2019 Turtledoves - Best Colonialism and Revolutions Timeline Voting Poll

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by SargentHawk, Feb 21, 2019.

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The Best Colonialism and Revolutions Timeline Is?

Poll closed Mar 7, 2019.
  1. "What Madness Is This?" Redux: The Union Forever - Napoleon53

    135 vote(s)
    29.2%
  2. "Of course I can, I am the King of Prussia" - historyfool

    65 vote(s)
    14.0%
  3. A Destiny Realized: A Timeline of Afsharid Iran and Beyond -Nassirisimo

    54 vote(s)
    11.7%
  4. Until every drop of blood is paid - A more radical American Civil War - Red_Galiray

    88 vote(s)
    19.0%
  5. Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline - Earl Marshal

    131 vote(s)
    28.3%
  6. Rebirth of an Empire "O Renascimento de um Império" v2.0 - Lusitania

    47 vote(s)
    10.2%
  7. Miranda's Dream, ¡Por una Latino América fuerte!.- A Gran Colombia TL - Red_Galiray

    40 vote(s)
    8.6%
  8. Marche Consulaire - TRH

    28 vote(s)
    6.0%
  9. Of Rajahs and Hornbills: A Timeline - Al-numbers

    55 vote(s)
    11.9%
  10. We Need No Protection - Richthofen

    16 vote(s)
    3.5%
  11. Death of a Republic (A monarchical USA timeline) - Schnozberry

    42 vote(s)
    9.1%
  12. "Spectre of Europe - An Alternative Paris Commune Timeline" - Reydan

    41 vote(s)
    8.9%
  13. "Washington Burns: A Story of Alternate America" - Eckener.

    42 vote(s)
    9.1%
  14. From Iron, Blood: A Bismark Assassinated TL - FillyofDelphi

    33 vote(s)
    7.1%
  15. Middle Kingdom: Story of the Star Dynasty- EmperorBuaya

    17 vote(s)
    3.7%
  16. The Great Turk returns - An earlier reforming Ottoman POD (1747) -Koprulu Mustafa Pasha

    29 vote(s)
    6.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. SargentHawk Nixon Now, More Than Ever

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  2. Dathi THorfinnsson Daði Þorfinnsson

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    These polls should be stickied, right?
     
  3. Lalli Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but only mods can do that. Hopefully they do that soon.
     
  4. scretchy Well-Known Member

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    is it intended that historyfools story is nominated here? This is an ASB story.
     
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  5. Xenophonte Quod natura non dat, Salmantica non præstat.

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    @SargentHawk The nominated story:
    "Of course I can, I am the King of Prussia" belong to ASB
     
  6. SargentHawk Nixon Now, More Than Ever

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    Thanks for pointing this out. I have made the note for everyone not to vote for the option.
     
  7. Lusitania Donor

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    Can you not delete it from poll?
     
  8. Napoleon53 Order of Monocled Sirs ಠ_ರೃ

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    It's gotten three new votes since this afternoon I believe. Lol
     
  9. Red_Galiray En un pueblito al sur de Estados Unidos.

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    Can we add additional information about our timelines, such as summaries and sources?
     
  10. Xenophonte Quod natura non dat, Salmantica non præstat.

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    Yes, I think that you can to post an short summary given that was asked earlier and Sargent Hawk has stated that it's allowed and some authors have started to post it even with images.
     
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  11. SargentHawk Nixon Now, More Than Ever

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    No
     
  12. Red_Galiray En un pueblito al sur de Estados Unidos.

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    This year, I have two different TLs competing in the same category.

    The first is Miranda's Dream: ¡Por una Latinoamérica fuerte! Started three years ago, and with around 52 chapters, the TL is mainly based around the idea of a successful Gran Colombia, and a more powerful and stable Latin America overall. The POD is that Francisco de Miranda falls in love with Susan Livingston, and as a result he settles in the US instead of Britain, and is much more influenced by American federalism, plus becomes more cautious and less arrogant. From the US, he unleashes a wave of propaganda that alarms the Spanish enough to massacre the Juntas of Quito and Bogotá. Miranda and these massacres convince the Juntas of Cartagena and Caracas that working together is necessary to achieve independence. The rest of the TL follows Gran Colombia, the Mexican Empire and others during the tumultuous XIXth century!

    The Santander Regime in Gran Colombia, by David Bushnell.
    The Making of Modern Colombia, a Nation in Spite of Itself, by David Bushnell.
    Americanos, Latin America's struggle for independence, by John Chasteen.
    The Cambridge History of Latin America, by Leslie Bethell.
    1848, Year of Revolution, by Mike Rapport.
    So far from God, The U.S. war with Mexico, by John S.D. Eisenhower.
    What God hath brought, the Transformation of America, by Daniel Walker Howe.
    Battle Cry of Freedom, by James M. McPherson.

    The second is Until every drop of blood is paid - A more radical American Civil War. Started 6 months ago, and with 15 chapters, the TL follows a more radical ACW, which takes place after Lyman Trumbull is murdered by a pro-slavery fanatic, allowing Lincoln to be elected to the Senate in 1854. Events start to spirafall, and a different war, one with more radical goals from the very beginning, takes place.

    The Battle Cry of Freedom, the Civil War Era, by James M. McPherson.
    Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Men, by Eric Foner.
    The Road to Secession II, by William W. Freehling.
    The Fiery Trial, by Eric Foner.
    Team of Rivals, by Doris Goodwin.
    The Civil War, a Narrative, by Shelby Foote.
    McClellan's War, by Ethan S. Rafuse.
    Tried by War, by James M. McPherson.
    What they fought for, by James M. McPherson.
    The destructive war, by Charles Royster.
    The Fate of Liberty, by Mark E. Neely.
    Freedom National, by James Oakes.
    Reconstruction, America's unfinished revolution, by Eric Foner.
     
  13. Schnozzberry Secretly illiterate Donor

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    I can't tell if the misspelling here is just a mistake or a joke about the fact that I am, as my tagline implies, illiterate.

    I'm gonna choose the later because it's funnier.

    So, anywho, Death of a Republic is a timeline about a Monarchical United States of America, and is at least to some degree to acknowledge the very real insanity present in our timeline while creating its own unique insanity without plunging into outright dystopia.

    The POD is the death of William Shepard during Shay's Rebellion which leads to the rebellion escalating before it is hijacked by a drunkard printer, Clark Hopswood. New Hampshire is invaded, a slave revolt tears apart the south and both Britain and Spain begins to gnaw at the fringes of the United States. The Union totters on the brink of destruction until, in order to ensure security and stability, the Republic was reorganized into the first American monarchy. The new monarchy is now challenged to survive in a world plagued by reactionary uprisings, liberal revolution, Kartoffelkrieg and - worst of all - two Floridas!
     
  14. Lusitania Donor

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    Well then edit it in the poll. Change the wording. No?
     
  15. TRH Tyrannosaurus Rex Handler

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    Is the red lettering in the OP explaining that it's ineligible for the award not enough?
     
  16. Lusitania Donor

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    Yeah but people are still voting for it since it is in red. Was wondering if you actually changed the text in the poll.
     
  17. TRH Tyrannosaurus Rex Handler

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    Point taken. Guess that's up to SargentHawk.

    In any case, Marche Consulaire:

    The Greater Poland Uprising is a failure. The ever pragmatic Napoleon changes his political strategy, shelving any plans for a Polish state in favor of a stronger alliance with Russia. This, along with no invasion of Spain, leads to French victory in the Napoleonic Wars. But that's just the first part of the story. Follow the developments of the postwar world, from the tangled web of coups, counter-coups, and civil wars in Iberia and Latin America, to the tripolar Great Game in the Near East and India, to the clash of ideas that unfolds in every nation as a result of a "successful" French Revolution. The schemes and conquests of Napoleon and his heirs will change the world forever.
     
  18. Lusitania Donor

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    Take a break from your typical American or British Wank and enjoy a TL about one of the countries not often written about; the Portuguese and all the people that make up the Lusophone world. With a POD of 1750 we strive to portray a country and people while keeping both within realism. Enjoy realistic reforms, progression and development. At same time we strive to write military campaigns that seem real and straight out of history books.

    Our stories have spanned all continents, covering Portuguese history in Europe, Americas, Africa, India and Asia. We hope you enjoy our TL and become a fan.

    Lusitania & Thrudgelmir2333
     
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  19. Earl Marshal Well-Known Member

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    Pride Goes Before a Fall is a timeline exploring a world in which Greece performs slightly better in their War for Independence against the Ottoman Empire.

    While the Greeks did enjoy a great deal of success in the first years of the OTL War for Independence, they would soon begin fighting amongst themselves as tensions between the Greek factions began to rise. This infighting would result in two costly civil wars, the death or imprisonment of several prominent Greek leaders, and the disillusionment of their Philhellene allies allowing the Ottomans and Egyptians to very nearly destroy the nascent Greek state in 1826/1827. Greece would eventually win its independence in 1832 with British, French, and Russian intervention, but its borders were smaller than promised and large swaths of the country were left in ruins. It was also saddled with a massive debt, a well-meaning but otherwise incompetent King in Prince Otto of Bavaria, and chronic political instability that would plague it until the second half of the 20th Century.

    In this timeline, the divide between the various factions in Revolutionary Greece is mitigated somewhat, allowing them to resolve their differences peacefully rather than through violence, although there is still a fair amount of violence. As a result, Greece, with sufficient aid from Britain, France, and Russia, wins its independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1830, its lands largely intact and their borders stretching from Central Greece to Crete and Chios. Soon after, Leopold of Saxe Coburg and Gotha is selected as King of Greece and with the aid of Ioannis Kapodistrias, who isn't murdered ITTL, Greece becomes one of the more economically prosperous and politically stable states in Europe.
     
  20. Nassirisimo Angry Arab

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    In A Destiny Realized: A Timeline of Afsharid Iran and Beyond, the last great Asiatic Conqueror Nader Shah does not develop malaria and subsequent insanity in the 1740s but is instead able to lay the foundations for a lasting, centralised Persian dynasty that avoids the internal tumult of the 18th century and leaves a larger, more prosperous Iran which happens to be Sunni rather than Shi'a. As a result of Nader's conquests, and his empire's survival, the Islamic World is, to some extent able to keep pace with the West into the 19th century. India is able to avoid the domination of a European power, and China remains a sleeping dragon.