2018 Presidential Election

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    Mississippi Governor under fire after signing cross burning ban

    Jackson, Mississippi- Governor of Mississippi Alan Fisk came under fire this afternoon after he signed the highly controversial SB-254, or the "Terror and Intimidation Suppression Act", which was made it illegal to burn crosses and "other objects" for the purposes of intimidation or other terroristic or criminals threats. The bill, which narrowly passed both houses of the legislature by 63-59 and 27-25 margins respectively, has been criticized as violating the first amendment. The Mississippi ACLU has already announced that they would be filing suit on just such grounds.

    In a statement made by the Governor's Press Secretary, Tina Brooks, the governor stressed that this in no way impinged on legal speech. "Cross Burning serves no other purpose than to intimidate and threaten others, almost exclusively minorities." Ms. Brooks stressed that SB-254 "only prohibits conduct, not expression. And, just as one cannot burn down someone's house to make a political point and then seek refuge in the First Amendment, those who hate cannot terrorize and intimidate to make their point".

    Donald Blaum, Katie Hodder-Shaw's deputy campaign manager criticized the bill, calling it, "blatant pandering and a trampling of our constitution."
     
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    Wednesday, July 14th 2019

    CIA Director Robert Bennett dead at 78

    Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) and former vice presidential candidate Robert Bennett has died at the Walter Reed Medical Center in Washington D.C, at the age of 78. A spokesman for the CIA confirmed that the director passed away at approximately 11:30 AM local time after checking into the facility early this morning with an unknown ailment.

    Acting Director Sharon Tabor, recently confirmed by the Senate as deputy director, addressed agents and assembled reporters at the bureau's headquarters in Langley Falls. She called his death "shocking and upsetting", but said the agency would not miss a beat in keeping Americans safe. "Director Bennett knew that the intelligence community is more than any one man, or woman," Tabor said. "While he has left us so unexpectedly, his lessons and the changes he oversaw will insure that his name and memory will not be lost in time."

    Bennett, who has served as CIA director since 2011, had a long public career before coming out of retirement to lead the intelligence agency. Born in Savannah, Georgia in 1941, Bennett's family moved to Birmingham, Alabama shortly after the end of World War II. The future CIA director graduated from the University of Alabama in 1964 and joined the Army as an officer. Spending six years in military intelligence, most of which was under assignment in Europe, Bennett gained an appreciation of both European culture and spycraft. He resigned his commission in 1970, making a failed attempt at the Alabama state house as a Republican. Two years later, he was successfully elected to the Alabama State Senate, and then in 1978, the United States Senate. In a 27 year-long Senate career, Bennett compiled a conservative voting record and made a name for himself as a staunch supporter of Presidents Reagan and Lassiter. It was his conservative bona fides that led to him being selected as Lewis David Eisenhower's running mate in 1998, and led to talk of his own presidential run in 2002. However, the death of his wife Ruth from cancer in 2001 led to him declining to run for president. In 2005, President Josiah Bartlet crossed party lines to nominate him for the position of American ambassador to Germany, where Bennett had spent much of his military career. Bennett left diplomatic service alongside Bartlet in January 2007.

    His eight-year tenure as Director of Central Intelligence, the longest behind only Allen Dulles, was marked with several successes, including the capture of Bahji leader Ahmed bin Talal in 2015, and successful efforts to prevent extremist Palestinian and Israeli militant groups from derailing the Ankara Agreement. However, there were failures as well—most notably, the failure to prevent the July 17, 2015 attacks in New York. Reports stated that Bennett had asked to stay on as DCI until the 2020 midterm elections, a request President Sam Seaborn reportedly accepted.

    The White House has issued a statement praising Bennett as "a devoted patriot and selfless public servant", and extending the president and first lady's sympathies to Bennett's children and grandchildren. President Seaborn has ordered the flags flown at half-mast until Friday afternoon.


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    Acting Director of Central Intelligence Sharon Tabor, pictured speaking at a conference in 2018 (photo by Robin Wright)​
     
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    Is Tabor going to break the fourth wall and say, "My turn"?
     
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    Robert Bennett during a press conference during the 1998 Presidential campaign
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  6. lord caedus Very legal and very cool

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    Thursday, July 25th 2019

    Civil Rights Act of 2019 won't be voted on before August recess

    Senate Majority Leader Cody Riley (R-AL) announced that the Civil Rights Act (CRA) of 2019, which would outlaw discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity, will not be brought to a vote before the Senate adjourns for its August recess. Riley, in a press conference with Senate Republican leadership, said that the debate and vote on the bill will take place after Congress returns from its month-long recess. "We feel that a bill that many Americans feel is giving extra rights for some at the expense of others' religious liberty would benefit from senators going home and talking to their constituents before casting a vote."

    Democrats cried foul. "This is a simple delay tactic," Minority Leader Jimmy Fitzsimmons (D-MA) said. "Nothing more...The majority leader needs more time to corral his caucus into denying civil protections to gay, lesbian and transgender folks and concocted this excuse to justify not bringing [the CRA] up when it was voted out of committee." Ryan Lyndell (D-MA) quote-tweeted Riley's description of the bill with the reply: "Amazing. Every word you just said...was wrong." and in a subsequent tweet, called the delay "inexcusable".

    The bill narrowly passed out of the Senate Judiciary Committee on July 16th, and Riley was reportedly furious with Majority Whip James Lancaster (R-KY) and two of the three Republicans (Rob Buchanan of Virginia, and Dylan Garrison of Ohio) who voted for the bill. The Senate will recess from the evening of August 4th until September 9th, allowing senators to return to their home states and meet with their constituents. Both parties' leadership in the Senate will likely spend much time convincing crucial moderates and swing-state senators from bucking the party line.

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    Thursday, 25 July 2019

    Ahead of the vote, Qumari officials increase security at polling stations after Bahji threats

    With the country's first general election since 2014 taking place tomorrow, the interim government of Qumar has increased security at polling stations around the country after threats from Bahji terrorists to "make examples" of those who the Bahji feel are appeasing the West by voting. With Qumari armed forces on high alert, local police have been ordered to station more officers outside of polling stations in urban areas. In some rural areas with a noted Bahji presence, British and American soldiers have been stationed near the polls as auxiliaries.

    This has not been without controversy, however. Hassan Farhat, leader of the liberal Democratic Reform Party (DRP), said that the visible presence of many police officers outside of polling places could "create the impression...of intimidation in the mind of many free-thinking voters", while members of the right-wing Conservative and Qumari National Front (QNF) parties have objected to the presence of Western troops near the ballot boxes in several rural areas that are expected to overwhelmingly return votes for those parties. Chair of the Ruling Council Zuben Ahmed, whose Reform Party is expected to win the most seats in tomorrow's election, has said that these concerns are "overreactions", and that police officers have strict instructions about their conduct at the polling sites.

    "Intimidation or harassment of voters will not be tolerated," Ahmed said in a statement. "But we cannot ignore the security threat that Bahji terrorists pose...We hope that these elections will provide our nation with a parliament that reflects the viewpoints of all Qumaris who reject the violent, false teachings of the Bahji."

    Voting begun Monday, 22 July, for eligible Qumari citizens abroad. The election will decide the membership of the 74-member Parliament, which includes three seats reserved for religious minorities. The new parliament will be tasked with naming a new prime minister and writing a new constitution.

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    Thursday, July 25th 2019

    Nzele pledges not to run for re-election after months of protests

    Bitanga — Bowing to months of protests, President Uzochi Nzele of Equatorial Kundu has pledged that he will not seek re-election when his term expires in 2020. Speaking from the Presidential Palace, Nzele said that he had "heard the voices of the Kundunese people who cry out for a new generation to take the mantle of leadership."

    Protests began in March, a result of widespread poverty in the nation and endemic government corruption. Nzele and his wife, Adeola Muzenda, have served as president and vice president since Nzele returned to power in 2005, and have reportedly amassed a large fortune by siphoning money from state accounts to their own private ones. A demand that Nzele not seek re-election quickly became a unifying point among protesters, who have created semi-permanent camps in the streets of Bitanga to voice their demands.

    "This is a good first step to rooting out the corruption in this country," Fola Mbaku, one of the protesters, told reporters. "And it is corruption that is the source of all of our economic problems."

    But some are not so optimistic that there is a new era on the horizon. Many remember Nzele's broken pledge to Western powers that he would not run for re-election in 2015, and many of the protesters say that their work is not done.

    "We have learned long ago not to trust President Nzele," one woman said. "We must keep up the pressure on him, or he will break his promise again and we will have to protest again in six years."

    Both Nzele and Muzenda are believed to share responsibility for the Kundunese genocide that saw the killing of over 120,000 ethnic Induye by the ethnic Arkutu government and government-backed militias. Arrest warrants for both have been issued by the International Criminal Court on multiple charges, including genocide, but neither has been to a country that is obligated to enforce the warrants since coming to power in 2005.
     
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    Kendrick campaign "We have the big momentum" with rumours of campaign in-fighting in the Coll Camp

    The campaign team of Labour Leadership contender Oliver Kendrick have been buoyed by his performance in the first TV debate shown live on the BBC last Sunday. "We have not seen anything like this before, that debate was a real game changer" Shadow Foreign Secretary and Kendrick Campaign Manager Patrick Brazil told the BBC last night.

    Kendrick the Shadow Chancellor had been the outsider, but he seems to be making ground on the front-runner and the bookies clear favourite, Party Chairman Jack Coll. Coll seems to have lost ground since the start of the campaign to the younger man "Oliver's vision of change but building on Andrea Benn's legacy, is a strong vote winner, the idea that the Tory party will just fall apart after Richard Samuels retires, is frankly fantasy politics", Sheffield Central MP Norman Pickering told the BBC. Pickering,30, a former Bank clerk who became an MP last year at a By-election, is one of the young MP Labour MP's who has thrown his support to Kendrick.

    Elsewhere the Coll campaign has been down playing rumours on a split in his campaign team, with Andrea Benn's former Chief of Staff and Eltham MP Ryan Arnold apparently at odd's with Coll's Chief of Staff, David Neil. The Lamont Campaign which had been gaining ground on Coll and Kenrick, seems to have faulted after what everyone agrees was not a good debate performance by the former Chancellor, whilst the former Foreign Secretary Rachel Lilburn is agreed to have at least a chance of getting back into the Shadow Cabinet on the back of her performance. Ruth Butler is coming under increasing pressure to drop out, after frankly an awful performance in the debate and is at the bottom of all the current polls.
     
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    Saturday, 27 July 2019

    Qumar elects new parliament amid scattered violence

    The people of Qumar went to the polls yesterday to elect a new parliament that will decide the country's future, with scattered violence from Bahji insurgents near several rural polling stations. Despite the Bahji attempt to intimidate voters into abstaining, around 70 percent cast ballots, an encouraging sign for the troubled Middle Eastern nation.

    The elections, held under a proportional representation system due to the dislocation and flight of thousands of Qumaris as a result of the country's three-year long crisis, has returned a large plurality in favor of the Reform Party, led by former prime minister Zuben Ahmed, who serves as head of the Ruling Council that serves as the interim government in Jabal Nafusah. Reform is projected to win around 34 seats, four short of an outright majority. Two right-wing parties combined for 26 seats, while the remaining 14 seats were won by two smaller parties and candidates elected by the nation's religious minorities.

    International observers have certified that the elections were "free and fair" in most of the country, but reports of voter intimidation in rural areas near Bahji strongholds, and reports of registration issues causing delays in voting in the section of northern Qumar occupied by Iranian forces have cited as causes for concern by non-government organizations (NGOs) sent to monitor the vote.

    "We look forward to standing with the people of Qumar in helping them secure a peaceful, democratic future," Prime Minister Richard Samuels said in a statement today, "This is a brilliant first step towards a brighter path for that nation, and I look forward to working with Mr. Ahmed, who seems likely to return to the post of prime minister in the near future." American President Sam Seaborn similarly congratulated the people of Qumar on a largely peaceful election, while President Qian Min of China used the opportunity to declare his pride in the "soldiers of the People's Liberation Army and their allies in Qumar for defeating the Bahji terrorists" and making the peaceful transfer of authority possible.

    As the leader of the party with the most votes, Ahmed will almost certainly be asked to form a government by the Ruling Council once the final returns are reported. He will have a daunting list of tasks ahead of him: coordinate the formation and drafting of a new constitution, restoring confidence in the central government after years of instability, working with British and American forces to secure parts of the country formerly occupied by China and Iran as those two nations withdraw their forces, and setting about rebuilding a country beset by war and occupation.

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    OOC: Of course, an infobox for the election (provinces are mostly based on the OTL counties in the territory that makes up Qumar):

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    Art Malik as Zuben Ahmed (previously established)
    Ali Saleem as Ismail Awad
    Anthony Azizi as Muhammad Farouk
    Omid Abtahi as Hassan Farhat
    Merab Ninidze as Iyad Midani
     
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    OOC: Been working on a bunch of infoboxes.

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    Cast (all previously established)
    Janeane Garofalo as Louise "Lou" Thornton
    Lawrence O'Donnell as Jonathan Bartlet
    Ewan McGregor as Logan Ross
    Mary-Louise Parker as Amy Gardner
    Richard Glenister as Andrew Carter
    Marcelo Tubert as Saeb Mukarat
    James Earl Jones as William Wiley
    Rutger Hauer as Robert Bennett

    • Thornton's partner's name was spelled both "Marcellas" and "Marcellos" in the old thread. I went with "Marcellas" since that was the first spelling and the most commonly-listed one.

      I put her residence as Alexandria since I figured that would be a place a transplant like Thornton would live, given her history as moving to Virginia to work in Washington.

    • Jonathan Bartlet was cast as Lawrence O'Donnell, as well as Edward Bartlet (Jed's father whose name was established here IIRC). So there's quite a strong family resemblance. ;)

      Jonathan was established as being in Vietnam, where he met his wife Margaret in an Army hospital (a clear M*A*S*H reference). Given his family background and how smart his brother was, I figured he would be a college graduate as well (but unlike Jed, he stuck close to home instead of going to Notre Dame), so he would have been an officer.

    • Mark came up with Logan Ross' biography. The part that isn't listed in the infobox is that he worked as a civil servant in the Foreign Office in France before he resigned to run for Parliament.

      Also, time will tell if he has to fight Secretary Boone on top of a volcano after the secretary strangles the senior senator from California in a misguided rage.

    • Amy had future First Lady Abigail Bartlet as a babysitter, so she had to grow up in New Hampshire.

      I wrote myself into a corner by not including Amy as a senior advisor in CJ's infobox, so I had to get creative. She took over the position of "Counselor to the President" from a character who we hadn't seen in a while for some off-camera reasons.

      The position of Director of Legislative Affairs doesn't seem to be a position that Wikipedia considers high-up enough to include regularly in its infoboxes. Hence why Josh and Cliff Calley's infoboxes don't include it. I decided that Amy, who occupied it but was not also Deputy Chief of Staff, would have it in her infobox, since it's an important step in her advance up the WH office ladder.

      Her predecessor as Chief of Staff to the First Lady appears in the show, but his last name is my own creation.

    • Andrew Carter was established as having been knighted since leaving office. Which means he's the only post-Thatcher PM ITTL who has accepted a knighthood or title (IOTL John Major was the only post-Thatcher PM to do so). Also, he was the first unmarried PM since Edward Heath, although unlike Heath, he had a partner for most of his tenure (Samuels technically isn't married as well, but he is in a civil partnership).

      One biography had him as a councilor before getting into Parliament, so I included that this biography.

    • There were some knots in the Mukarat biography (one said that he wanted to run for president of Palestine when they became a state, then was followed up by him happily being the ambassador to the UN), so I just went with that he went to his role as UN ambassador as a way to semi-retirement after the Ankara Agreement. He became head of the PLO immediately after Farad's death, but the position of President of the Palestinian National Authority required a special election to fill, so that's why there's a gap between when he became PLO chair and PNA president.

      The biography in the old thread established "Saeb Mukarat" as a nom de guerre that he adopted during his work as a resistance fighter, so that's why his birth name is so radically different than the one he's known by.

    • Wiley shares his birthplace with his actor, as well as his military service (albeit that since Wiley is four years younger than his actor, he wasn't at risk to fight in Korea like Jones was). Owing to the long stretch of GOP control over the Senate (1997-2015), he's only the second president pro tempore emeritus (there have been four IOTL).

      Also, since Sebastian Shaw (Pope Paul VII) and Hayden Christiansen (Sean Boone) have been casted, this just leaves Jake Lloyd as the only person to have voiced Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader who hasn't appeared in the story yet (not played since there were three to four actors besides the three listed above to have physically portrayed Anakin/Vader in the movies).

    • I covered most of Bennett's biography (which was mostly one Mark did in the old thread, mixed with some continuity fixes necessitated by the contradictory timeline of when he left the Senate), but his wife's maiden name is an obvious reference to Hauer's most well-known role.
     
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  10. lord caedus Very legal and very cool

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    I said as much in the infobox notes.
     
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    :):):):):)
     
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    OOC: Another set of infoboxes, this time for non-personal infoboxes

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    • A bunch of stuff for the Syrian War infobox was depicted, but wasn't explicitly named. The war is considered to have started with the Syrians helping a military coup in Lebanon, then sending troops into that country. Since it's similar to the Persian Gulf War, I copied the incredibly lopsided casualty ratio from that conflict. Also, almost all of the pictures are from OTL conflicts, except the one on the left on the middle row, which is a screen-shot from American Sniper.

      The two Lebanese leaders, and Allen (the person who was in charge of CENTCOM during the war) are new creations, as is the name for the Lebanese group that were allies with Syria. Hezbollah was never mentioned as having been involved, but considering there was fighting all over the Levant, I'm sure they realistically would have been involved.

      Shishak is the general who launched the coup that overthrew al-Hassan, so that's why he's listed as being a leader of the Syrian forces until a few days before the end of the war (AKA- when he stopped directing military operations in order to plan his coup).
    • The Empire of Haiti was the state that existed after the military dictator Bertrand Bazen declared himself emperor (clearly inspired by Jean-Bédel Bokassa), and ended when he was overthrown and killed. His puppet prime ministers are new creations.
    • Gaddafi was established as having been in charge of Libya as late as 2016, so it stands to reason that he's still in charge IOTL and Libya's flag is still just...green.
    • Afghanistan was ruled over by the Taliban briefly in the background, but they fell out of power to some other rebel group. Gul's father was established as having become president sometime before 2007, when he was assassinated and Nasima took over. The indirect election of the presidency was established as from the last pre-communist constitution, which is also how I figured a woman would remain in charge of an extremely socially conservative nation like Afghanistan.

      The emblem (and the flag that isn't pictured in the infobox) is the same as the one used by the pre-Taliban government.
     
  13. Excelsior Time's arrow marches forward

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    Has any information been previously established about General Thomas Bailey and other relatives of Will Bailey?
     
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    Other than what was mentioned in the show, and excluding Kate, only that his step-sister Elsie was an eleventh-hour replacement as Comms Director on Haydn Straus' 2010 Senate campaign.

    I've been occasionally thinking of bringing Elsie back in a non-political capacity given that she's a former TV screenwriter whose work didn't get put into the show because "it was smarter than the show" and her actress apparently a math education advocate who has written multiple books aimed getting young girls interested in math.
     
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    Friday, August 2nd 2019

    Seaborn nominates Tabor to Director of Central Intelligence

    Washington, D.C. — President Sam Seaborn has announced that he is nominating Acting Director of Central Intelligence Sharon Tabor to become the permanent head of the CIA, with the Senate poised to take up the nomination after it returns from its August recess. Speaking from the Rose Garden, the president praised Tabor as "an incredibly impressive woman who has shown that she is up to the job of running our nation's intelligence agencies" in the wake of Director Robert Bennett's sudden death in July.

    Tabor, who was confirmed to the position of Deputy Director of Central Intelligence in May, is the first woman to lead the CIA, even in an acting capacity. After obtaining a master's degree in international relations from Georgetown University, she worked the State Department under Josiah Bartlet before becoming national security adviser to vice presidents Eric Baker and Wendell Tripplehorn. Following Glen Allen Walken's victory in 2010, she returned to Georgetown as a professor before taking a sabbatical to advise Senator Andrew Thorn (D-NY) on national security issues during his failed presidential run in 2018.

    Senator Dan Hammond (R-TN), chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, said that the Senate would "carefully evaluate Acting Director Tabor's suitability" to become the agency's permanent head, cautioning the director that the Senate recess would be a "probationary period" where "any untoward politicization of intelligence would be grounds for rejection". Minority Leader Jimmy Fitzsimmons (D-MA) was quick to respond: "I don't remember hearing Senator Hammond use the same criterion for the last [Director of Central Intelligence], despite the late Director Bennett having been a career politician who was his party's vice presidential nominee at one point." Most other senators, though, have expressed relatively apolitical approval of Tabor's nomination, with both Senators Ellie Wilkins (R-NH) and Lara Mansfield (D-MN) saying the selection of a woman for the position could "inspire more young women to consider a career in intelligence" (Wilkins) and "allow for different perspectives in national security and intelligence discussions" (Mansfield).
     
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    Middleton undecided on 2020 Gubernatorial election as she campaigns in Oregon

    North Dakota Governor Sandra Middleton said today she was "undecided" on running for Governor in her own right next year. Middleton who became Governor back in January after Jamie Muller won election to the Senate was speaking whilst campaigning for Oregon Governor Walter Collins in Portland today.

    "I never expected to be Governor, although I love serving the people of North Dakota, I am really undecided about next year" adding "today I am here supporting one my fellow Governors, in Walter, a man we need to be re-elected in November".

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    Wednesday, August 7th 2019

    First Lady Lauren Parker-Seaborn announces pregnancy

    First Lady Lauren Parker-Seaborn announced earlier today that she was pregnant, with a due date in the spring of 2020.

    The First Lady, who will turn 41 later this month, announced from the White House lawn while holding the Seaborn's pet dog, Marty. Parker-Seaborn said that White House doctors had confirmed that she was pregnant with the couple's first child. "The president and I are happy to announce that we are expecting a child due in late March to early April of next year," the First Lady said. "We're so happy that the rumors are true."

    "We had always planned to have children," Parker-Seaborn said, but those plans were jeopardized by the discovery and removal of a growth on her uterus in 2015. Parker-Seaborn, whose mother Helen, died of uterine cancer, had frozen eggs for in-vitro fertilization shortly after her mother's passing. The couple used those eggs after failing to conceive naturally in 2016, and attempts in 2017 failed. After the last attempt in 2017 failed, the couple waited until earlier this year to begin trying to conceive again.

    Rumors of the First Lady's pregnancy had begun to leak earlier today, with NBS having obtained unverified reports of the First Lady's condition as early as 10 AM Eastern Time. A White House staffer reported that the timetable for the announcement was shortened dramatically, resulting in the White House deciding to announce the pregnancy late in the afternoon rather than wait until the president returned from a tour of the West Coast tomorrow morning.

    Within minutes of the announcement, the hashtag #fbotus ("First Baby of the United States") started trending, and well-wishers from around the world took to social media to congratulate the First Couple. "We can't wait for Marty's little brother or sister to arrive!" former First Lady Helen Santos replied on her successor's Instagram post, and even North Korean state media congratulated the couple, albeit only hours after stating that the president was "a clumsy and malicious philistine."

    There has not been a child born to a sitting president since 1963 when John F. Kennedy's tragically short-lived son Patrick was born extremely prematurely. Matthew and Helen Santos announced that Helen was pregnant with the couple's third child in autumn 2010, but she did not give birth to their son Andrew until his father was out of office.

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    Any ideas for names yet?
     
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    If it is a boy, I think we could all pick a clear obvious one!!:):)
     
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    Got it.

    SCENE: Inauguration Day 2027. PRESIDENT SAM SEABORN is helping his son, JOSIAH, get ready to leave the White House for the final time. As JOSIAH leads MARTY, now showing the first signs of white on his muzzle, out of the White House, he stops, as if just realizing something.

    JOSIAH: Dad?

    SAM: Yes?

    JOSIAH: You named me after President Bartlet, right?

    SAM: That's right. Both your first and middle names were taken from the names of two great men who helped and inspired me when I was a younger man.

    JOSIAH: But who did you know named "Gerald"?
     
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