28 Days Later outbreak timeline - Death of a Nation

Yeah, but North American low density areas are *considerably* larger than British (or Western European). Unlike the New Zealand situation mentioned, you'd need *multiple* assisted transports to knock out a majority of the United States.
England really is the perfect (worst?) place for RAGE to happen. I live in Norfolk, one of the more rural parts of England, and we still has a population density eight times that of Iowa.
 
Also I dont think we should get the wrong idea from that map the OP just found.While that map is showing survivors there is no reason to think its expressing population density.Some of those areas have been completely depopulated so there is no reason to think the shaded areas are teeming with non infected life...
 
So were there any prominent Britons (ie Royal Family,Politics , Celeberties etc) who were infected or killed in the original outbreak ?

The original story on this thread had the Queen die, but I think she is tough enough to weather this. I suspect she would be holed up at Windsor behind Very high security and refuse to leave, as she is representing the continuity of the country. Windsor is a lot more defensible than Balmoral or Buckingham Palace. Though since WWZ did it, I think I would have her in Edinburgh or Dover Castle- both fantastically defensible positions.

Prince Charles would be shipped off to Ireland wit the government and/or Canada. I could see him goto N. Ireland. His children would be sent aboard.
Prince Andrew and most of the Royal kids would be sent to New Zealand or Canada for the duration 'in case.'
Princess Anne would possibly be with her Mother or sent to the continent.

The other lesser Royals would get out or join the Horde.

As for Celebrities? Roll a dice.

Good chance anyone who homes in the West, North or Scotland had an chance to escape to Ireland and/or aboard esp with an access to private jets or copters- well at least at first.
SW similar across the channel.
London - toss up
Norfolk, Cambridgeshire? Low odds, depending on when they heard the news.

I could see the BBC activate some of their cold war protocols and go underground. I am fairly sure some facilities remain online. Dover Castle I think still has a working studio, or could set one up easily. There are some museum bunkers across the UK which *might* be in working order. Until the Glasgow- Edinburgh belt fell the studios up there would keep broadcasting which requires people to do it- same with N Ireland. Britain would like to hear familiar voices, so I could see a sort of rolling Today programme or on the hour news broadcasts from familiar voices like James Naughtie, John Humphrys, or Moira Stuart.

Some of the NATO bases or GCHQ would lkely have broadcast facilities that could hold out for a while.

Even if NATO imposes a broadcast jam, there will be people with ham radios- CB- and such that might be able to broadcast- see the movie for one such.

As for the music post-fall? I imagine the world will be facing a huge recession with the loss of the British economy, and the City of London services, plus the impact of caring for refugees will have on the EU- an EU still settling into having changed to using the Euro only months before the infection hit. This dark, depressing period would show up in the songs- so lots of 'we will get through this' ballads, with 'the day the world ended' grimmer stuff - lots of 'lost lover' songs I suspect.

There would be fundraisers and such in the UK and Commonwealth, maybe even places like Russia, Japan etc as the world reacts in horror at the Rage epidemic, and takes steps to lock down its down facilities once the origin becomes known.

Once the quarantine goes into place- expect more news from the camps and dealing with the remaining govt in NI. I cannot see Rage Britain not being on the front pages for months, and months. Though the D.C. Sniper attacks in late 2002 may push it to one side in the US at least.

After a month or so, calls for something to be done about the camps are likely led by the media, but I can see redeployed soldiers from the Mid East would be used to build new camps, improve conditions, and keep order. Surviving British celebs would be used to keep order and entertain, people like Lenny Henry, Jimmy Saville, Julie Walters, Ronnie Corbett, Victoria Wood, etc etc.

Since I do not believe 28 Weeks Later happens there would be no attempt to resettle London in my headcannon. Instead a more systematic approach to clearing zones and establishing military footholds would be used, which would include 'embedded' media, and once bases where set up possibly 'famous faces' on the ground making reports.
Of course as the military make these moves I could see the Media trying to get people across the channel to report on 'abandoned Britain' which would have it's own risk in the heavily patrolled quarantine zone.
 
The original story on this thread had the Queen die, but I think she is tough enough to weather this. I suspect she would be holed up at Windsor behind Very high security and refuse to leave, as she is representing the continuity of the country. Windsor is a lot more defensible than Balmoral or Buckingham Palace. Though since WWZ did it, I think I would have her in Edinburgh or Dover Castle- both fantastically defensible positions.

Prince Charles would be shipped off to Ireland wit the government and/or Canada. I could see him goto N. Ireland. His children would be sent aboard.
Prince Andrew and most of the Royal kids would be sent to New Zealand or Canada for the duration 'in case.'
Princess Anne would possibly be with her Mother or sent to the continent.

The other lesser Royals would get out or join the Horde.

As for Celebrities? Roll a dice.

Good chance anyone who homes in the West, North or Scotland had an chance to escape to Ireland and/or aboard esp with an access to private jets or copters- well at least at first.
SW similar across the channel.
London - toss up
Norfolk, Cambridgeshire? Low odds, depending on when they heard the news.

I could see the BBC activate some of their cold war protocols and go underground. I am fairly sure some facilities remain online. Dover Castle I think still has a working studio, or could set one up easily. There are some museum bunkers across the UK which *might* be in working order. Until the Glasgow- Edinburgh belt fell the studios up there would keep broadcasting which requires people to do it- same with N Ireland. Britain would like to hear familiar voices, so I could see a sort of rolling Today programme or on the hour news broadcasts from familiar voices like James Naughtie, John Humphrys, or Moira Stuart.

Some of the NATO bases or GCHQ would lkely have broadcast facilities that could hold out for a while.

Even if NATO imposes a broadcast jam, there will be people with ham radios- CB- and such that might be able to broadcast- see the movie for one such.

As for the music post-fall? I imagine the world will be facing a huge recession with the loss of the British economy, and the City of London services, plus the impact of caring for refugees will have on the EU- an EU still settling into having changed to using the Euro only months before the infection hit. This dark, depressing period would show up in the songs- so lots of 'we will get through this' ballads, with 'the day the world ended' grimmer stuff - lots of 'lost lover' songs I suspect.

There would be fundraisers and such in the UK and Commonwealth, maybe even places like Russia, Japan etc as the world reacts in horror at the Rage epidemic, and takes steps to lock down its down facilities once the origin becomes known.

Once the quarantine goes into place- expect more news from the camps and dealing with the remaining govt in NI. I cannot see Rage Britain not being on the front pages for months, and months. Though the D.C. Sniper attacks in late 2002 may push it to one side in the US at least.

After a month or so, calls for something to be done about the camps are likely led by the media, but I can see redeployed soldiers from the Mid East would be used to build new camps, improve conditions, and keep order. Surviving British celebs would be used to keep order and entertain, people like Lenny Henry, Jimmy Saville, Julie Walters, Ronnie Corbett, Victoria Wood, etc etc.

Since I do not believe 28 Weeks Later happens there would be no attempt to resettle London in my headcannon. Instead a more systematic approach to clearing zones and establishing military footholds would be used, which would include 'embedded' media, and once bases where set up possibly 'famous faces' on the ground making reports.
Of course as the military make these moves I could see the Media trying to get people across the channel to report on 'abandoned Britain' which would have it's own risk in the heavily patrolled quarantine zone.
The movie is widely reckoned as taking place in or around May 2002. Princess Margaret died in February 2002 and Elizabeth the Queen Mother in March 2002.With the Rage disaster falling hard on the heels of those twin very hard loses Elizabeth II would have been under tremendous strain-it would have been a big test for her thats for sure.
In 2002 9/11 was still in the headlines in the US but this would have knocked it off I can assure you.The US still has a strong cultural connection to the UK simply on the basis of both being native English speakers. The Rage Virus would have Americas full attention for quite some time to come. Also because of that the UK would be in a position to get what it wanted including an American led NATO force to re-establish control and habitation in the country. The events of 28 Weeks Later seem to happen much too quickly for most people but doesnt it make sense?
If you had to abandon your country for dead and then you find out it isnt as dead as you thought wouldnt you want to get back and in control as soon as possible? If only to firmly establish its still really yours.Also if hundreds of thousands if not millions of your citizens were in refugee camps in Western Europe and the US and Canada you would be under tremendous pressure to get things back to normal for them as soon as possible. The actions that Blair and Bush seem to take between movies to re-establish the UK and very quickly make a lot of sense given the context...
 
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America is in this fight from the very beginning too. The outbreak in Cambridgeshire will rapidly reach the dozen US military bases in the East of England. (Lakenheath, Mildenhall, Flyingdales, Alconbury and so on)
They'll be overun as none are fortified to stop Ragers. Britain has many other Americans in country too, all likely more victims.
As quick as possible, there would be a desire in Washington to get 'revenge' for the dead but also secure all their military hardware & secrets left at those facilities.
Those US troops in the second film were portrayed as being almost on an alien planet in how the saw the UK. US forces will in fact be very comfortable here.
 

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28 Days Under A Long White Cloud - a Rage virus in New Zealand setting on this site somewhere (I'll look for the link) - has a husband tying up his wife, sticking her in a boat and bringing her from South Island to North Island. He is seeking a cure for her there. That was something I found very possible in any 28 Days Later type scenario, heck any virus lore.

The story: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ite-cloud-the-outbreak-in-new-zealand.232833/
Just wanted to say thanks to you for digging up this gem of a TL from 8 years ago and sharing it with us. Just spent the last two days reading though the entire thing and really enjoyed it.
 
It occurred to me that the French will definitely try fortifying their northern/English channel coast perhaps including forcibly evacuating civilians from long stretches of land stretching from the water to a certain point inland. Besides refugees there' also the obvious threat from the infected (and in all likelihood tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of bodies minimum will end up in the water and washing ashore on various European countries coast. Just a stupid kid deciding to poke the body he found on the beach could set off a full scale epidemic. As part of that fortification effort it seems likely the French would try to reuse various fortifications built by the Germans during WW2 (At least the ones still in decent shape.

Similarly it would make sense to me that various countries would try sending at least some ground forces to Europe (besides all of the aircraft, ships, and logistical support.

So you could easily end up wit a scenario where American, French, German, Russian, and even Chinese or Indian troops are garrisoned side by side prepared to fight off a invasion originating in England. The grandsons and great grandsons of men who tried to kill each other during WW2 will be occupying like 80 year old bunkers and pillboxes built by slave labor.
 
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