jews

    DEC 1942:
    Battle of Stalingrad- Nazi forces surrender inside the city.
    Paradox if OCT 1917' or AUG 1936' and/or JUN 1941'.
    If OCT 1917' and AUG 1936 and JUN 1941 - Patch A: Raid of Tsaritsyn - Russian armies annihilated by Nazi forces.
    If
    AUG 1936' and JUN 1941 - Patch B: Treaty of Kiev - Russo-German war ends with both sides signing white peace.
    If
    AUG 1936 and JUN 1941' - Patch C: Allies pushed to the Suez Canal - Field Marshal Montgomery considers destroying it.
    If AUG 1936' and JUN 1941' - Patch D: Nazi Leaders executed - Last remnants of the former Nazi regime rounded up and shot.

    1943: Manhattan Project - Secret government project works to build nuclear weapon
    1943': Manhattan Project Sabotaged - Atomic bomb program set back two years

    JUN 1944: D-Day - Allied troops begin ground invasion
    Paradox if AUG 1936' and DEC 1941'. Patch: Warsaw Hosts Olympic Games - Jackie Robinson wins 5 gold medals for USA

    AUG 1945: A-Bombs Dropped on Japan - World War II ends
    Paradox if AUG 1936' or JUN 1941' or OCT 1917' or DEC 1941' or 1943'.

    If OCT 1917' and/or JUN 1941' and AUG 1936 and DEC 1941' - Patch A: Nazis Win - The nations of Europe are united under a strong central government
    If OCT 1917' or JUN 1941' and AUG 1936 and
    DEC 1941 and 1943 - Patch B: Nazis Surrender - Nazi War ends with the Atomic Bombing of Munich
    If OCT 1917' or JUN 1941' and AUG 1936 and DEC 1941 and 1943' - Patch C: Berlin Captured - Hitler found dead as American and British troops enter the city

    If OCT 1917 and JUN 1941 and AUG 1936 and DEC 1941' - Patch D: Soviets Conquer Europe - The nations of Europe come under communist governments
    If AUG 1936' and DEC 1941 and 1943'
    - Patch E: Tokyo Captured - WWII ends as Japan Surrenders
    If AUG 1936' and
    DEC 1941 and 1943 - Patch F: Tokyo Nuked - Japanese-American War ends with third Atomic Bombing
    If AUG 1936' and DEC 1941' - Patch G: World Peace - For once, for a little while, there is no war anywhere

    MAY 1948: Israel Founded - First Arab-Israeli War begins
    Paradox if AUG 1936'. Patch: Berlin Hosts World's Fair - 6 million tourists visit futuristic expo

    JUN 1950: Seoul captured by North Korea - Korean War begins, after USA's occupation forces are withdrawn from South Korea
    Paradox if MAY 1937'. Patch: Zeppelin Factory Opened in Seoul - Withdrawl of US forces from South Korea postponed (for reasons of National Security)

    OCT 1957: Sputnik Launched - Russians stun world by orbiting first satellite
    OCT 1957': Sputnik Rocket Explodes on Pad - American Vanguard satellite becomes first to orbit Earth

    OCT 1962: Cuban Missile Crisis - World War 3 narrowly averted

    Paradox if 1943' and OCT 1957' or OCT 1917'.
    If OCT 1917' - Patch A: Russia Joins NATO - Intervention in Korea deciding factor in inviting them.
    If
    OCT 1917 and 1943' and OCT 1957'- Patch B: WORLD WAR III - Human civilization destroyed as Cuban missile crisis escalates into nuclear war; UBERPARADOX!

    NOV 1963: President Kennedy Assassinated - President John F. Kennedy shot during motorcade
    NOV 1963': JFK Injured in Motorcade Shooting - Doctors predict full recovery

    APR 1968: Martin Luther King Jr. Assassinated - Civil Rights activist gunned down.
    APR 1968': MLK Nearly Assassinated - Would-be assassin arrested.

    MAY 1968: Tet Offensive - U.S. support of Vietnam War dwindles drastically.

    Paradox if NOV 1963'. Patch: Situation in Vietnam stabilizes - U.S. troops wind down combat operations, while maintaining presence.

    JUL 1969: Apollo 11 Lands on Moon - One small step for a man, One giant leap for mankind.
    Paradox if NOV 1963' and OCT 1957'. Patch: Soyuz 6 Orbits Mood - America's space program still lagging behind.


    AUG 1974:
    Nixon Resigns - Vice President Ford replaces Nixon after Watergate scandal
    Paradox if APR 1865' and APR 1968'. Patch: President King Takes Office - V.P. King becomes first black president following impeachment of Nixon

    DEC 1979: Soviet Union Invades Afghanistan - U.S.A condemns invasion.

    Paradox if OCT 1917'. Patch: Communist Coup in Afghanistan - Condemned by U.S.A. and Russia.

    DEC 1980: John Lennon Murdered - Deranged fan guns down rock star on NYC street
    DEC 1980': John Lennon Nearly Killed - Mystery Samaritan intervenes in street attack on rock star, then disappears into Central Park

    MAR 1981: Reagan Wounded - President survives when he and 3 staff members are shot outside
    MAR 1981': Reagan Assassinated - President survives shooting only to die on operating table

    1985: Americans support Mujahideen - "It will win the war in Afghanistan," says President
    1985': Americans decline support of Mujahideen - "They are too far radical," President claims

    JAN 1986: Challenger Explodes - Space Shuttle blows up due to freezing of O-rings
    Paradox if DEC 1980' and/or MAR 1981'.
    If MAR 1981' - Patch A: Challenger Launch Delayed - President Mondale halts launch to to freezing temperatures
    If DEC 1980' - Patch B: The Challenger Protest - National Guard called in when Lennon stages protest on launchpad.

    If DEC 1980' and MAR 1981' - Patch C: Marijuana Legalized - President Mondale signs bill repealing prohibition after protest on shuttle launchpad staged by John Lennon

    OCT 1988: Mikhail Gorbachev becomes leader of Russia - promises to reform the old government
    OCT 1988': Vladimir Kryuchkov becomes leader of Russia - Gorbachev seen as a threat to Russian values.

    DEC 1991: Soviet Union Collapses - The Cold War ends as Russia abandons Communism
    Paradox if OCT 1917' or MAR 1981' or OCT 1988'.
    If OCT 1917' - Patch A: Russo-American Nuclear Treaty - Russia and U.S.A. agree to dismantle nuclear missiles.
    If
    OCT 1917 and MAR 1981' or OCT 1988' - Patch B: Communism Reinvents Itself - Soviet Union adopts numerous reforms while remaining fundamentally communistic

    FEB 1993: World Trade Center Bombed - Terrorists drive a bomb-filled Van under the twin towers.
    Paradox if 1985'. Patch: Intervention in Yugoslavia - Russo-American coalition intervenes to stop violence.

    APR 1993: Waco Compound Burns to Ground - Federal seige of Branch Davidian compound ends in death and destruction
    APR 1993': Waco Standoff Defused Peacefully - Tanks withdrawn from area

    APR 1995: Oklahoma City Bombing - Act of terrorism destroys federal office building on anniversary of Waco siege
    Paradox if APR 1993'. Patch: David Koresh's Ministry Opens New Hospital - Free clinic serves Waco and nearby Texas communities

    SEP 1996: Taliban Takes Power - Islamic rebels defeat Northern Alliance
    Paradox if 1985'. Patch: Northern Alliance Defeats Rebels - Taliban Leaders executed.

    APR 1999: Columbine High School Massacre - With nihilism on the rise, shooting spree is one of many
    Paradox if DEC 1980'. Patch: Lennon's Folly - Senator Lennon impeached for daring to repeal the 2nd amendment.

    NOV 2000: George W. Bush wins Presidency - Florida Recount halted by Supreme Court
    NOV 2000': Al Gore wins Presidency - Florida Recount proceeds as planned

    SEP 2001: World Trade Center Destroyed - Terrorists fly hijacked airliners into the Twin Towers and Pentagon
    Paradox if 1985' and/or NOV 2000.
    If 1985 and NOV 2000' - Patch A: White House Nearly Destroyed - Heroic passengers overpower terrorists
    If 1985' and NOV 2000 - Patch B: Bush Continues Tax Cuts - The rich continue to get richer...
    If 1985' and NOV 2000' - Patch C: Balanced Budget Act - "The surplus will only get bigger from here," says President Gore
     
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    Pretty interesting one:

    1931: Prince Edward Visits Leicestershire - Viscount Furness introduces the prince to a friend of hers.
    1931': Car hits Local Woman - "I was starting to like that woman," laments Prince Edward.

    1936: King Edward VIII Abdicates - Wants to marry a divorced woman named Wallis Simpson.
    Paradox if 1931'. Patch: Edward VIII marries Princess Juliana - Wedding celebrated across the empire.

    1940: Battle of Britain - "This was their finest hour," affirms Prime Minister Churchill
    Paradox if 1931'. Patch: Prime Minister Churchill Killed - Bomb destroys 10 Downing Street.

    1942: Operation Torch: - Western allies invade North Africa.
    Paradox if 1931'. Patch: German Spies found in Buckingham Palace - King Edward VIII suspected a traitor.


    1944: Operation Overlord: - Allies invade Western Europe.
    Paradox if 1931'. Patch: Operation Sealion: Britain agrees to sue for peace as German soldiers march on London.
     
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    Now, Early American Chrononauts - My Version!

    APR 1770: Tea Exempted in Tax Repeal - Taxes on goods such as paint, paper, and glass - but not tea - are lifted
    APR 1770': Townshend Act Fully Repealed - Burdensome taxes on trade goods, including tea, are withdrawn

    DEC 1773: Boston Tea Party - Angry colonists throw crates of tea into Boston Harbor to protest tax
    Paradox if APR 1770'. Patch: Boston Cake Riot - Angry colonists throw cakes at Redcoats and smash a bakery in response to enforcement of the Bakery Toll of 1771

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    JUL 1894: Republic of Hawaii Proclaimed - Monarchy overthrown when Queen Liliʻuokalani rejects Hawaiian Constitution.
    Paradox if APR 1775' or APR 1861' or SEP 1862'
    If APR 1775' and APR 1861 or SEP 1862 - Patch A: Confederate States Independent Once Again - Southerners uncover an early draft of "An Appeal to World Opinion", and declare independence.
    If
    APR 1775 and APR 1861' or SEP 1862' - Patch B: Confederate States Abolishes Slavery - "The evils of slavery will haunt us for all eternity," Vice President Rooney Lee laments.

    FEB 1898: Spanish-American War Begins - Battleship Maine blows up and sinks, triggering war with Spain
    Paradox if APR 1775' or APR 1861' or SEP 1862'. Patch: Second War Between the States Begins - Sinking of the Maine is blamed on Southern saboteurs, leading to new war between the North and South

    NOV 1904: Work Begins on Panama Canal - Digging by American steam shovels starts at the Culebra cut
    Paradox if APR 1775' or APR 1861' or SEP 1862'. Patch: USA Re-United - After years of functioning as a separate nation, and after themselves abolishing slavery, the Confederate States again become part of the USA

    JUN 1916: "Star Spangled Banner" becomes National Anthem - President Wilson orders it played at military & naval occasions
    Paradox if AUG 1814'. Patch: "America the Beautiful" becomes National Anthem - President Taft orders it played at military & naval occasions

    ---------WORK IN PROGRESS---------
     
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  18. StomperYoshi Well-Known Member

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    Was playing vanilla Chrononauts when one of my friends said "Wouldn't saving Ferdinand prevent the sinking of the Lusitania?" I do believe he just found a gaping plothole.
     
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  19. ArJayKay32 Member

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    I'm not sure if this is allowed, but I'll explain what I changed from the vanilla version of Chrononauts and why:

    In general, I gave each event both a month and a year, since, for example, a linchpin and a ripplepoint could be in the same year, so the month makes it easier to figure out which linchpins need to be flipped in order to get a certain result. The only ones without a month are ones that occur throughout a year.

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    I changed the flavor text of the patch, since I think a few more people would object to Lincoln being impeached.


    I changed the flavor of the altered linchpin to imply intervention from a time traveler.

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    Here's the first new bookmark in the timeline. I thought this could be another event affected by Franz Ferdinand's assassination, as I thought it only effecting one didn't seem right considering how important it is.

    For the patch, Berlin was to host the Olympic Games in 1916, but they were canceled for obvious reasons.

    George Patton had participated in the Stockholm Olympics in 1912, specifically in the modern pentathlon.

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    Another "what if" that the original game overlooks is the October Revolution. I believe that if Lenin were to be arrested before the Germans had put him on a train to Russia, the history of both Russia and the world would be very different.

    Two changes here: Most obviously, I added an alternate patch, in which Franz Ferdinand is still killed but the Lusitania isn't sunk. The end result is that the U.S. doesn't intervene, and the Central Powers end up winning the war without their influence.

    The other change is that I change the flavor text for the original patch. I think an attempt on Fraz Ferdinand's life would still result in Austria going to war with Serbia, but presumably this war doesn't escalate into the absolute clusterf*ck that resulted in our timeline.

    Without Lenin's influence, I believe that the Bolsheviks would have had a bit harder time managing to gain control of the Russian government.

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    I changed the flavor text. Here, it is Herbert Hoover, and not FDR, that says that things could be worse, the implication being that without the stock market crash of 1929, Hoover ends up being re-elected.


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    Another "what if", this one being that the Germans realize that invading the USSR is a horrible idea, and as a result, Operation Barbarossa gets called off, and thus, Russia remains neutral in WWII.


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    Ho boy. Let me explain each patch:

    Patch A: Here, the October revolution fails, but Hitler still rises to power and invades Russia. The result is that the non-Soviet Russian forces end up getting utterly curbstomped.
    As a side note, Tsaritsyn was the original name for the city of Volgograd. It was renamed to Stalingrad in 1925, before being given it's current name in 1961.

    Patch B: This card is here to explain the Operation Barbarossa Linchpin in a scenario where Hitler gets killed.

    Patch C: Here, Hitler lives but realizes that invading Russia is a bad idea. The implication is that German forces that would have been tied down in Russia are instead deployed in Africa, where the other allies are having a much harder time dealing with them.

    Patch D: Here, WWII never happens. The post-Nazi government has dealt with whatever remaining resistance there is.



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    Again, nothing changed here. I must say, I do appreciate that the original timeline card just says "Allied troops begin ground invasion." They don't specify where. Presumably, if not Normandy, maybe the Japanese home islands?


    Once more, let me explain each patch:

    Patch A: A card from the original game, the requirements for this are:

    1. Hitler is alive
    2. Either Lenin is arrested, or Operation Barbarossa is called off
    3. The Pearl Harbor attacks are called off
    The result? Nazi Victory. The flavor text makes the scenario sound less nightmarish then it really would be, in my opinion.

    Patches B & C: the requirements for these are:
    1. Hitler is alive
    2. Either Lenin is arrested, or Operation Barbarossa is called off
    3. The Pearl Harbor attack happens.
    4. For Patch B, the Manhattan project is not sabotaged. Patch C requires sabotage.
    Here, the U.S. still intervenes in WWII, but the USSR doesn't. In Patch B, Munich gets nuked, while in Patch C, it's the Western Allies, and not the Soviets, that take Berlin.

    Patch D: the requirements for these are:
    1. Hitler is alive
    2. Either Lenin is not arrested, or Operation Barbarossa happens
    3. The Pearl Harbor attack is called off
    The end result is that without the assistance of the U.S., the Allies still win WWII, but the post-war is a much more grim situation, with the Iron Curtain ending at the French coast instead of at the Elbe river.

    Patches E & F: the requirements for these are:
    1. Hitler is dead
    2. The Pearl Harbor attack happens.
    3. For Patch F, the Manhattan project is not sabotaged. Patch E requires sabotage.
    These cards are from the original game.

    Patch G: the requirements for this are:
    1. Hitler is dead
    2. The Pearl Harbor attack is called off
    This card is from the original game. Whew!


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    Nothing changed here. The logic behind a Zeppelin factory preventing the Korean War is a bit weird.



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    The UberParadox is kept, but there is also an alternate patch where Russia isn't communist.


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    Preventing the assassination of JFK also indirectly preventing the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. seems a bit ridiculous, so I decided to make his assassination it's own linchpin.


    Two changes here:

    1. The original event was the assassinations of Robert F. Kennedy and MLK, but considering the patch, I made it something more related to the Vietnam war.
    2. For the patch, the implication here is that JFK presumably doesn't go all out with the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution or something similar like LBJ did, and the war doesn't spiral into the generation scarring clusterf*ck it was in our timeline.
    Nothing changed here, except I gave the Russian moon mission a name.

    Nothing changed about the event itself, but the requirements are changed, as I mentioned above.


    A new linchpin. The patch explains a latter linchpin I'll get into in a bit.


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    A new linchpin. Either they're fighting the invading Soviets if the USSR exists, or they're fighting the local communist government if it doesn't.

    Patch C is the original card.

    In Patch B, John Lennon lives, but so does Ronald Reagan. Here, Lennon tries his protest like in patch C, but Reagan, unlike Mondale, isn't having his shit. He sends in the U.S. National Guard to deal with him.

    In Patch A, both Lennon and Reagan are dead. Here, Walter Mondale orders NASA to delay the launch of the Challenger shuttle.

    A new linchpin. Note how I say "Russia" and not "The USSR."

    Patch B is the original, and occurs if Lenin is not arrested, but either Reagan is dead, or Gorbachev is not the Russian Leader. If it's the latter, presumably Kryuchkov is more of a hardline communist than Gorbachev.

    Patch A occurs if Lenin is arrested.

    A few of the Mujaheddin fighters that the U.S. supported against the Soviets later became Al-Qaeda. Yeah, that really bit them in the ass down the line.

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    Many of the other Mujaheddin mentioned above became the Taliban.


    I changed the flavor text of the patch. The idea of Lennon even thinking of repealing the Right to Bear Arms is just silly, and I can see it getting rejected instantly.

    A card from the Gore Years.

    9/11 is probably one of the most relatively recent "what if" events out there.
     
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  20. ArJayKay32 Member

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    Same deal with Hitler, as without WWI, Hitler likely wouldn't have gone into politics.

    In fact, a load of events in the timeline can be traced back to WWI.
     
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