Here is my only concern about a shotgun pairing of Seaborn and Hollis: I just hope that if that does happen, it won't start the countdown to the inevitable 2022 election between Seaborn and Hunter. I know that that is a long time off, but I would like to see at least some suspense in the primaries in 2022.
2018 Presidential Election
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Thursday January 3rd, 2019
Maddox Re-elected Speaker
Daniel Maddox (D-IL) has won a second term as Speaker of the House on the back of a near-unanimous Democratic vote that reflected a party excited to return to the White House after an eight year absence.
Only two Democrats, Blue Dogs Ronnie Tucker (D-NY) and Elle Barclay (D-SC), defected, voting instead for House Majority Leader Noah Gellman (D-VA) instead of Maddox. On the Republican side of the aisle, House Minority Leader Mitchell Harris (R-IN) similarly faced only a few defections. Liberal Republican Chris Franklin (R-PA) voted once again for former Secretary of State Arnold Vinick, while far-right congressman Daniel Wellsley (R-CO) voted for another right-wing Republican, Johnston Meek (R-CA).
The final tally comes to 220 representatives voting for Maddox, 209 for Harris, two for Gellman, one each for Vinick and Meek, and two (Maddox and Harris) abstaining.
Thursday January 3rd, 2019
Maddox Re-elected Speaker
Daniel Maddox (D-IL) has won a second term as Speaker of the House on the back of a near-unanimous Democratic vote that reflected a party excited to return to the White House after an eight year absence.
Only two Democrats, Blue Dogs Ronnie Tucker (D-NY) and Elle Barclay (D-SC), defected, voting instead for House Majority Leader Noah Gellman (D-VA) instead of Maddox. On the Republican side of the aisle, House Minority Leader Mitchell Harris (R-IN) similarly faced only a few defections. Liberal Republican Chris Franklin (R-PA) voted once again for former Secretary of State Arnold Vinick, while far-right congressman Daniel Wellsley (R-CO) voted for another right-wing Republican, Johnston Meek (R-CA).
The final tally comes to 220 representatives voting for Maddox, 209 for Harris, two for Gellman, one each for Vinick and Meek, and two (Maddox and Harris) abstaining.
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Even if Hunter remaines the assumed frontrunner because of his place as Vice President, no one says he won't face a strong challenge from another Republican. Everyone expected Sam to win the primaries easily but he faced an unexpectedly strong challenge from Thorne.
politico.com, Friday January 4th
Riley CoS: “We’ve got the votes, Hunter will be Vice-President”
Matt Shaunessy, the Chief of Staff for Senate Majority Leader Cody Riley seemed to confirm this morning what many expect, by this evening Minnesota Senator Jack Hunter will be the Vice-President elect following today’s Senate vote.
Shaunessy told reporters that following prolonged discussion between the Majority Leader and the transition team that they expected the vote to go ahead between the two candidates (Hunter & Hollis) and that they expected the majority to back Senator Hunter.
Asked about the legal challenges by Mr Hollis he said “we are following the role given to us by the constitution, we didn’t ask for this situation it’s a creation entirely of the Democrats – the caucus is taking our role very seriously and fully intends to back the best candidate for the job and we expect that support to be bi-partisan.”
An attempt this morning by Frank Hollis to have the vote delayed pending his appeal of the remaining states whose electors were not legally bound to the Supreme Court, which is expected to be heard early next week, was thrown out creating the possibility of Hunter being confirmed tonight and the Supreme Court removing him next week.
nbs.com, Friday January 4th
Transition Sources: PEOTUS “Happy” with Hunter
Sources close to the team leading the transition from President Walken to President-Elect Sam Seaborn have suggested that after lengthy wrangling with Majority Leader Cody Riley and his team that Seaborn and his staff have accepted that Minnesota Senator Jack Hunter will be the Vice-President and that the President-Elect and his staff are “happy” with the outcome of the discussions.
A lengthy negotiation over the past week between Seaborn’s staff led by Senior Advisor CJ Cregg and the Republican Senate Leadership have come to agreement over the terms of what such a Vice-Presidency would look like. Cregg is believed to have proposed alternative candidates who could take over if Hunter were to resign but that was rejected out of hand by the GOP.
Although no confirmation of the terms will be made public it has been suggested that Hunter will resign from the Republican Party and serve the term as an independent. In return he will take on an active role within the administration and manage policy portfolio in “areas where his views align with the President”.
The move is designed to avoid a convoluted structure of Government with Democratic sources suggesting that either Secretary of State August Adair or House Speaker Daniel Maddox would take on a more executive role as a pseudo Vice-President.
Those close to the negotiations indicated that the President-Elect wants to avoid a side lined VP with an enormous profile constantly undermining the administration. A senior source said “I think it’s a case of keeping your enemies closer and trying, as best as possible, not to anoint a Republican President in waiting.”
Transition Sources: PEOTUS “Happy” with Hunter
Sources close to the team leading the transition from President Walken to President-Elect Sam Seaborn have suggested that after lengthy wrangling with Majority Leader Cody Riley and his team that Seaborn and his staff have accepted that Minnesota Senator Jack Hunter will be the Vice-President and that the President-Elect and his staff are “happy” with the outcome of the discussions.
A lengthy negotiation over the past week between Seaborn’s staff led by Senior Advisor CJ Cregg and the Republican Senate Leadership have come to agreement over the terms of what such a Vice-Presidency would look like. Cregg is believed to have proposed alternative candidates who could take over if Hunter were to resign but that was rejected out of hand by the GOP.
Although no confirmation of the terms will be made public it has been suggested that Hunter will resign from the Republican Party and serve the term as an independent. In return he will take on an active role within the administration and manage policy portfolio in “areas where his views align with the President”.
The move is designed to avoid a convoluted structure of Government with Democratic sources suggesting that either Secretary of State August Adair or House Speaker Daniel Maddox would take on a more executive role as a pseudo Vice-President.
Those close to the negotiations indicated that the President-Elect wants to avoid a side lined VP with an enormous profile constantly undermining the administration. A senior source said “I think it’s a case of keeping your enemies closer and trying, as best as possible, not to anoint a Republican President in waiting.”
Friday, January 4th 2018
Welcome the final installment of NBS' Decision 2018. After many months of campaigning and even a few afterwords, the 2018 presidential election will finally end today with the meeting of the Electoral College and the Senate vote between Democratic vice presidential nominee Franklin Hollis and Republican vice presidential nominee Jack Hunter.
Vice President Elizabeth Clark, in her role as President of the Senate, has just finished overseeing the counting of the Electoral College votes. With no state's electoral votes being rejected or even contested by Congress, the certified results are:
President of the United States
Sam Seaborn (D-CA): 274
Henry Shallick (R-MO): 264
Vice President of the United States
Jack Hunter (R-MN): 264
Franklin Hollis (D-NY): 156
Andrew Thorn (D-NY): 85
Rudi Robinson (D-IN): 20
Paris Stray (D-ME): 5
William Wiley (D-WA): 5
Mark Katzenmoyer (D-WI): 2
Kate Crossley (D-NJ): 1
Sam Seaborn (D-CA): 274
Henry Shallick (R-MO): 264
Vice President of the United States
Jack Hunter (R-MN): 264
Franklin Hollis (D-NY): 156
Andrew Thorn (D-NY): 85
Rudi Robinson (D-IN): 20
Paris Stray (D-ME): 5
William Wiley (D-WA): 5
Mark Katzenmoyer (D-WI): 2
Kate Crossley (D-NJ): 1
Vice President Clark has just certified the election of Sam Seaborn as the 46th President of the United States for the term beginning on January 20. She has declared that no candidate has received the necessary 270 electoral votes to become vice president. Per the terms of the Twelfth Amendment, the vice president has dissolved the joint session and ordered the Senate to return to its chambers to begin voting between the candidates with the most electoral votes for vice president, Hollis and Hunter.
We will begin posting live results as soon as the Senate reconvenes in its own chambers for this extraordinary vote.
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Hate to be the spoiler yet again, but Sam Seaborn has received 274 EV, but Henry Shallick 266? The revised number should be 264 for Shallick.
LIVE: Senate Vote For Vice President
The Senate has convened in the special election for vice president with all 100 senators present. Senator Jack Hunter (R-MN) is on the Senate floor and is expected to vote for himself, while Democratic vice presidential nominee Franklin Hollis is in the gallery.
A roll call vote of each senator and their vote for vice president will begin shortly.
LIVE: Senate Vote For Vice President
Bowles (D-KY): Hunter
Bradley (R-IA): Hunter
Bradshaw (D-WI): Hollis
Breech (D-HI): Hollis
Bryce (D-IL): Hollis
Buchanan (R-VA): Hunter
Burrell (D-NY): Hollis
Cabrera (R-CO): Hunter
Cantina (R-AK): Hunter
Carey (R-AR): Hunter
Carluke (R-IN): Hunter
Casey (D-CT): Hollis
Cassidy (R-PA): Hunter
Chantler (R-ND): Hunter
Choate (R-MS): Hunter
Clarke (R-WI): Hunter
Clausen (D-PA): Hollis
Crossley (D-NJ): Hollis
Cumberland (R-TX): Hunter
Daniel (R-NE): Hunter
Hunter (R-MN): 13 votes
Hollis (D-NY): 7 votes
Hollis (D-NY): 7 votes
LIVE: Senate Vote For Vice President
Denning (D-OK): Hunter
Derrick (D-MD): Hollis
DeSantos (D-FL): Hollis
DiMeo (R-ID): Hunter
George (R-NE): Hunter
Elderton (R-UT): Hunter
Englemann (D-NH): Hollis
Fitzsimmons (D-MA): Hollis
Forrester (R-GA): Hunter
Fulton (R-SD): Hunter
Garland (R-AL): Hunter
Garrison (R-OH): Hunter
Gibson (R-ID): Hunter
Greys (D-OR): Hollis
Hammond (R-TN): Hunter
Harris (R-WY): Hunter
Hedrick (R-WV): Hunter
Henderson (R-MO): Hunter
Heston (R-UT): Hunter
Howard (D-WA): Hollis
Hunter (R-MN): 27 votes
Hollis (D-NY): 13 votes
Hollis (D-NY): 13 votes
LIVE: Senate Vote For Vice President
Hunter (R-MN): Hunter
Huntingdon (D-RI): Hollis
Huntington (D-NV): Hollis
Irving (R-IL): Hunter
Jenkins (D-NJ): Hollis
Joeckler (R-IA): Hunter
Katt (D-ME): Hollis
Kershaw (D-CA): Hollis
Kuhio (D-HI): Hollis
Lancaster (R-KY): Hunter
Layton (R-NC): Hunter
Lobell (R-GA): Hunter
Lyndell (D-MA): Hollis
Mansfield (D-MN): Hollis
Maxwell (R-SC): Hunter
McAuley (D-DE): Hollis
McClay (R-FL): Hunter
McClelland (D-MD): Hollis
McCord (D-SC): Hunter
McKenna (D-DE): Hollis
Hunter (R-MN): 36 votes
Hollis (D-NY): 24 votes
Hollis (D-NY): 24 votes
LIVE: Senate Vote For Vice President
McMichael (D-AZ): Hollis
McNamara (R-MS): Hunter
Mears (D-WV): Hunter
Morrison (R-LA): Hunter
Morton (R-WY): Hunter
Muller (R-ND): Hunter
Nerdlinger (D-VT): Hollis
Newell (D-CO): Hunter
Norton-Stewart (R-OH): Hunter
O’Brien (D-VT): Hollis
Reeseman (D-MI): Hollis
Remick (D-LA): Hollis
Riley (R-AL): Hunter
Ritter (D-NM): Hollis
Roanoke (R-OK): Hunter
Roberts (R-TX): Hunter
Robinson (D-IN): Hollis
Rodrigues (D-AZ): Hollis
Rojas (R-NM): Hunter
Ryan (R-OR): Hunter
Hunter (R-MN): 48 votes
Hollis (D-NY): 32 votes
Hollis (D-NY): 32 votes
LIVE: Senate Vote For Vice President
Sattler (R-NC): Hunter
Shallick (R-MO): Hunter
Simon (R-SD): Hunter
Smith (D-AR): Hunter
Spencer (D-NV): Hollis
Stacy (R-TN): Hunter
Starkey (D-MT): Hollis
Taglio (R-KS): Hunter
Thomas (R-MI): Hunter
Thorn (D-NY): Hollis
Thornton (D-VA): Hollis
Tillman (D-CA): Hollis
Van Dorn (D-CT): Hollis
Velasquez (D-RI): Hollis
Wheeler (R-AK): Hunter
Wiley (D-WA): Hollis
Wilkins (R-NH): Hunter
Wilkinson (R-KS): Hollis
Wilson (D-ME): Hollis
Wirth (R-MT): Hollis
Hunter (R-MN): 57 votes
Hollis (D-NY): 43 votes
Jack Hunter has been elected the 51st Vice President of the United States
Hollis (D-NY): 43 votes
Jack Hunter has been elected the 51st Vice President of the United States
Well at least Sam will be going in with a Vice President. Can't say the same for Santos.
A big thank you to @lord caedus for handling the live coverage of the Senate vote today.
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Friday, January 4th, 2018
Hunter offers thanks, pledges to work with Seaborn as Hollis concedes
Vice President-elect Jack Hunter addressed the press corps a little while ago after winning the Senate vote to be vice president, thanking his supporters and pledging to work with President-elect Sam Seaborn.
"I am forever indebted to the people who made this possible," Hunter said. "My friend Henry Shallick for choosing me to be vice president, the wonderful people who supported us throughout our campaign and at the ballot box, the people of Minnesota for believing in me enough to give me two terms in the Senate, and my wife and rock, Amy, mother of our three wonderful children." Hunter also tackled the unique circumstances that had led up to his election. "This last election has resulted in a president with his opponent's running mate as his vice president. I can't deny that President-elect Seaborn and I have very different politics. But I can pledge to you today that I will work with him to help keep this country going in the right direction."
Hunter also praised the man he defeated, tech billionaire Franklin Hollis, whose controversial nomination led to the Electoral College defections that resulted in the Senate vote. "Franklin Hollis ran a remarkable campaign for a man who had never been involved in electoral politics before last summer. I remain greatly impressed with him and his work both in the private sector and as a humanitarian. I wish him well in whatever endeavor he wishes to purse after this."
Hollis, who was on hand to witness the vote, delivered a brief concession speech, thanking, among others, President-elect Seaborn and incoming presidential senior advisor C.J. Cregg and wished the vice president-elect "godspeed". Reports also indicate that Hollis has directed his attorneys to withdraw lawsuits challenging the electoral college delegations of several states whose Democratic electors voted for someone else for vice president.
President-elect Seaborn's office released a statement congratulating Vice President-elect Hunter and praised Hollis for his "grace" and "selfless service". It is unknown if Hollis will be offered an alternate position within the Seaborn administration or if he will return to the private sector.
Friday, January 4th, 2018
Hunter offers thanks, pledges to work with Seaborn as Hollis concedes
Vice President-elect Jack Hunter addressed the press corps a little while ago after winning the Senate vote to be vice president, thanking his supporters and pledging to work with President-elect Sam Seaborn.
"I am forever indebted to the people who made this possible," Hunter said. "My friend Henry Shallick for choosing me to be vice president, the wonderful people who supported us throughout our campaign and at the ballot box, the people of Minnesota for believing in me enough to give me two terms in the Senate, and my wife and rock, Amy, mother of our three wonderful children." Hunter also tackled the unique circumstances that had led up to his election. "This last election has resulted in a president with his opponent's running mate as his vice president. I can't deny that President-elect Seaborn and I have very different politics. But I can pledge to you today that I will work with him to help keep this country going in the right direction."
Hunter also praised the man he defeated, tech billionaire Franklin Hollis, whose controversial nomination led to the Electoral College defections that resulted in the Senate vote. "Franklin Hollis ran a remarkable campaign for a man who had never been involved in electoral politics before last summer. I remain greatly impressed with him and his work both in the private sector and as a humanitarian. I wish him well in whatever endeavor he wishes to purse after this."
Hollis, who was on hand to witness the vote, delivered a brief concession speech, thanking, among others, President-elect Seaborn and incoming presidential senior advisor C.J. Cregg and wished the vice president-elect "godspeed". Reports also indicate that Hollis has directed his attorneys to withdraw lawsuits challenging the electoral college delegations of several states whose Democratic electors voted for someone else for vice president.
President-elect Seaborn's office released a statement congratulating Vice President-elect Hunter and praised Hollis for his "grace" and "selfless service". It is unknown if Hollis will be offered an alternate position within the Seaborn administration or if he will return to the private sector.