2018 Turtledoves: Best Colonialism and Revolutions Era Timeline Poll

The Best Colonialism and Revolutions Era Timeline is:

  • Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline; Earl Marshal

    Votes: 95 27.0%
  • The Napolead: What if Napoleon Won the War in Russia?; BiteNibbleChomp

    Votes: 63 17.9%
  • King Theodore's Corsica; Carp

    Votes: 120 34.1%
  • Miranda's Dream. ¡Por una Latino América fuerte!; Red_Galiray

    Votes: 34 9.7%
  • His Truth is Marching on: Lincoln Dead in 1861; Canis Lupis

    Votes: 17 4.8%
  • Revolution or a Victorian Cold War; KitFisto1997

    Votes: 25 7.1%
  • A Destiny Realized: A Timeline of Afsharid Iran and Beyond; Nassirisimo

    Votes: 50 14.2%
  • George Washington II; Imperolo

    Votes: 24 6.8%
  • A House Divided: A TL; utgard96

    Votes: 66 18.8%
  • Spectre of Europe; Reydan

    Votes: 28 8.0%
  • Judea Rising; Meshakhad

    Votes: 20 5.7%
  • Death of a Republic (A Moncarchial USA Timeline); Schnozzberry

    Votes: 29 8.2%
  • A Most Glorious Revolution; morbidteaparty

    Votes: 28 8.0%
  • Washington Burns; eckener

    Votes: 24 6.8%

  • Total voters
    352
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And the Nominees Are:

Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline; Earl Marshal

The Napolead: What if Napoleon Won the War in Russia?; BiteNibbleChomp

King Theodore's Corsica; Carp

Miranda's Dream. ¡Por una Latino América fuerte!; Red_Galiray

His Truth is Marching on: Lincoln Dead in 1861; Canis Lupis

Revolution or a Victorian Cold War; KitFisto1997

A Destiny Realized: A Timeline of Afsharid Iran and Beyond; Nassirisimo

George Washington II; Imperolo

A House Divided: A TL; utgard96

Spectre of Europe; Reydan

Judea Rising; Meshakhad

Death of a Republic (A Moncarchial USA Timeline); Schnozzberry

A Most Glorious Revolution; morbidteaparty

Washington Burns; eckener
 
Couldn’t more highly endorse/recommend King Theodore’s Corsica. It has the most detailed research I’ve ever seen and the narrative style is the best I’ve seen on this site
 
My Timeline is Miranda's Dream. Por una Latino América fuerte! The TL is Latin America Centric, focusing mostly in a succesful Gran Colombia, the Mexican and Brazilian Empires, and the United Provinces of Rio de la Plata. The TL also examines the effects a more succesful Latin America has had in Europe and the USA.

The Point of Divergence is Susan Livingston, daughter of Robert Livingston, managing to make Francisco de Miranda fall in love with her. In OTL, Francisco de Miranda is known as "The Precursor", an early advocate of Latin American independence who ultimately failed but helped to start the Wars for Independence. Since he falls in love with Susan ITTL, he returns and settles in the US instead of in Britain, and makes friends with many important characters of the Revolutionary Age, including, among others, Livingston, Sherman, Adams, Jefferson, Knox and even Washington himself. Miranda becomes calmer and more rational, and remains a respected if radical thinker, that inspires many in the colonies. When the Wars for Independence start after Napoleon invades Spain, Miranda comes back to New Granada. The colonial authorities there massacred both the Juntas of Bogota and Santafe due to increased fear of radicalism thanks to Miranda, leaving the Juntas of Cartagena and Caracas as the only patriot organizations. Miranda convinces them to unite instead of descending into Civil Wars like in OTL. The result is a succesful Gran Colombia.

The timeline has 42 chapters thus far and is currently in the Mexican-American War. A summary for the first 20 chapters is available. Here's a link to the TL https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/mirandas-dream-¡por-una-latino-américa-fuerte-a-gran-colombia-tl.381533/

Some of the main sources used thus far include:

"Americanos: Latin America's Struggle for Independence" by John Chaasten.
"The Making of Modern Colombia, a Nation in Spite of Itself" by David Bushnell.
"The Battle Cry of Freedom" by James McPherson.
"What Hath God Wrought. The Transformation of America" by Daniel Walker Howe.
"The Glorious Cause. The American Revoluion" by Robert Middlekauff.
"American Revolutions, A Continental History" by Alan Taylor.
"1848: Year of Revolution" by Mike Rapport.
"So Far from God: The U.S. War with Mexico" by John S.D. Einsenhower.
"General History of the Ecuadorian Republic" by Federico Gonzales Suarez.
"Born in Blood and Fire: A concise History of Latin America" by John Charles Chasteen.
"The Independence of Latin America" by Cambrigde.
 
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Getting on the hype train before it is a train:

The Napolead (yes, I'm too lazy to do the accent outside of the post title) is a timeline about the aftermath of a more decisive French victory at the Battle of Vitebsk in July 1812, that sees half of the Russian army shattered and the Tsar forced to sue for peace. The British, realising they have virtually no hope on the continent after this stunning display of Napoleon's generalship look to America for redemption, beating the United States as thoroughly as Napoleon beat the Tsar. When the peace treaty is eventually signed, France and America form the Alliance, which will also include most of the nations in Western and Central Europe, while Britain forms a new Coalition, whose only condition for entry is a desire to see France dead. The two factions are sworn enemies and everyone knows that the next war is inevitable. With tensions so built up, both sides will do almost anything to see the other defeated, chivalry is abandoned and a new total war mentality (such that the Mongols would be intimidated by) becomes the norm, with the nineteenth and twentieth centuries quickly becoming man's bloodiest time.

The timeline was recently completed, covering the period 1812-1990 over about 60 posts. https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...hat-if-napoléon-won-the-war-in-russia.422843/ . I also suggest you read all of the comments too, there are a number of running jokes throughout the thread that will add to your experience :)

Please vote for me!

- BNC
 
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Well, in that case....

Washington Burns

Washington, D.C. is destroyed in 1814 and abandoned (there is no storm as in OTL that helped put out the fires set by the British. This, along with several defeats and a slightly harsher Treaty of Ghent, ensures that Washington will not be rebuilt). Ultimately, it is decided to build a new capital near OTL Cincinnati. The city is named Franklin, District of Washington.

The TL follows all the various changes that grow out of this shift in the nation's political center. Some highlights...
- A continued National Roads network that expands to the present day.
- A somewhat shifting but consistent tri-party system (with the Federalist Party managing to hold together and thrive, after a fashion)
- A civil war with northern secession and a pro-slavery president.
- "better" race relations (with more than one African American Vice President by the 1920s)
- different settlement of the West.
- A more germanized Texas

And that's just a few things.
 
"Ethan Allen returned to England after the war, and the British made fun of him. One day they put a picture of Benedict Arnold in an outhouse where Allen would be sure to see it. He used the outhouse but said nothing about the picture. Then the British asked him about it and Allen said it was a very appropriate place for an Englishman to hang the picture because nothing will make an Englishman shit so quick as the sight of the Dark Eagle."-Major General Abraham Aaron Lincoln during the Siege of Chicago, 1871

George Washington II
What if Washington had a son? That's the POD in my timeline. George II is an ambitious man who strives to get out of his father's shadow. His father was the man who would not be king, that's an opportunity he would not let go. It's currently only in the 1820s, but I have a general idea for how the 19th century ends.
The major differences so far are-
George II forms a friendship with Benedict Arnold stopping him from becoming a traitor who later becomes President.
The Nationalist Party, that pushes for stronger federal power, becomes the dominant political party.
The Second Quebecois War (War of 1812) ends in a Franco-American victory and Napoleon retains power.
Quebec is under American influence and will vote on whether to join the Union.
The Society of Cincinnati becomes a shadowy organization responsible for political assassinations.

Congrats to everyone who was nominated! Y'all have some great TLs!
 
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