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Nah, where his body was hung up OTL.
Oh. Very good.
No I meant there was more than enough evidence for the death penalty.
Nah, where his body was hung up OTL.
Franco and Mussolini living together, sounds like a good sitcom.
Not at all.
M in Spain would be the optimal solution for the allies and they would not dream to really push Franco for extradiction.
M's public process would mean making the italian communist party gain votes, and this was not certainly on the allies' agenda.
And I am not even taking into consideration the load of diplomacy dirty laundry that he could make public.
Surely there would be a formal request for it, along with a very clear message that such a request should NOT be accomplished.
In addition to that, Franco felt some genuine gratitude toward M for his help during the civil war.
Yes, but in the harsh reality of the real world, atrocities against Africans, especially those not caught on film, do not carry alot of weight. Rwanda is a good example.The Italian Fascists commited plenty of atrocities in Spain and in Ethiopia.
Yes, but in the harsh reality of the real world, atrocities against Africans, especially those not caught on film, do not carry alot of weight. Rwanda is a good example.
I dont think he would remain in power, my guess is that he would be do a token prison sentence (if that), get pardoned and then go to Argentina or Spain
Well, I guess I was assuming the Allies would ask for him... If they don't, or if the request is obviously for form's sake, then, sure, he could stay in Spain. Would his wife follow him to Spain, that's the question (would he want her to?)
Mussolini not dancing Danny Deever*?
Given how Italy was an Axis power in its own right and not some satellite regime like, say, Romania, I fail to see how Mussolini is going to get any mercy.
Mussolini could be charged for waging aggressive war against Greece, frex. And although Italian Communists may benefit from Mussolini swinging, the Greek Communists would benefit politically from the Allies not punishing the dastardly Fascist who attacked their country. And Greece was the bigger problem OTL.
*Slang for being hanged. I learned it from the novel Starship Troopers.
I am sorry but you are wrong.
The main reason for communist partisans killing M on the spot in OTL and delivering only his cold corpse is that everyone was sure that, if he was to arrive breathing in the hands of the allies, he would stay alive.
Also, the line about Greece being the bigger problem makes poor sense, no offence meant for that
What I mean is that:About Greece, Greece was in the middle of a civil war between the royalists and the Communists. The possible Communist takeover of Greece and the Soviet Union's designs on Constantinople helped bring about the Truman Doctrine (containment) and NATO.
If Mussolini was not sufficiently punished, it would be a propaganda victory for the Greek Communists, something I would imagine Truman would want to avoid.
About Greece, Greece was in the middle of a civil war between the royalists and the Communists. The possible Communist takeover of Greece and the Soviet Union's designs on Constantinople helped bring about the Truman Doctrine (containment) and NATO.
If Mussolini was not sufficiently punished, it would be a propaganda victory for the Greek Communists, something I would imagine Truman would want to avoid.
The main reason for communist partisans killing M on the spot in OTL and delivering only his cold corpse is that everyone was sure that, if he was to arrive breathing in the hands of the allies, he would stay alive.
I am sorry but you are wrong.
The main reason for communist partisans killing M on the spot in OTL and delivering only his cold corpse is that everyone was sure that, if he was to arrive breathing in the hands of the allies, he would stay alive.
Also, the line about Greece being the bigger problem makes poor sense, no offence meant for that
The official position of the CLN (Comitato di Liberazione Nazionale) was that he was to be bringed alive to the provisional government to be put on trial.Sources?
Because AFAIK the reason behind the execution was a direct order by the National Liberation Committee. The same partisan committee that was full to the brim with US and British military advisors...I seriously doubt that the execution of Mussolini was a surprise for the Allies.
The official position of the CLN (Comitato di Liberazione Nazionale) was that he was to be bringed alive to the provisional government to be put on trial
The CLN was a strange mixture of different souls, from Communists to Monarchists passing through republicans and catholics.
As you might expect, the communist wing was made of the most hard-liners against fascists, while the others were less.
The official position (capture, not kill, and have him on trial) was imposed on the CLN overruling the communist fraction protests because of the insistence of the US army HQ
That contrast with the official position of Audisio, the commander of the partisan squad that killed Mussolini: he was ordered to execute the Duce.
Nobody persecuted him for taking his action, you mean.No-one ever proved him wrong, AFAIK.
Strange as it seems he has several sympathizers in the area (salo Republic and suchlikes)It was definitely not a low-profile escape attempt: the whereabouts of the Duce were know by the Committe and, I assume, by the Allied advisors.
No real investigation was made.Even more strange if you consider that no-one proved Audisio took a personal initiative or followed the orders of a specific political party.
And probably he was literally right, in the sense that the PCI gave its own orders to the Garibaldi brigades, and had accepted the official CLN stance only pro forma
Nobody persecuted him for taking his action, you mean.
But also nobody admitted giving that order; more, everybody flatly denied that such an order had been given.
That's official declaration, at least, wether he was given a secret order or not is matter of speculation, but it seems probable
Strange as it seems he has several sympathizers in the area (salo Republic and suchlikes)