1921:The Irish-Scottish Free State

Unlikely but suppose the unionst wanted a to join and independent scotland or acenario of Scotland with its own parliament and being given jurisdiction over North Ireland Ireland on the grounds that the loyalists were Scottish transdplants?

There is a problem with this scenario, namely, Scotland becoming independent in the 20s. With a PoD after 1900 or perhaps 1800, that is Succesful Sealion unlikely,
 
There was actually a plan to have a Welsh Corps in the BEF during WWI, but by the time the idea was suggested, the Army had assigned the battalions to other formations, and stomped on the idea. But there was certainly a conception of Wales as different from England. Indeed, one of the reasons the Army gave for not having a Welsh Corps was that the battalions needed to be leavened with English or Scottish troops to stiffen them. :rolleyes: :D

IOTL though they did have parts of the army named after Durham, Cumberland, Herefordshire, etc... Its not unusal.
Wales was perhaps slightly different to England but it was also sort of still a English region.
In law it was definatly England.
Its complicated.
The point is though it wasn't an officially recognised equal part of the union though it did yet somehow exist...'tis odd.
 
I'm glad there is discussion,I suppose this would be a What If..but it's good that people are on topic. I do think that this could have happened,because from what I read..at the time the Irish could have done more..instead of having their country "fractured"..with Northern Ireland still under British control. So I don't think it's as crazy as some might think...

I Blame Communism said:
Now, we're all being very nice here, as you're new and you clearly don't know how we work. But as a Scotsman I think I'm entitled to fly into a blood-thisty rage and tear the flesh from your bones.

RAWR! BLOOD FOR THE UNION GOD! SKULLS FOR HIS THRONE OF MONARCHISM!

*Chewchewchew*

Anyway...

1)Brush up on your English, dear boy. Capitals, sentences, coherent syntax. I know you hate England and everything associated with it (;)) but either get it right or actually speak gaelic!

2)There is absolutely no chance of this happening, see previous posts.

3) Republics are never better. If you want, you can have the essay which explains why.

4) Query: are you Scots?

Well,it never hurts to ask..and hear what people might think of such a thing..and no,I'm not from Scotland. My godparents are from the UK,and I'm Asian.:cool:
 
I'm glad there is discussion,I suppose this would be a What If..but it's good that people are on topic. I do think that this could have happened,because from what I read..at the time the Irish could have done more..instead of having their country "fractured"..with Northern Ireland still under British control. So I don't think it's as crazy as some might think...

It wasn't like that.
It was a Irish civil war. Some Irish wanted to remain part of the UK, some Irish wanted just a bit of self government, others wanted independance, etc....
N.Ireland didn't remain under British control; of its own free will and after its people fought for their freedom it remained part of the UK.

The only way to get a 'united Ireland' is as a full part of the UK still (not going to happen. The home rule act had passed in 1914) or perhaps technically with the southern/northern united Ireland thing.
 

MrP

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IOTL though they did have parts of the army named after Durham, Cumberland, Herefordshire, etc... Its not unusal.
Wales was perhaps slightly different to England but it was also sort of still a English region.
In law it was definatly England.
Its complicated.
The point is though it wasn't an officially recognised equal part of the union though it did yet somehow exist...'tis odd.

Aye, funny place. When did the Church get disestablished there? Some time in the '20s, I think.
 
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