1914: Denmark gets involved

Perhaps the German Army had made plans to invade Norway and Denmark even before WWI. They might have not put them into action because they were in a 2-front war.

I wouldnt be surprised (especially in the case of denmark), although the plans for norway might be more for war with Sweden, given their recent union...

An Entente attack on Denmark also has a fair chance of dragging Sweden into the war on way or another. IIRC they were generally seen as favoring the Central Powers, and Russia was quite concerned the Swedes might attempt to regain Finland, to the point were one Russian admiral advocated a pre-emptive strike against Sweden. An attack on Denmark might be enough to bring Sweden in, or convince Russia to launch their preemptive attack.

Good point. I'm not sure if Russia would immediately intervene (it depends on the timing of it all), but Sweden may very well side with the Central Powers in reaction to an invasion of Denmark. Does russia invade sweden? Does sweden invade finland (for that matter, would the finns accept renewed swedish control in a parallel Brest-Litovsk?)?

Suddenly, the Baltic is a lot more interesting...

I seem to recall the fact that the US and Canada had plans for invading each other being fodder for quite a few discussions. Making contingency plans for invasions is one of the big things General Staff planning departments do; I wouldn't be surprised if the current US General Staff has plans for invading every country on Earth and a couple of plans for defending against alien invasion.

More than that. IIRC there is (at least) one plan floating around the pentagon with contingencies for fighting ghosts. Plans for all sorts of scenarios have been considered, although most would probably never approach activation (and more than a few possibilities are ignored...).
 
(for that matter, would the finns accept renewed swedish control in a parallel Brest-Litovsk?)?

I believe the Swedes (and the German diplomats trying to sign them on) acknowledged the new reality and the proposals were for the Aland islands and a Swedish cadet branch ruling a Finland in various political and economic agreements.
 

Susano

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I believe the Swedes (and the German diplomats trying to sign them on) acknowledged the new reality and the proposals were for the Aland islands and a Swedish cadet branch ruling a Finland in various political and economic agreements.

Well, then, that seals it. No Sweden in WW1 in my CP victirous timelines anymore! Clearly, the royal House of Finland must be the House of Hesse! :p
 
Do you imply that you disagree with Denmark for all practical purposes beeing a German vassal? :confused:

I must confess that I understand Denmarks situation as beeing so at this point in history, just as much as Norway was Britain vassal.

For all practical purposes, no I don't; but it was certainly something self approved and that is the really sad thing about it. Independent foreign policy wasn't even tried out for fears of losing North Slesvig.



Do you have any online references for "Fall N?"

Its in http://clemmesen.org/ - thats the closest I've gotten to it, except a mentioning in Dansk Udenrigspolitiks Historie - Overleveren.
 
Beside the Danish of government wasn't especially interested in getting Schleswig back at the time, and they took as little as they could get away with.

Quite - and only took action when forced to do so by internal policies!

I tend to agree with Redbeard, Denmark did anything Germany wanted, of course there's also the fact that the German did their best not to alienate us, which resulted in some rather comical situations as when Wilhelm said he felt as a child of the house to Christian IX, and some newspaper satirised it. Of course there's also the fact that among the minorities in Germany, Danes was some of the best treated, yes they faced limitations, but few serious attempts of assimilation was tried.

I don't disagree, I just don't like the word in accordance with the post above.
 
I have a feeling that at any rate, The British and French would need to invade Denmark before the first use of poison gas on the WF. After that date, they would need all the troops that they have. And following the Dardanells campaign, there would be a huge outcry against invadeing the region for fear of a repeat.
 
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And following the Dardanells campaign, there would be a huge outcry against invadeing the region for fear of a repeat.
The most likely timeline would be to have an invasion of Denmark as essentially a replacement for the Gallipoli campaign; it would even have some of the same motivations (opening a supply route to Russia via the Baltic works as well as doign so through the Black Sea).
 
I have a feeling that at any rate, The British and French would need to invade Denmark before the first use of poison gas on the WF. After that date, they would need all the troops that they have. And following the Dardanells campaign, there would be a huge outcry against invadeing the region for fear of a repeat.

Any invasion of Denmark would, by necessity, take place instead of the Gallipoli campaign. IOTL they were considered concurrently, but (slightly) cooler heads prevailed.
 

Oddball

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For all practical purposes, no I don't; but it was certainly something self approved and that is the really sad thing about it. Independent foreign policy wasn't even tried out for fears of losing North Slesvig.

Exchange "North Slesvig" for "the merchant Marine" and you have the Norwegian situation versus Britain... :D

Its in http://clemmesen.org/ - thats the closest I've gotten to it, except a mentioning in Dansk Udenrigspolitiks Historie - Overleveren.

Thanks
 
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