2018 Presidential Election

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Friday December 28th 2018

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Heilemann appoints Tilman to the Senate

California Governor Abbie Heilemann has confirmed in the last few minutes that she has appointed former Governor Gabe Tillman to fill the seat vacancy created by Sam Seaborn winning the Presidency.

Tilman had been regarded by the bookies as third favourite behind Congressman Guillermo Augusto and State AG Ronnie Reynolds. Augusto who is 72 is believed to have told Heilemann that he would only serve until the special election in 2020, whilst Reynolds said he wanted to remain as AG. Tilman who had gone into television broadcasting since leaving politics just under a decade ago. He had flirted with running for the Democratic Presidential nomination in 2014, and was vetted for Vice-President following Eric Bakers resignation in 2009. Tilman was a surrogate for the Seaborn campaign after ending his media commitments in 2016.

Gabe Tilman campaigning for Sam Seaborn in Oregon back in October.
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I'm really interested in seeing how this Hollis mess is going to be sorted out, since President-Elect Seaborn is going to have to spend a lot of his political capital on getting his cabinet approved quickly, especially Abbey Bartlet's nomination.
 
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Sunday December 30th 2018

Seaborn "resigned to have Hunter as Vice-President"

Sources from within the Seaborn transition team have told NBS that the President-Elect is "resigned" to having Republican Jack Hunter as his Vice-President ahead of a likely vote in the Senate this coming Friday.

" The Hollis team is doing everything it can to challenge the results, but it is getting frankly nowhere near getting electors votes declared invalid, the only hope is that they are now trying to get two Democrat Senators to put in a legal challenge ahead of the Electoral vote confirmation on Friday, trouble is no-one seems willing to do so".

There are also rumours that the President-Elect is preparing a meeting with Senator Hunter this week prior to the Senate vote, rumours of this prompted rumours that Seaborn was going to ask Hunter to withdraw from the process, but this has been rubbished by transition sources "no chance, the President-Elect is prepared to work within the confines of the constitution , and wants to try and get Hunter on-side from the start".
 
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Well there is one upside to Jack Hunter in the Vice Presidency, the Senate is less Republican, he will have to resign his senate seat, the Democratic governor, Jarrod Daniels appoints his replacement.
 
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Well there is one upside to Jack Hunter in the Vice Presidency, the Senate is less Republican, he will have to resign his senate seat, the Democratic governor, Jarrod Daniels appoints his replacement.

A good point, but in the event he needs a tiebreaker having Hunter as Vice President is going to be an issue.
 
A good point, but in the event he needs a tiebreaker having Hunter as Vice President is going to be an issue.

Jack Hunter is a Machiavellian madman. He's been manipulating everything behind-the-scenes. The fact that he's being played by Ed Helms now, and I imagine him acting a little goofy and bewildered at times, makes this even more apparent.
 
If Hollis was somehow convinced to see sense and respectfully withdraw his name from the process could Seaborn name another individual for the electors to vote on? I appreciate this is incredibly unlikely at this point, I’m just interested in the process.
 
If Hollis was somehow convinced to see sense and respectfully withdraw his name from the process could Seaborn name another individual for the electors to vote on? I appreciate this is incredibly unlikely at this point, I’m just interested in the process.

It's too late for that.
 
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I know people will be looking forward to this coming Friday at the Vice-Presidential vote in the Senate.
I will be travelling for around five hours on Friday, so not sure for certain when I will be able to post the days events, but it will sometime during Friday.
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It's too late for that.

The Electors have voted. It is conceivable, but potentially unconstitutional for Hollis to step down and have his votes declared invalid somehow, meaning Hunter and Thorn would be the top two vote getters, and the election would be betwixt those two. The Republicans control the Senate, but concessions can be made and the fact that Seaborn won the election is a factor that may make a few moderates vote strategically. If Thorn were to resign right now, Governor Cole of New York has about 31 hours to appoint a Republican replacement Senator before the new Democratic Governor is inaugurated.

There's a 2006 precedent here, an election with only one valid candidate (Sullivan) elected by the Electoral College who must've somehow stood down in order to allow Baker to be appointed and confirmed. The Constitution doesn't say anything about having to accept the nomination, and I don't see where Sullivan and Hollis could declare treason against the United States or renounce their national born citizenship to get out of this. Maybe a temporary residency change? I don't know what the Sullivan fix is here, and I previously just assumed that Congress declined to certify the votes and/or call for a contingent election in '06 (they're going to have to now).
 
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Country Profile


<Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic (1936 - 1991) - Republic of Kazakhstan (1991 - ) >

Capital: Astana
Official Languages: Kazakh (national), Russian (used as official)
Ethnic groups: 66.5% Kazakh, 20.6% Russian, 12.9% other
Government: Unitary presidential republic
Population: 18,311,700 (2018 estimate)
Currency: Kazakhistani tenge

President: Erik Tuleev
Prime Minister: Tomar Sarsenbaev
Legislature: Majilis

History:

...After declaring itself autonomous within the Soviet Union, Kazakhstan became the last Soviet republic to declare independence, less than a week before the Soviet Union dissolved in December 1991. President Rushan Issetov transformed Kazakhstan from a communist republic to a democratic one, at least in name. In reality, Issetov kept most of the old Soviet-style institutions and top-down power structure but gave them a veneer of democracy, with elections marked by irregularities, a closely-monitored press that saw opposition newspapers and journals frequently shuttered, and decision-making centralized in Astana at the expense of the various regions.

Issetov became one of the most visible post-Soviet leaders due to Kazakhstan's massive energy reserves and for inheriting over 1,000 nuclear weapons after the fall of the Soviet Union, which were eventually transferred to Russia in 1995 and then dismantled. Despite ties made in the Soviet era between the Kazakh elite and the new Russian elite under Presidents Glaskov and Chigorin, Issetov's nationalist beliefs led to him beginning to take a more independent line as his time in power increased. Following his third and final election victory in 2005, Issetov began negotiations with China for the construction of a new oil pipeline from Kazakh oil fields to the growing People's Republic.

...The prospect of the most populous and wealthiest of the former Soviet republics in Central Asia becoming allied to China alarmed many in the Kremlin. According to former President Chigurin after his removal from power, rogue elements of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (Sluzhba vneshney razvedki or SVR) were responsible for what happened on 17 September 2006. As he was leaving a meeting in downtown Astana, President Issetov was gunned down by an unknown assassin, throwing the country into chaos. Per the constitution, Prime Minister Artyom Tarimov became acting president and elections were scheduled for October.

Tarimov, unlike Issetov, was regarded at best as sympathetic to Russian interests and at worst as a Russian puppet by both international observers and the Kazakh people alike. Quickly seizing the party apparatus of Issetov's Nur Oltan ("Radiant Fatherland") Party, Tarimov got the Majilis (national parliament) to delay the new election, then cancelled talks with China over the proposed pipeline and expelled the Chinese delegation from the country. Although Tarimov's actions were praised by the minority of ethnic Russians within Kazakhstan, they infuriated almost everyone else and widespread protests began across the country; pro-democracy activists demanded free elections to decide Issetov's successor, nationalists were furious at the naked caving to Russian interests over their country's own, and ethnic Chinese because they feared Issetov's assassination had marked the first step towards their expulsion or liquidation. It was the latter group that turned violent in Alma Ata and the harsh response of the riot police left over 200 dead or injured.

The riot resulted in both Russia and China massing troops on the border and Russian convoys began to enter Kazakhstan, allegedly at Tarimov's request. The intervention of American President Josiah Bartlet prevented Chinese entry into Kazakhstan temporarily and halted the Russian advance while the delayed elections were hastily scheduled. The 2006 election saw widespread beatings, harassment and arrest of pro-democracy activists that ensured that Tarimov was easily elected to a full term as president. Ruling the election illegitimate, China then invaded Kazakhstan and it appeared as if the two nuclear powers would meet in central Kazakhstan and bring about a nuclear war. It was only a quick US-led NATO intervention that planted tens of thousands of (mostly) American troops between the two armies that war was averted...

The three invasions splintered the nation for three years, with the American, Chinese and Russians all separately dealing with warlords who set up local fiefdoms in remote areas at the edge of the three foreign powers' control as well as attacks by Kazakh insurgents enraged by the effective partition and occupation of their country. Although Tarimov remained president, his naked Russian sympathies meant that he was sidelined in favor of his prime minister, Kairat Muslin, a technocrat who was acceptable to all sides to administer the Kazakh government during the occupation. Negotiations over Kazakhstan's natural resources, regional allegiances and form of government went through several false starts, including most notably, with all four sides coming tantalizingly close to a deal in 2008 before it fell apart. The implementation of the Antwerp Plan beginning in 2010 resulted in the restoration of Kazakh self-government and withdrawal of NATO, Russian and Chinese troops...

The 2010 election was contested by 12 candidates, with Tarimov not running as a precondition to ending the conflict. The surprise first-round winner was Erik Tuleev, the former Minister of Energy during Muslin's technocratic government. Elected based on his personal charisma, and brand of muscular nationalism, Tuleev consolidated his supporters into the Nurly Zhol ("Bright Path") Party a year into his presidency and began overseeing the implementation of the terms of the Antwerp Plan agreed upon by Tarimov: beginning the devolution of more powers to the regions, starting construction of a Kazakhstan-China pipeline that was completed in 2016, and committing Kazakhstan to a policy of neutrality between Russia and China. After extensive debate, Tuleev also announced that the government would transition from using the Cyrillic alphabet to write in the Kazakh language to the Latin alphabet, with the goal to be complete by 2025...

Tuleev won a second term handily in 2015, even after an internal Russian dispute between President Valery Davydov and his predecessor Pyotir Chigorin spiraled into another crisis that nearly caused yet another invasion of Kazakhstan by its two nuclear-armed neighbors. But his party failed to maintain its majority in the Majilis during the concurrent legislative elections. A snap election for that body in 2017 resulted in further losses to Nurly Zhol as the National Social Democratic Party (NSDP) gained a plurality of seats and its leader Tomar Sarsenbaev was named prime minister...

According to the Kazakh constitution, Tuleev is ineligible to run in the next presidential election (scheduled for 2020), but given that he has not indicated a preference for who should succeed him and Kazakhstan's short history with democracy, regional experts are concerned that a "democratic rollback" is possible in the Central Asian state. But opposing experts have pointed to Tuleev's consistent upholding of the Antwerp Plan and constitutional guarantees of political and civil rights for Kazakhs, as well as his party being unable to propose a constitutional amendment to change the two-term limit as signs that Kazakhstan might see the first peaceful transition of power between democratically-elected leaders in 2020.

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Casting
Issetov: Vladimir Tolokonnikov
Tarimov: Farrukh Zokirov
Tuleev: Dolph Lundgren (previously cast)
 
The Electors have voted. It is conceivable, but potentially unconstitutional for Hollis to step down and have his votes declared invalid somehow, meaning Hunter and Thorn would be the top two vote getters, and the election would be betwixt those two. The Republicans control the Senate, but concessions can be made and the fact that Seaborn won the election is a factor that may make a few moderates vote strategically. If Thorn were to resign right now, Governor Cole of New York has about 31 hours to appoint a Republican replacement Senator before the new Democratic Governor is inaugurated.

There's a 2006 precedent here, an election with only one valid candidate (Sullivan) elected by the Electoral College who must've somehow stood down in order to allow Baker to be appointed and confirmed. The Constitution doesn't say anything about having to accept the nomination, and I don't see where Sullivan and Hollis could declare treason against the United States or renounce their national born citizenship to get out of this. Maybe a temporary residency change? I don't know what the Sullivan fix is here, and I previously just assumed that Congress declined to certify the votes and/or call for a contingent election in '06 (they're going to have to now).

Seaborn is simply going to have to accept that Hunter is the next VP. Doing anything even remotely unconstitutional would de-rail the Seaborn Administration before it even begins. As for 2006, as far as we know, the EC still voted for Leo. And even if they didn't, Ray Sullivan showing deference to a deceased victor is a lot different that trying to circumvent the Electoral College for political gain.
 
I always thought the EC elected Leo in 2006 and then the office was declared vacant as if he had died in office, allowing Santos to nominate a replacement.
 
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