2018 Presidential Election

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  1. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

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    We are now like the Queen, we have two birthdays a year!!;)
    This current thread is now a year old plus along with the starting date of the original thread way back in December 2008, that is a very long time.
    Although we have lost one of the long standing members of the team in Disputed who stepped down back at the end of March, I am pleased to give a massive big thanks to
    @lord caedus and @MountainDew17 who have both done some truly excellent writing and work this past year.
    We elected (just!!) President Samuel Norman Seaborn and now are heading towards next years mid-terms.
    With all the political nastiest in the real world, I hope you all like the look the world we have built on the vision of Aaron Sorkin, a world that is just a little bit nicer for all it's faults, and a world where the Presidency is still 100% respected;).
    Right "What's next".

    Cheers

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    You are so right! It’s like a balm to follow politics through this medium, even if it’s fictional. Btw what’s the bio of Jack Hunter? Despite his denials and disclaimers, I have a vague suspicion that Hunter is keeping his power dry with regards to 2022, and I can’t imagine that he won’t run for President against Sam, he may’ve to resign the Vice presidency if he should emerge as the party’s nominee! Interesting times lie ahead! Work on the story is truly enjoyable! :)
     
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    How are Sam's approval numbers looking?
     
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  5. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

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    A happy Fourth of July to all our American readers!!
     
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    Thursday, July 4th 2019

    President Seaborn celebrates Fourth of July with naturalization ceremony, barbecue on South Lawn

    In his first Fourth of July in the White House, President Sam Seaborn kicked off the nation's independence celebrations with a naturalization ceremony for 76 new Americans and their families, followed by a barbecue on the South Lawn for 1,200 active-duty service members. According to the White House press office, men and women from over 30 different countries took the oath of citizenship in the White House in a ceremony led by the president, who was the first to wish the new Americans a "Happy Fourth". Later, with First Lady Lauren Parker-Seaborn, the president hosted a barbecue on the South Lawn with members from all five branches of the nation's armed services in attendance, thanking all those present for their service on behalf of the American people. A pre-recorded video of the President thanking American troops and wishing them a Happy Fourth of July was played to American military personnel stationed around the world earlier in the day.

    The president and First Lady will watch the capital's fireworks display (beginning at 9:07 PM Eastern Time) from the White House. Vice President Jack Hunter took part in his hometown of St. Paul's parade and will reportedly join the president and First Lady at the White House this evening for the fireworks display.
     
  7. lord caedus Very legal and very cool

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    Casting (previously established)
    Jon Voight as Charles Howard
    Celia Imrie as Maureen Graty

    • The Bartlet Library's building is the OTL Minnesota History Center. Its address, date of dedication and logo (which I made a jazzed-up version of for this infobox) were all previously established. I took its architect and total cost from the OTL Clinton Library.
    • Charles Howard is the patriarch of the Howard family of California. There was a bit of a discrepancy over whether he was Ways and Means chair after the Democrats re-took the House in 2007, so I went with him being moved to Appropriations instead so that William Garden (originally Graden, just one of the many games of "name telephone" this thread has gone through over its decade-long lifetime) could be the Ways and Means chair after the Democratic takeover.

      Monterey was in the 17th (now 20th) district when Howard died, but when he was established as first being elected to Congress, it was in the 16th, so that's why he started out in that district.
    • You might recognize the images for the 7/17 attacks from the Boston Marathon bombing (top), September 11th attack on the pentagon (second row from the top, right). One image (second row from the bottom, right) is from a 2015 attack on a mosque in Saudi Arabia, while the rest are from disasters (a steam explosion in New York, an oil rig fire, and an oil tanker fire).

      The US follow-up for the attack was pretty good in the thread, but the Saudi and Iranian attacks weren't really followed up on. So I had to guess total casualties from "initial reports". That's kind of why Iranians account for over half of the casualties since one report had like 400 Iranians killed. I similarly had to extrapolate the number of Bahji perpetrators in the Saudi and Iranian attacks.

      The weapons were only used in attacks in the Saudi Arabia and Iranian portions of the attack, where it was established that the Bahji were involved in a gunfight. The weapons were taken from ones used in IRL terrorist attacks by Islamic extremists around this same period of time.
    • Most of Graty's biography was previously established. The only real thing I'm adding is her successor for Hendon and that she (like Thatcher, who she's clearly based on), she was given an honorary membership in the Royal Society after she was prime minister.
     
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  8. lord caedus Very legal and very cool

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    Special Feature: Congressional Retirements

    The 116th Congress is about one-quarter through its life, and even as action on the Civil Rights Act of 2019 and other legislation takes up the headlines, some members are already looking forward to January 3, 2021.

    As of July 7th, eleven members (two senators and nine House members) have announced they won't be running for their seats in November.

    Courtesy of the NBS politics team, here are the eleven members of Congress who have decided not to run:

    Senate

    KS: James Taglio (R) (in office since 1991) — The chair of the Budget Committee, Taglio is the senior-most junior senator. Aside from that bit of trivia and being able to cruise to victory every six years since 1990, he hasn't compiled an impressive legislative resume. It's understood that he wants term-limited governor Peter Gault to succeed him, but Gault has not stated if he will run for the seat.

    SD: Jim Simon (R) (in office since 2009) — Jim Simon had the pleasure of turfing out then-Senate minority leader Wendell Tripplehorn in 2008, and retaking leadership of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) committee from Nichole Kershaw in 2016. That will have to content the 83-year old as he retires, avoiding what was sure to be a bruising primary from any one of the South Dakota Republicans who feel that Simon's time as passed.

    House of Representatives

    GA-07: David Horton (R) (in office since 1995) — Horton has been a bog-standard Republican in his 24 years in Congress and has a scant legislative record. His successor is almost certain to be a Republican, although hopefully more colorful.

    IL-01: Todd Evers (D) (in office since 1983) — Dean of Illinois' congressional delegation, Evers finally opted to retire after 36 years in Congress after yet another round of ethics investigations, this time into allegations of featherbedding his offices to provide cushy jobs to relatives. The First is a majority-minority (and heavily Democratic) district, although Evers' successor will likely not have ties to the original Black Panthers like Evers did.

    MD-05: Albert Fife (D) (in office since 2013) — Fife is retiring to challenge Owen Wells, the popular "Vinick Republican" governor of Maryland. Time will tell how serious Fife's bid is, but given Maryland's deep blue tint and resume, Wells would be wise not to write off this challenger yet.

    NY-05: James Gatsby (D) (in office since 1985) — James Gatsby will sorely be missed on Capitol Hill, not just by the progressive Democrats who count him as an icon. He's an old-school gentleman (who still wears three-piece suits with matching hats) whose leadership of the House Foreign Affairs Committee has been praised for his even-handedness and mentoring of younger committee members. Gatsby's district is minority-majority and he's expressed his wish for his successor—"whomever he or she is"—to "look more like the median resident" of the district than he does.

    NY-15: Gabriel Martinez (D) (in office since 1987) — Unlike most retirements announced so far, Martinez doesn't seem to have considered leaving Congress before this summer. A few weeks ago, he announced that he had been diagnosed with Parkinson's and would not run for a 17th term. This is the most Democratic district in the nation (with a Partisan Voting Index of D+44), so it is likely whoever wins the Democratic nomination will likely also serve 32 years with little opposition.

    OK-05: Daryl Lukins (R) (in office since 2007) — Lukins has been unhappy with the Republican leadership in the House since Jim Arkin stepped down in 2012 and it seems like he's decided six years under Mitchell Harris' leadership is enough. He hasn't ruled out the possibility of challenging either Bradley Denning for senate or Rob Kenny for governor, and Republicans are eager to keep one of the most prominent African-American Republicans in office. His Oklahoma City-based seat will almost certainly elect a Republican, but almost certainly not one who likes the Thunder as much as Lukins.

    PA-15: Matt Addams (R) (in office since 2011) — With Morgan Mitchell term-limited as governor, Addams is hoping to continue the GOP's hold on the Keystone State's gubernatorial mansion. His western Pennsylvania district is strongly Republican, and a fierce primary battle is sure to follow now that Addams is leaving.

    UT-01: Ford Brimgardner (R) (in office since 1987) — Known as "The Walrus" on Capitol Hill for his size and mustache, Brimgardner is planning on leaving office after 34 years of service, the longest-serving House member in Utah history. His northern Utah district is overwhelmingly Republican, and a crowded primary fight is sure to follow.

    WV-01: Mac Walters (R) (in office since 2011) — Governor Chuck Black scared off many Republicans after beating former governor and vice presidential nominee Ray Sullivan in 2016, but Walters has decided to try his luck in 2020. He instantly became the front-runner for the GOP nomination once he declared. His district, which stretches across northern West Virginia, will almost certainly elect another Republican in 2020.
     
  9. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

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    Wednesday July 10th 2019

    Former Secretary of State and Presidential Candidate Arnold Vinick dies at 79

    Former United States Secretary of State, and 2006 Republican nominee for President Arnold Vinick has passed away at the age of 79.

    The former Senator from California passed away just after midnight local time surrounded by his family, a statement released from his office said. It also confirmed that he had been fighting Parkinson's disease for the past year. His oldest daughter Jennifer said the task of her lifetime would now be "to live up to his example, his expectations, and his love" adding "he showed you could serve and work with people who where his opponents, and he helped to bring peace to the Middle-East".

    Vinick famously lost the 2006 Presidential election in one of the closest races of in the history of the United States against then Texas Congressman Matthew Santos, the man he then served as Secretary of State. The former President announced in a statement "Arnie was a great man, he put serving his country above everything, he could have if he had been a lesser man contested the result of our election, he refused, he could have refused to serve me the man that had beaten him for the job he craved, he didn't. He was a true American patriot of the highest order".

    President Walken who Vinick also served for two years as Secretary of State tweeted "Arnold Vinick, that name will resound through the ages, as one of greatest ever patriots, a man who served his State in the Californian State Assembly, his state in the United States Senate, his party as our Presidential nominee, and his country as our Secretary of State, God bless, Arnie, Rest in Peace, my friend".


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  10. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

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    Arnold Vinick is one of only four Presidential Candidates who have won the popular vote but have not won the overall election.
    1. Andrew Jackson (1824)
    2. Samuel Tilden (1876)
    3. Grover Cleveland (1888)
    4. Arnold Vinick (2006)
     
  11. WestWingNut Well-Known Member

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    RIP Arnold Vinick. The greatest President America never had.
     
  12. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

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    Worth a post, the full Results of the epic 2006 Presidential Election.
     

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  13. ajm8888 That Guy from Minnesota

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    God sad to see Vinick go
     
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    Thursday, July 11th 2019

    World leaders, former presidents will attend Arnold Vinick's funeral

    The family of former Secretary of State Arnold Vinick and the State Department have announced that several world leaders will join President Sam Seaborn and former presidents Santos and Walken at Vinick's funeral in Santa Paula, California on July 16th. A spokeswoman for the State Department said that among the guests will be Prime Minister Gilad Doron of Israel, President Umar Hastan of Palestine and President Ben Sawahili of the Holy City of Jerusalem, leaders of the three nations affected by the Ankara Agreement that ended the decades-long conflict between Israel and Palestine. Sawahili said that "the freedom and peace that the Holy City [of Jerusalem] has enjoyed for the past seven years would not have been possible without Arnold Vinick."

    Tributes to the former senator, presidential candidate and Secretary of State have been pouring in from around the world since his death was announced yesterday morning. President Erik Tuleev of Kazakhstan said that "Arnold Vinick was a great man, whose legacy will be the peace that he brought to the Middle East and to Kazakhstan" for his role in negotiating an end to that country's crisis in the late 2000s. United Nations Secretary-General Renata Barrica said she was saddened by the loss of "one of the world's greatest living statesmen", while British prime minister Richard Samuels called Vinick "a great man" and a "diplomatic visionary".

    Vinick began his political career with a stint in the California Assembly from 1978 to 1982 before he was elected to represent California in the US Senate as a Republican. He served there from 1983 to 2007, chairing the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in his final term in office from 2001 to 2007. In 2006, he won the Republican Party's nomination for president and lost an incredibly close election to Democratic nominee Matthew Santos, despite winning the popular vote. Vinick then accepted Santos' offer to become his Secretary of State. He would serve as Secretary of State for Santos' term and the first two years of Glen Allen Walken's first term, retiring in 2013. He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2010 for his work in bringing peace to the Middle East and Kazakhstan and is frequently regarded as one of the greatest Secretaries of State in American history.

    Vinick will be buried near his home in Santa Paula, California beside his wife Catherine, who passed away in 2004. By order of President Seaborn, flags will be lowered to half-mast until the evening of the 16th.
     
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  15. Darth_Kiryan The Númenorean Sith

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    Ok, for a minute I had to go searching the internet to make sure ALan Alda didn't just die.....

    Thank god he is still alive.

    Ala, Poor Vinick. Ye shall be remembered.
     
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  16. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

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    One of the reasons that we decided to allow Arnie to pass away was so we could give him a decent send off he deserved. It was thought that it might be a bit disrespectful if we just did it when Alan Alda passes away in real life. The nod to Arnie Vinick to having Parkinson's is a nod to Alan Alda's real life fight with the disease.
     
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  17. Darth_Kiryan The Númenorean Sith

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    Yeah I know. That's why I kinda panicked and looked it up.
     
  18. WestWingNut Well-Known Member

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    I did the same thing. I searched Alan Alda to see if he really died. Then I thought Mark was basing Vinick's death off John McCain or even Ross Perot who died a few days ago.
     
  19. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

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    Correct, in both cases, although of course not an copy of either. Just similar.
     
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    Saturday, July 14th 2019

    Swing votes face mounting public pressure ahead of CRA vote

    Moderate Republicans and Democrats in the Senate Judiciary Committee are facing tremendous pressure from their constituents and pro- and anti-LGBT rights activists ahead of Tuesday's committee vote on the Civil Rights Act of 2019. The bill, which would add sexuality and gender identity to the categories protected under existing federal civil rights laws, has been the subject of a tremendous wave of support on social media, mostly from the pro-CRA side, led by celebrities such as pop singer Madison Pope who urged her 119 million Instagram followers to call on their senators to support the bill.

    While most of the committee's 12 Republicans and 10 Democrats have made it clear they will follow the party line on the vote, a few have either not stated how they are planning to vote, or in a few cases, said they will buck the party line. Among the Democrats, a trio of red-state senators up for reelection next year have not said whether they will support or oppose the bill. Rick Remick (D-LA), Bradley Denning (D-OK) and Rachel Mears (D-WV) face daunting odds next year, and in Denning's case, opposed gay marriage while in the House of Representatives and during his Senate run in 2014. On the Republican side, purple and blue state Republicans such as Randall Thomas (R-MI), Rob Buchanan (R-VA), and Dylan Garrison (R-OH) have been privately weighing personal convictions and the political environment of their state for weeks. Michael Rojas (R-NM), whose state already has protections against discrimination based on sexuality and gender identity, has said he will vote "yes".

    Opponents of the bill have tried to put pressure on the six remaining swing voters, with the American Christian Assembly pledging to fund either primary or general election candidates against any Republican or red-state Democrat who "opposes Biblical values" by voting for the bill. Activist Mary Marsh called the CRA a "liberal abomination" and stated that the "survival of the traditional family is at stake" in an interview on Fox News. "This is nothing more than a direct challenge to the traditional nuclear family," Marsh said. "No true Christian can support this bill."

    Senate Minority Whip Sarah O'Brien (D-VT) has stated that Democrats on the committee have been getting "unprecedented" calls from constituents, especially younger ones urging "yes" votes, on the issue. "The engagement on this issue, and the overwhelming support of younger voters for legal equality is heartwarming," O'Brien said. Nonetheless, she urged supporters of the bill "keep calling" until the committee votes on Tuesday.
     
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