1992 Presidential Election

A possible redo of the '92 election. Clinton was considered a long shot to win the nomination as he was a southern outsider, others such as Jerry Brown and even Ted Kennedy could have won the nomination.

Is anyone interested in it? I just had a random idea seein if anyone else was interested.
 
Teddy was past his prime for '92. Doubtful he would pull anything off.

Still there are some interesting questions regarding '92. Look at Brown, Tsongas, maybe Bob Kerrey. What if Mario Cuomo ran? Al Gore? What if Jerry Brown wasn't so outspoken in favor of Jesse Jackson?

Its hard for me to perceive Moonbeam as being taken seriously for the Presidency... He did, however win a couple of caucuses, but mostly because he hung on for a while after most thought Clinton was inevitable and won support from liberals not all that excited with Clinton's "New Democrat" angle. Sort of like a left wing version of what Huckabee did in '08.

Paul Tsongas meanwhile looked as if he would become the nominee before the Comeback Kid did his...well... comeback. It wouldn't be too hard to find a way for him to win big on Super Tuesday instead of Clinton, if you're looking to tell a story, rather than explore questions.

As far as interest, look at the many post WWII politics threads in this subforum... its a pretty popular subject. Think out your ideas and there will be people interested. :)
 
The one that would interest me the most would be Cuomo. If he doesn't dither, doesn't take his famous indecisive time, I honestly believe he could have been President.
 
Ironically, Mario Cuomo lost his Governor election in 1994 on the day I was born. My Mom was distraught.
 
Cuomo did have promise, but let's not forget that it was actually Jerry Brown who was in second most of the primary season. Had he not announced that he planned on asking Jesse Jackson to be his runningmate, to a bunch of New York Jews, he would have won there and in his homestate of California as well, and very well could have been our nominee and perhaps President. Our first liberal California democratc to the white house. :D

These would be/were the frontrunners:

1) Paul Tsongas, Former senator of Massachusets, moderate, albeit with left-leaning views.
2) Jerry Brown, former governor of California, very liberal
3) Mario Cuomo, Governor of New York, also of the liberal wing and the first major Latino candidate from either party.

Wildcards:
1) Bill Clinton, Governor of Arkansas, very moderate, we have to have the guy that won, at least run. :)
2) Ted Kennedy, Senator of Massachusets, Leader of the liberal wing, you have to throw Teddy in there!
3) Tom Arkin, Senator of Iowa, moderate, Runs knowing he'll have momentum in the Iowa caucus


Others can of course join in the fun, but I think this is the big board. What do you think?
 
Cuomo did have promise, but let's not forget that it was actually Jerry Brown who was in second most of the primary season. Had he not announced that he planned on asking Jesse Jackson to be his runningmate, to a bunch of New York Jews, he would have won there and in his homestate of California as well, and very well could have been our nominee and perhaps President. Our first liberal California democratc to the white house. :D

These would be/were the frontrunners:

1) Paul Tsongas, Former senator of Massachusets, moderate, albeit with left-leaning views.
2) Jerry Brown, former governor of California, very liberal
3) Mario Cuomo, Governor of New York, also of the liberal wing and the first major Latino candidate from either party.

Wildcards:
1) Bill Clinton, Governor of Arkansas, very moderate, we have to have the guy that won, at least run. :)
2) Ted Kennedy, Senator of Massachusets, Leader of the liberal wing, you have to throw Teddy in there!
3) Tom Arkin, Senator of Iowa, moderate, Runs knowing he'll have momentum in the Iowa caucus


Others can of course join in the fun, but I think this is the big board. What do you think?

Ummmm, no. Cuomo was of Italian origin.
 
Also, its Tom Harkin.

I really don't know that Brown could have won the general election. The primaries, possibly. If he takes New York and stymies Clinton's big Super Tuesday victories, then he has a chance at the nomination.

But, after that, you could see a lot of moderates and conservative Democrats flocking to Perot or even Bush. Clinton won with only 43% of the vote IOTL 1992, remember. 1992 wasn't about the country endorsing a left-wing agenda. It was about fatigue with the Republicans after 12 years and in the face of a recession. Perot took 20% of the vote IOTL because there were many people who didn't want to re-elect George H.W. Bush, but didn't trust the Democrats either.

What is interesting, is some of what Brown was saying in 1992 was fairly moderate. He spoke of a well-scaled back flat tax and a VAT. He ran as a populist and outsider, seeking term limits and campaign finance reform somewhat like McCain in 2000.

The problem is the image. Even if his centrist talk was sincere, I don't know that Jerry Brown would be able to move beyond the predefined image Moonbeam, Linda Ronstadt, Buddhist Economics, his weird movie-style campaign infomercial from 1980...

When IOTL he talked up Jesse Jackson in NYC, he reaffirmed that idea of a guy a little too out there to be President for Democrats. It wouldn't have taken that much to turn off the general population. The Bush and Perot campaigns would have been all over it.
 
A Tsongas presidency would be interesting. He wasn't a welfare state liberal, and was sort of quasi-libertarian. The unfortunate thing is that he might have died during his Presidency, as he died before the 1996 election OTL (whether butterflies would've changed that is another question) :(. Who would he pick as a running mate? Clinton or Gore perhaps?

A Jerry Brown nomination would be interesting too. He could use California Uber Alles as his campaign song. ;)
 
Wetbrook, you are referring to the American term of Latin, I refer to the actual definition internationally.

"The term Latino (feminine Latina) in the Romance languages, such as Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish, literally translates as "Latin". (The cognate French term is Latin, not Latino.) Portuguese dictionaries define the demonym Latino to refer to natives of Romance-speaking nations influenced by Roman civilization, and to the natives or inhabitants of ancient Latium (modern Lazio). Italian dictionaries define the demonym Latino as: the ancient Latins and Romans, and their language, Latin, as well as the neo-Latin nations. The dictionary of the Real Academia Española defines ten meanings for Latino, including the ancient peoples of Latium and the modern Romance-speaking European and American nations. In these languages, Latino, just like any other demonym, is by convention not capitalized."


Anyways, I'm a fan of Brown and hope he cleans Whitman's clock in the fall. Last polls had him leading by 6 while Whitman continues to outspend him 3-1 on the verge of 4-1.

Brown came off as socially liberal, and fiscally moderate, however many remembered his '80 campaign where he was a bit loopy and simply put a "California Democrat."
 
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