2010 US Presidential Election

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  1. disputed Well-Known Member

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    Dramatic Week Puts Seaborn On Course for Nomination


    A week, they say, is a long time in politics. Last Sunday, Senator Seaborn’s team took to the airwaves pushing a clear message that they though their man was building significant momentum going into Super Tuesday. There was significant debate amongst the hosts but few could see the week that the California Senator has had.

    Seaborn won 10 states on Super Tuesday and followed it up with significant wins in Washington and Wisconsin and now finds himself with a 300 delegate lead over New York’s Andrew Thorn, who just seven days ago was the strong favourite to win the race. Senator Seaborn took to the stage last night to praise his team and urged his team and supporters to keep pushing to the finish line.

    The Thorn team are said to be “shell shocked” by the week they’ve had - they strongly expected to win in Minnesota, Wisconsin and Illinois. Losing all three “wasn’t even a consideration” according to campaign sources. A poll lead for Thorn in Virginia appears to have all but disappeared and last night reports that donors were jumping ship suggests the race is slipping away from the Big Apple’s Senior Senator.

    On today’s Sunday show’s Seaborn’s surrogates have started to lay the groundwork to secure the nomination. Campaign Chief CJ Cregg told Meet the Press that if they win in Virginia that “Senator Thorn needs to consider if there is a path to the nomination.” Nicole Kershaw, Seaborn’s fellow California Senator said her colleague was “the presumptive nominee” if he wins on Tuesday.

    The Thorn team are not ready to give up, they announced a significant ad buy in Virginia and Maryland to run over the weekend and right up until voting begins. Thorn advisor David Kane said they were prepared to run “right up to the convention.”
     
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    BREAKING: Santos To Endorse Seaborn


    News has reached Capitol Beat that former President Matthew Santos will endorse California Senator Sam Seaborn this afternoon at a campaign rally in Virginia. The news comes as Seaborn edges closer to securing the Democratic nomination for President.

    The rally is scheduled for 2pm and will mark the most significant endorsement of the cycle and marks a shift within the Democratic Party leadership who, until now, have largely remained neutral in the race between Seaborn and New York Senator Andrew Thorn.
     
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  3. KingCrawa Prayed for by a brace of Monks

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    Umm @disputed sorry to be a pain (again) but why is Kevin Khan who was Ritchie's campaign manager now advising Democrat Andrew Thorn? I always assumed Khan was Sam's opposite number in the GOP not an apolitical advisor.
     
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    Changed.
     
  5. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

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    As promised here are the Full Republican results from "Super-Dupa" Tuesday
     

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  6. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

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    Here the Full Democratic results from "Super-Dupa" Tuesday
     

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    Monday February 12th 2018

    Santos endorsement brings crowds to Richmond

    The surpise endorsement of former President Matthew Santos of Senator Sam Seaborn drew a crowd of 15,000 yesterday. The endorsement came less than 48 before the vital Virginia primary which is regarded as "too close to call".

    Santos had not been expected to endorse any candidate, but the endorsement which had been brokered we understand by Donna Moss and the Santos camp (Moss served as Helen Santos Chief of Staff). Santos told the crowd "People have suggested during this campaign that we should be forget all the good works that President Bartlet's and my administration acheieved, that we "move on" well done, we have to build on that work, not forget it, like it never existed, we proven experience, and we need a real fighter of the Middle-Class, and Senator Seaborn is that fighter, and it is my proud privilege to endorse his bid to be our nominee and our next President".

    As expected the Thorn campaign played down the former President's endorsement " President Santos is endorsing Senator Thorn. Yeah, real shocker there. But the truth is, of course President Santos is going to endorse him. He endorsed him because Senator Seaborn is still stuck in the past, just like President Santos. Oh, and did you guys know that Sam Seaborn worked in the Bartlett White House? Oh, you did. Wow, it's almost as if he mentions it every time he opens his mouth" where the pointed comments of Thorn Advisor David Kane.

    President's Bartlet son-in-law and former body man Charlie Young now a DC Lawyer also endorsed Senator Seaborn at the same Richmond rally.

    Former President Matthew Santos taking questions after his endorsement of his Former Deputy Chief of Staff Sam Seaborn yesterday.
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    Former Governor Backs Gault As Virginia Comes Down to the Wire


    Joel McKissock, the former Governor of Virginia, surprised observers this morning by publicly endorsing Kansas Governor Peter Gault for President on the eve of the critical primary in the commonwealth.

    McKissock who enjoyed four years as Governor has been mentioned as a candidate for Vice-President and has seemingly avoided committing himself to either campaign as a result – that silence ended this morning as he joined Governor Gault at a campaign stock near Richmond. The Governor said “as a Washington outsider myself I think it’s important that we get some new ideas inside the Beltway and try to shake things up. Peter Gault has shown so far in this race that he can definitely shake things up, and I look forward to him taking that spirit with him to the White House.”

    Polling out this morning suggests the battle for Virginia is wafer thin, Rasmussen has Governor Henry Shallick narrowly ahead whilst Gallup is reporting a statistical tie.

    After a disastrous day on Saturday the Shallick campaign are increasingly concerned that defeat in Virginia may snowball and that despite a significant lead in votes he may find himself facing a delegate shortfall that he can’t overturn, either handing the nomination to Gault or forcing the race into a contested convention.
     
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    Democratic Analyst: “Robinson Has Handed Nomination to Seaborn”


    Al Kiefer, a leading Democratic Pollster and analyst, drew criticism from Indiana Senator Rudi Robinson today after the accused to the former NBA star of staying in the race to assist California’s Sam Seaborn win the nomination.

    Kiefer said he had conducted significant post vote polls in key states and it was clear that Robinson’s performance had drawn significantly from voters who were previously reporting to be Thorn supporters. He added “It’s clear that Robinson went hard locally on Thorn’s tax returns and played a strong populist card – this seems to have won support from Thorn but he made little attempt to win over Seaborn voters.”

    The Indiana Senator’s team hit back saying “we are trying to win the nomination. Senator Robinson has run an entirely positive campaign, he’s spent time meeting voters and has outlined his vision for a much fairer America – I can understand Senator Thorn being disappointed at how things are playing out, but we believe voters deserve a distinct choice in this race.”
     
  10. Arrowfan237 Well-Known Member

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    Bailey really provides very little to the ticket, though. He is a West Coast Congressman (as is Sam). I doubt that he would really appeal much to military families, even if his father was a former CENTCOM commander. Having two members, and arguably the two most recognizable members, of the Bartlet wing of the party would not bring in the liberal voters needed to throw the Seaborn campaign over the top. Besides, having two members of the Bartlet White House on the same ticket could create the belief that this is "Bartlet 2.0" and will just continue Bartlet's work, which people may not want. Andrew Thorn may be the best VP pick, depending how serious the finance allegations are against him. He brings the East Coast into play and can help bring liberals into the party.

    Just my opinion though.
     
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  11. Excelsior Time's arrow marches forward

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    Robinson is the best running mate for Seaborn in my opinion.
     
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  12. Arrowfan237 Well-Known Member

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    That would be a good choice too. Brings the Midwest into play. I fear that it could be seen as a huge snub to Thomas, though, especially with the report by the pollster.

    Or you just take the straight "House of Cards" route:

    "Sam Seaborn/Helen Santos: Admit it, There Have Been Weirder Tickets"

    Think about it. Both actors have had scandals involving sex and both actresses came across as somewhat cold and uncaring in their respective shows. It makes perfect sense.
     
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  13. Arrowfan237 Well-Known Member

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    So my plan to have all of D.C. get nuked and have Bartlet's ghost lead an army "Mad Max Style" against the zombie hordes who have taken over D.C. would be out of line then?
     
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  14. CalBear Your Ursus arctos californicus Moderator Moderator Donor

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    Probably.
     
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  15. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

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    Seaborn "We have the big mo" with wins in DC & Virginia, Thorn holds on in Maryland

    Senator Sam Seaborn told his supporters this morning in Richmond "We have the big mo" after winning two of the three contests on "Potomac Tuesday". He carried DC, but the shock was his big win in Virginia which was clearly helped by the endorsement of former President Santos in the state 48 hours before. Seaborn won with 53.56% of the vote to Senator Thorn's 34.61%, with Senator Robinson picking up a better than expected 11.84% of the vote. The winning margin of almost 19% is mazing considering Thorn had a 10 point lead prior to "Super-Dupa" Tuesday. Thorn did carry Maryland by it was far lower than the polls have been showing, winning by just under 3,000 votes, a margin of 0.30%.

    The Seaborn campaign was ecstatic, New Hampshire Governor Liz Bartlet telling NBS " As the Senator said we have the "Big Mo", we are proving what we always said when you stay fixed to a message, the people listen, they don't like the rubbishing or downplaying the achievements of my Father or President Santos, they want someone who has proven experience and can build on them" adding "When you look at the math and the delegates and states left, I just don't see how Senator Thorn can win".

    The Thorn campaign was playing up it's win in Maryland, but most commentators see that as little more than a "Pyrrhic victory", although it did stop a clean sweep of the three states. For sources within the Thorn camp, they say that the race is not over, that the states on "Mini-Tuesday" favour them, as do the remaming contests following that, but other than a stunning set of victories for Thorn, his path to victory is very narrow if not impossible.
     
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    Republican race heading towards dead lock

    The worst nightmares of the RNC look to be coming true, after another fragmented set of results on "Potomac Tuesday" left the Presidential contest on the verge of a deadlocked race.

    Henry Shallick had another disappointing night, winning only in DC whilst Peter Gault won in Virginia with just over 0.50% margin but the big surprise was the victory of Congressman William Durham in Maryland, giving him a fourth win overall, by just over 1,500 votes out of over the 461,000 votes cast to defeat Shallick. It leaves him now with 148 delegates. Shallick has just a lead of 36 delegates over Gault, with Shallick on 866 delegates to Gault's 830 delegates.

    To get to the required 1,281 delegates for the nomination, Shallick requires 415 of the remaining 716 delegates left (that's 57.96% of the delegates left), which looks unlikely. It also looks unlikely that Gault could win out right as well (he needs 62.98% of the remaining delegates), but it means the GOP is likely to head to the Republican National Convention in Tampa in July without a nominee.
     
  17. Arrowfan237 Well-Known Member

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    Looks like Durham will be the kingmaker at the convention
     
  18. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

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    Here is the state of the Republican race overall
    1,281 Delegates are required for the Republican Presidential Nomination
    1. Henry Shallick 9,416,343 43.05% 866 Delegates 15 states won (NH, Michigan, Nevada, Florida, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Hawaii, DC)
    2. Peter Gault 7,266,044 33.04% 830 Delegates 20 states won (Iowa, South Carolina, Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Minnesota, Montana, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah, West Virginia, Wyoming, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Virginia)
    3. William Durham 5,131,192 23.46% 148 Delegates 4 sates won (Massachusetts, Maine, Washington, Maryland)
    4. Elizabeth Clark 96,228 0.45% 0 Delegates (Dropped out of the race on Sunday Jan 14th)
    Total Vote: 21,869,807
    Pop Vote Margin: Shallick over Gault:2,190,299
    % Vote Margin: Shallick over Gault: 10.01%
    Delegates: Shallick has a lead of 36 Delegates
    Shallick requires 415 delegates to win the nomination (57.96% of the remaining delegates)
    Gault requires 451 delegates to win the nomination (62.98% of the remaining delegates)
    Durham requires 1,133 delegates to win the nomination (Durham cannot win the nomination outright as the total number he requires is more than the total number of delegates left)
    Total Number of Delegates left: 716
    Here is the updated map
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    Shallick
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    Durham
     
  19. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

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    Here is the state of the Democratic race overall:
    2,358 Delagates are required for the Democratic Presidential Nomination
    1. Sam Seaborn 10,547,409 39.21% 1,820 Delegates 19 states won (New Hampshire, Nevada, Florida, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, , Illinois, Minnesota, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming, Hawaii, Maine, Washington, Wisconsin, DC, Virginia)
    2. Andrew Thorn 10,231,117 38.03% 1,448 Delegates 18 states won ((Iowa, Michigan, South Carolina, Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Kansas, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, West Virginia, Louisiana, Maryland)
    3. Rudi Robinson 5,082,477 18.89% 209 Delegates 2 states won (Massachusetts, Missouri)
    4. Michael Kellner 618,085 2.29% 0 Delegates
    5. Paris Stray 405,354 1.50% 0 Delegates
    6. Kurt Carner 12,335 0.07% 0 Delegates
    7. Scott Bighorse 1,859 0.01% 0 Delegates
    Total Vote: 26,898,636
    Pop Vote Margin: 316,292
    % Margin: 1.18%
    Delegates: Seaborn has a lead over Thorn of 372 Delegates
    Seaborn requires 565 delegates for the nomination
    Thorn requires 937 delegates for the nomination
    Robinson requires 2,149 delegates for the nomination (Robinson cannot win the nomination outright as the total number he requires is more than the total number of delegates left)
    Total Number of Delegates left:1,239
    Here is the updated map:
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    Seaborn
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    Robinson


     
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    The post has been deleted. Sorry for not checking.
     
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