2015 Turtledove Poll Continuing 19th Century

Best Continuing 19th Century?

  • Es Geloybte Aretz - a Germanwank carlton_bach

    Votes: 98 29.1%
  • Malê Rising Jonathan Edelstein

    Votes: 159 47.2%
  • The Legacy of the Glorious Milarqui

    Votes: 28 8.3%
  • Eisen, Blut, and Fernhandel - German Unification in the 1860's Beer

    Votes: 65 19.3%
  • Filipinas: La Gloriosa y Más Allá Ramones1986

    Votes: 22 6.5%
  • With the Crescent Above Us Nassirisimo

    Votes: 53 15.7%
  • A Glorious Union or America: the New Sparta theKnightIrish

    Votes: 76 22.6%
  • The Dead Skunk Lycaon pictus

    Votes: 62 18.4%

  • Total voters
    337
  • Poll closed .

Stolengood

Banned
I know that, but my point is that LTTW generally swept aside a lot of other timelines.

Male just appears to follow that trend.
Fair enough. Wish we could break those trends before they start, though, because great TLs like The Dead Skunk (and I mean REALLY great, because it is) keep getting locked out because of it.
 
Fair enough. Wish we could break those trends before they start, though, because great TLs like The Dead Skunk (and I mean REALLY great, because it is) keep getting locked out because of it.

Yeah, fair point.

ANyway, lets look at this differently.

Dead Skunk has 47 pages and has only advance to 1823, from an 1814 POD.
Male Rising has 314 pages and has advanced about 40 years, 1840-1880, i think.

of course if you compare it to say, AGU, which is 93 pages and about 3 years of content - yet each chapter is full of well researched brilliance. LTTW worthwhile content comparable, actually.

But we can compare it to another tl, maybe Dominion of Southern America (yes,. 18th century) which only had about 30-40 words per update at least, and a picture, but produced an amazing tl with fantastic content. And it literally grabbed peoples attention.

FOr me, personally, Dead Skunk has not really gone anywhere. The POD is fantastic, and the few posts afterwards are brilliant, but then it just seems to stall somewhere around - i think it was the Caroline updates - just ruined it for me. My interest died up there as it was at that point it just seemed to drag on.....


That said, most timelines are measured by a content vs content basis, but are based on popularity. Timeliens are popular enough to be nominated, but maybe are not just popular enough to win.

And for me, if there was no Male Rising, the next TL i would vote for is AGU, simply because it is the best tl on the pre-1900 board.
 
Dead Skunk has 47 pages and has only advance to 1823, from an 1814 POD.

Male Rising has 314 pages and has advanced about 40 years, 1840-1880, i think.

1840 to 1970, actually - 130 years. And I expect it to be finished within a few months, so it will no longer be an issue in next year's awards.

I'm not going to apologize, though. These awards are given for quality, and if someone nominates a timeline and others vote for it, it shouldn't be artificially taken out of contention. Also, these polls work on approval voting, so it's possible to vote for all the timelines that you feel deserve an award. I voted for both A Glorious Union and The Dead Skunk, and also for Milarqui's and Nassirisimo's timelines and for Es Geloybte Aretz, which for my money is one of the best stories of early 20th-century warfare and politics out there.

I am, as before, humbled and grateful to everyone who voted for Malê Rising, and I'm honored to have got those votes against such high-quality competition, but I won't apologize for them - they were the free choice of the voters.
 
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Glen

Moderator
I know that, but my point is that LTTW generally swept aside a lot of other timelines.

Male just appears to follow that trend.

LTTW is a monster contender fuh realz, but it is also one that inspires competition, and it's nto impervious (DSA beat it one year, for example) - I also suspect it will be completed some day (DoD was very similar for years in terms of dominance).
 
And to be fair my TL seems to be progressing in real time! :eek:. So you can always vote for that in the next few decades before I pass it on to my progeny to take it into the 20th century...
 
LTTW is a monster contender fuh realz, but it is also one that inspires competition, and it's not impervious (DSA beat it one year, for example) - I also suspect it will be completed some day (DoD was very similar for years in terms of dominance).

LTTW is not a good example this year (seems to lose its nomination), and usually TL over 3 years old only enter the domination in "Continuing" nomination if there is no other TL of similar age to contend (see the Continuing Ancient vs Continuing Renaissance and Reformation situation - in one two venerable TLs go head to head, in another Now Blooms the Tudor Rose squishes the competition - and despite being on receiving end of this squishing, I do not complain - the "trend settlers" with their own pages on TV Tropes etc. are near impossible for "plain" TLs to compete again).
 
Aww...

The only good thing I can say is that I am not the last.

The bad thing (apart from the fact that I am losing) is that even the last is based on my story. :(
 
I do not agree

Aww...

The only good thing I can say is that I am not the last.

The bad thing (apart from the fact that I am losing) is that even the last is based on my story. :(


I do not agree with the position in which the votes have placed his TL, but given the Hispanic thematic and its goal for a better and stronger Spain,
should not surprise its position.
 
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