1940s Western leaders if no WWII

To a good peace deal without another Great War carnage, of course.

If the PM comes home proclaiming peace only for war to happen anyway which results in a German victory, people aren't going to be thankful about a 'good peace deal'. Britain has been humiliated and it's leaders will suffer. As I said, opinion will be divided enough for Chamberlains Government to survive but there'll be no more landslide majorities.
 

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If the PM comes home proclaiming peace only for war to happen anyway which results in a German victory, people aren't going to be thankful about a 'good peace deal'. Britain has been humiliated and it's leaders will suffer. As I said, opinion will be divided enough for Chamberlains Government to survive but there'll be no more landslide majorities.

Humiliated, how ? The British Empire stands intact, France stands intact, Germany gained nothing more than what many people in Europe thought might be rightfully hers. A fair compromise peace was achieved with practically no bloodshed to avoid a war Britain did not want to fight and had nothing to gain from.
 
I point out to the huge crowds that cheered Chamberlain and Daladier back from Munich. :rolleyes:

And I point out that Chamberlain was a good PR manager who kept the BBC on a tight leash. He handled Munich by playing up the idea that war was immanent and then announcing at the eleventh hour that peace was secure, causing a "Hooray! We're not going to be bombed!" reaction.

Not getting bombed was universally popular; appeasement was not.
 

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And I point out that Chamberlain was a good PR manager who kept the BBC on a tight leash. He handled Munich by playing up the idea that war was immanent and then announcing at the eleventh hour that peace was secure, causing a "Hooray! We're not going to be bombed!" reaction.

Pretty much the same is going to happen when Chamberlain comes back from wherever the final peace settlement gets signed.
 
Humiliated, how ? The British Empire stands intact, France stands intact, Germany gained nothing more than what many people in Europe thought might be rightfully hers. A fair compromise peace was achieved with practically no bloodshed to avoid a war Britain did not want to fight and had nothing to gain from.

Their guarantee to Poland has been completely rejected and they have accepted that, Britain clearly has retreated as a world power and Germany has become even more powerful.
 

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Their guarantee to Poland has been completely rejected and they have accepted that,

Poland survives as an independent state with the bulk of its nation within its borders. The spirit of the guarantee is fulfilled. Not that it was never any pillar of UK foreign policy.

Britain clearly has retreated as a world power

In which way a German Corridor causes the collapse of the British Empire ?? :eek:

Czechoslovakia and Poland were *never* a British sphere of influence.

To pursue a general war is what would wreck Britain as a world power.

and Germany has become even more powerful.

Not anymore than it was inevitable. With a reasonable German leadership at the helm, the alternative is much worse.
 
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In France, the French Social Party, formed by François de la Rocque after the Croix-de-Feu were dissolved, were the first French party by number of registered members. We could well see De la Rocque becoming President of the Council in a landslide come the next election in 1939/1940, forcing the Republic to reform itself into a Fourth French Republic, more presidential, in the same way that the Fifth Republic is. De la Rocque's policies would be nationalist, conservative in a Christian Democrat sense, and most certainly aimed in a pan-European sense.
 
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