1993: No black hawk down. Insteed "Operation Irene"

What if Black Hawk down hadn't failed? The Somalie clanleades had been captured?

In which way could that had affected the Clinton Presidency?
 
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Well, this would likely work with Desert Storm/Shield to give UN military (peacemaking) operations more credibility, and may have led to Clinton and the European States remaining in the region. One can even presume that Somalia would be in a more favorable situation, and Clinton could have been more positively recieved by conservatives.

Just my 2 cents
 

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What if Black Hawk down hadn't failed? The Somalie clanleades had been captured?

In which way could that had affected the Clinton Presidency?

It probably wouldn't have made a big splash in the news.

Before there were dead bodies being dragged through the streets, it was just one more blue helmet operation handing out food to poor people. It wasn't newsworthy.

It's an important thing to understand about UN missions: 3/4 of the population has never heard of them unless they haven't worked. For every person who knows about Mogadishu, or Oil For Food, they don't know about MINURSO in Western Sahara, or the Canadian peacekeepers that reestablished the ceasefire line across Cyprus and brought an end to the hostilities during Turkish invasion in '72.
Mostly because it's much more interesting and newsworthy to show blood and guts than food being handed out the back of trucks.
 
How can you recognize a country that for all intents and purposes is not really a country, but more of a zone of death?
 
GOTHIC SERPENT

fellas, remember- the hunt for Aideed as conducted by TASK FORCE RANGER was called Op GOTHIC SERPENT- "Irene" was simply the codeword for the snatch op launched on 3 Oct 93...have any of you guys actually read BHD ?
 

MacCaulay

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fellas, remember- the hunt for Aideed as conducted by TASK FORCE RANGER was called Op GOTHIC SERPENT- "Irene" was simply the codeword for the snatch op launched on 3 Oct 93...have any of you guys actually read BHD ?

Hey, we didn't name the thread. We're just answering it. The dude you're looking for is offline at the moment.

And I believe it was: "Irene. Fucking Irene!" Yeah. I've read it a few times.
 
Since America's attitude towards Africa is now not totally soiled because of Block Hawk Down, this could have a big POD now......

......Could the USAF/Army Rangers/Marines have backed up Romeo Dallare's peacekeepers and stopped the genocide in Rwanda?
 
The USA would still maintain a policy of staying out of Africa even if there was no BHD. No major power will risk becoming bogged down in Africa for any reason. The world has learned the lessons of the Europeans involvement in Africa and has decided not to make the same mistake.
 
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