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1898

1898:


In France the world’s first cinema appears and is immensely popular, two months later anther cinema opens in Berlin.
In Asia competition between American and Japanese companies to gain control over the lucrative rubber industry. In Japan think tanks come up with ideas for how to secure their investment in China, which has now expanded beyond the Ito loan. The result is the “Saviour Kinmochi plan to save Japan from Ito”, in which Japan placed operatives across China, linked with many re-formers in order to try and instigate a regime change if necessary. In Japan Ito had become an un-popular man, he had allowed the rise of political parties and tangled Japan in complicated foreign relations with China. There is speculation in the West that Japanese agents assassinated Ito when he is found dead in his home.

President Watsons attempt to get America off gold standard is blocked by the House; the result is a massive dip in value of the U.S dollar. Watson orders an increase in taxation to pour money into the Federal Reserve to buy up gold to take the strain off the dollar. The Populist Party makes speeches on getting America off gold standard, increasing the lifestyle of poor white and black farmers to tolerable and not increases taxation to spend on folly. The Higgs report is ordered about government spending due to be completed the next year.

In Russia several anti-reformists are arrested for plotting to send troops to “secure” the Tsar , to make sure he doesn’t give in to reformists. A less extreme (anti-reformists principles) political party is formed, to counter balance any power the RDSP may have; called the Nationalist Party of Russia (NPR). Political party membership becomes a de facto crime, though some stay in politics it is a dangerous position to be in; this is seen as the end of ‘Michaels liberal revolution’; though it will continue to be celebrated as if going on strong in media.

In France Henri Brisson begins his “socialist dream” several ‘agricultural trusts’ are set up, these buy up vast farmlands and turn them into collectivized farms. There is mass protest at this with many feeling they are losing their livelihood, plans for an Industrial trusts also begin (these trusts don’t own more than 20% of farmland in France.)Work also begins on the Campenon fortifications, a string of trench’s barbed wire, walls, towers, artillery batteries and bunkers completely surrounding Paris; with over 179,000 men to be working the fortification.

The U.S.S Maine blows up in Havana harbor, the U.S and Cuba begin an investigation into the explosion, many US papers print anti-Spanish articles; Watson orders a media blackout. His popularity declines sharply for not making a move against Spain; however President Watson also fears the British Empire and France who back Spain.

In Germany a Jewish man is accused of raping a German girl, the resulting incident created a vast anti-semantic mob. Kaiser Wilhelm calls upon the mob to stop its attacks on Jewish housing, business and people. Eventually the violence stops when German troops are sent in to calm the situation, however in good faith to a promise made to the mob the Jewish boy is hung for his crime.
A French military expedition reaches Fashoda in Sudan, which is claimed for France. Britain immediately claims the territory for Britain, and threaten to break away from the free trade agreement signed the previous year; Henri Brisson and the world begin to see British isolation meaning they have few friends on the board, and decided to chance not ordering his troops withdrawal. The resulting battle is said to be have been even fiercer than waterloo, 3 British Battalions attack the French position with support from a flotilla of gunships. The small French garrison but up a brave fight but was forced to surrender within minutes because of overwhelming British force.

The un-declared war lead to Henri Brisson’s famous statement “The British have attacked, get a warship to set sail for the channel; to give ‘em one for the last 300 years!”. In the channel there is a ship dual between the HMS Shah (a frigate) and the French battleship Marceau, which resulted in the Shahs hull being blown open. Many feel it is the one of the last ‘honorable ship duels’ and a tit for tact battle.

In Algeria many see the crisis as a chance to move against their French masters, rioting breaks out across the country; with several members of the Algerian council of governors being executed. The Algerian council of governors are able to re-take Algiers imposing martial law, but the rest of the country remains in anarchy; loosely run by the Anarchist group Flensia. A German taskforce lands in the country with 3 weeks to restore order (whilst tensions between the French and British remain high), and promise to restore the territory to French rule.

Supplying the taskforce becomes an immediate problem, and stocks quickly run short. The famine of 93-94 still had the country on its knees recovering, this episode truly cripples it. News of German troops slaughtering Algerians gains them the nickname “the Huns”, more than 2 in 3 Algerians starve and the country falls into a deep depression. Henri Brisson is called upon by the party to end tensions with Britain (who’s Mediterranean fleet is stopping the French from sorting the problem in Algeria out) for the sake of the colony.

In Berlin the British and French sign an agreement, the British will gain the benefit of the doubt in Fashoda in exchange for help in Algeria.

Kaiser Wilhelm sees the tensions as an opportunity to break the Dresden naval accord, expanding his navy beyond that agreed. Archibald Primrose promises to allow Germany to maintain a small colonial empire; in exchange Britain will gain Germany as an un-official ally. This is seen as a move towards friendship, and away from the mutual agreement of non intervention that there was before. In contrast Britain also stays in a free trade agreement with France and Spain, seeing this as a counter balance to Germany’s power on the continent.
 
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1898:


In France the world’s first cinema appears and is immensely popular, two months later anther cinema opens in Berlin.
In Asia competition between American and Japanese companies to gain control over the lucrative rubber industry. In Japan think tanks come up with ideas for how to secure their investment in China, which has now expanded beyond the Ito loan. The result is the “Saviour Kinmochi plan to save Japan from Ito”, in which Japan placed operatives across China, linked with many re-formers in order to try and instigate a regime change if necessary. In Japan Ito had become an un-popular man, he had allowed the rise of political parties and tangled Japan in complicated foreign relations with China. There is speculation in the West that Japanese agents assassinated Ito when he is found dead in his home.

President Watsons attempt to get America off gold standard is blocked by the House; the result is a massive dip in value of the U.S dollar. Watson orders an increase in taxation to pour money into the Federal Reserve to buy up gold to take the strain off the dollar. The Populist Party makes speeches on getting America off gold standard, increasing the lifestyle of poor white and black farmers to tolerable and not increases taxation to spend on folly. The Higgs report is ordered about government spending due to be completed the next year.

In Russia several anti-reformists are arrested for plotting to send troops to “secure” the Tsar , to make sure he doesn’t give in to reformists. A less extreme (anti-reformists principles) political party is formed, to counter balance any power the RDSP may have; called the Nationalist Party of Russia (NPR). Political party membership becomes a de facto crime, though some stay in politics it is a dangerous position to be in; this is seen as the end of ‘Michaels liberal revolution’; though it will continue to be celebrated as if going on strong in media.

In France Henri Brisson begins his “socialist dream” several ‘agricultural trusts’ are set up, these buy up vast farmlands and turn them into collectivized farms. There is mass protest at this with many feeling they are losing their livelihood, plans for an Industrial trusts also begin (these trusts don’t own more than 20% of farmland in France.)Work also begins on the Campenon fortifications, a string of trench’s barbed wire, walls, towers, artillery batteries and bunkers completely surrounding Paris; with over 179,000 men to be working the fortification.

The U.S.S Maine blows up in Havana harbor, the U.S and Cuba begin an investigation into the explosion, many US papers print anti-Spanish articles; Watson orders a media blackout. His popularity declines sharply for not making a move against Spain; however President Watson also fears the British Empire and France who back Spain.

In Germany a Jewish man is accused of raping a German girl, the resulting incident created a vast anti-semantic mob. Kaiser Wilhelm calls upon the mob to stop its attacks on Jewish housing, business and people. Eventually the violence stops when German troops are sent in to calm the situation, however in good faith to a promise made to the mob the Jewish boy is hung for his crime.
A French military expedition reaches Fashoda in Sudan, which is claimed for France. Britain immediately claims the territory for Britain, and threaten to break away from the free trade agreement signed the previous year; Henri Brisson and the world begin to see British isolation meaning they have few friends on the board, and decided to chance not ordering his troops withdrawal. The resulting battle is said to be have been even fiercer than waterloo, 3 British Battalions attack the French position with support from a flotilla of gunships. The small French garrison but up a brave fight but was forced to surrender within minutes because of overwhelming British force.

The un-declared war lead to Henri Brisson’s famous statement “The British have attacked, get a warship to set sail for the channel; to give ‘em one for the last 300 years!”. In the channel there is a ship dual between the HMS Shah (a frigate) and the French battleship Marceau, which resulted in the Shahs hull being blown open. Many feel it is the one of the last ‘honorable ship duels’ and a tit for tact battle.

In Algeria many see the crisis as a chance to move against their French masters, rioting breaks out across the country; with several members of the Algerian council of governors being executed. The Algerian council of governors are able to re-take Algiers imposing martial law, but the rest of the country remains in anarchy; loosely run by the Anarchist group Flensia. A German taskforce lands in the country with 3 weeks to restore order (whilst tensions between the French and British remain high), and promise to restore the territory to French rule.

Supplying the taskforce becomes an immediate problem, and stocks quickly run short. The famine of 93-94 still had the country on its knees recovering, this episode truly cripples it. News of German troops slaughtering Algerians gains them the nickname “the Huns”, more than 2 in 3 Algerians starve and the country falls into a deep depression. Henri Brisson is called upon by the party to end tensions with Britain (who’s Mediterranean fleet is stopping the French from sorting the problem in Algeria out) for the sake of the colony.

In Berlin the British and French sign an agreement, the British will gain the benefit of the doubt in Fashoda in exchange for help in Algeria.

Kaiser Wilhelm sees the tensions as an opportunity to break the Dresden naval accord, expanding his navy beyond that agreed. Archibald Primrose promises to allow Germany to maintain a small colonial empire; in exchange Britain will gain Germany as an un-official ally. This is seen as a move towards friendship, and away from the mutual agreement of non intervention that there was before. In contrast Britain also stays in a free trade agreement with France and Spain, seeing this as a counter balance to Germany’s power on the continent.

I rather like this!

Bobindelaware
 
Clear things up

"I don't know what this is. A policy of "replacing old corrupt leaders" sounds biased in your commentary (why do you call them corrupt ?) and authoritarian in action. After all, how do you REPLACE other than by many new laws giving government power over unions, which completely negates the whole point of trade unions ? And the latter part of your paragraph is pure Thatcher wank - "make sure that union bosses don't abuse their power" translates to make sure the government has power to stop unions threatening its policies at all, ever"
I got rid of the replacing the 'old corrupt leaders' and replaced it with just a strict regulation board, dw this doesnt get though parliment

"Britain won't give a flying fuck what any other country thinks about her policy in Afghanistan since its not their business. If the USA tries to get involved, the FO will politely tell them to fuck off. After all, turn things around - what does Britain LOSE by ignoring everyone and doing their own thing ? NOTHING as far as I can see, since any agreement with Russian won't be worth the paper its written on, and its therefore better to pursue one's own goals and leave Russia guessing than to lose face and give in to Russian pressure for a meaningless treaty"
Britain wants to maintain a balance of power on the continent, Britain only loses trade with a war with germany and russia. Especialy as the second qaurentine zone protects India just as well.

"South Africa at this time is the Cape Province and Natal. Remember that the SAR and OFS are independent, albeit with their foreign policy under Britain's....well, if not control but veto maybe."
Thats only for now....

"Um, what does that mean ? "
It means in effect hes anti de-colonisation (giving dominion status to ireland)

Thank you to all those reading and giving your imput it is most apriciated and needed :)
 
Name for the timeline

Has anyone got any good ideas for what the timeline should be called?
Maybe it is a bit early to decide, but someone might have some good ideas :)

Thanks guys
 
bobbis14 said:
this is seen as the end of ‘Michaels liberal revolution’; though it will continue to be celebrated as if going on strong in media.

This is very perceptive :) Well done !

In France Henri Brisson begins his “socialist dream” several ‘agricultural trusts’ are set up, these buy up vast farmlands and turn them into collectivized farms. There is mass protest at this with many feeling they are losing their livelihood,

I think you mean vast numbers of or vast areas of farm-lands, because I think the only very large scale farms in this period are the vineyards. Even today I think a lot of French farming is based on small-scale operation, tho I don't know for sure.

Work also begins on the Campenon fortifications, a string of trench’s barbed wire, walls, towers, artillery batteries and bunkers completely surrounding Paris; with over 179,000 men to be working the fortification.

Hopefully you mean these 179,000 men will be working ON the fortification, rather than manning it when its complete !

The resulting battle is said to be have been even fiercer than waterloo, 3 British Battalions attack the French position with support from a flotilla of gunships. The small French garrison but up a brave fight but was forced to surrender within minutes because of overwhelming British force.

Lol, you can't have it both ways - either its survivors hyperbole says its fiercer than Waterloo, OR its over in a short while. The one negates the other.

News of German troops slaughtering Algerians gains them the nickname “the Huns”, more than 2 in 3 Algerians starve and the country falls into a deep depression

I like your alternate history way that the Germans get their nickname, but I think your figures are far too high. The Algerians can withdraw inland, and if the Germans follow them they will be drawn into a trap. Remember, the population lived there before food came from anywhere else, being denied the coast doesn't automatically starve them out. If you're looking for percentile comparisons with later OTL German atrocities in SW Africa, you have to remember that the starting numbers are significantly different. There are vastly more Algerians, which means they are going to be much much harder to exterminate, and whilst Kaiser Wilhelm II in OTL made Hunnish statements about German forces in China during the Boxer Rebellion, the forces on the ground did not live up to them, because there was no need for them to live up to them.

Keep going - its fun !

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
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Cheers :)

"Lol, you can't have it both ways - either its survivors hyperbole says its fiercer than Waterloo, OR its over in a short while. The one negates the other."
The battle is perticuarly fierce and is compared to waterloo (not in length of the battle)

"I think you mean vast numbers of or vast areas of farm-lands, because I think the only very large scale farms in this period are the vineyards. Even today I think a lot of French farming is based on small-scale operation, tho I don't know for sure."
Yes I meant large areas of farm lands, thanks

"I like your alternate history way that the Germans get their nickname, but I think your figures are far too high. The Algerians can withdraw inland, and if the Germans follow them they will be drawn into a trap. Remember, the population lived there before food came from anywhere else, being denied the coast doesn't automatically starve them out. If you're looking for percentile comparisons with later OTL German atrocities in SW Africa, you have to remember that the starting numbers are significantly different. There are vastly more Algerians, which means they are going to be much much harder to exterminate, and whilst Kaiser Wilhelm II in OTL made Hunnish statements about German forces in China during the Boxer Rebellion, the forces on the ground did not live up to them, because there was no need for them to live up to them. "
Could you tell me what kind of figure would be more realistic, thanks.

Thanks for all your imputs, it is very helpful. I havent made a new year because I have been away in Berlin, but I will do 1900 soon dont worry.

Thank you all readers!
 
1899 (Last year of the 20th century)

1899
George Roos-Keppel leads an operation against the Chamkanni bandits, capturing nearly 600 prisoners. Russian forces (now in more permanent bases near Afghanistan) are mobilized, and Russia calls upon the German board to decide whether the operation was lawful. The board is told by Kaiser Wilhelm to vote in favor of the British, Punch makes a cartoon showing Archibald Primrose and Kaiser Wilhelm scratching each other’s backs (in reference to Britain ignoring Germany breaking the Dresden treaty and Germany authorising the operation)

In China the booming Rubber industry encourages new depths of economic competition between America and Japan. This leads to delegates from the two countries to sign a reassurance treaty in Hawaii. Japanese think tanks come up with “operation dark” in which Japanese operatives move in with an underground movement called the ‘Chengdu boys’, who will overthrow the de facto ruler Empress Dowager and establish a more reliable government. When incumbent President Watson finds out this he calls it the “story of the century” and threatens Matsukata Masayoshi that he’ll tell the Chinese and blow his security and Japans reputation. ‘Un-connectedly’ a string of Japanese mines are finally approved for American takeover, and operation dark isn’t brought to the public’s attention.

The 55th American congress has a debate over Liberal policies, Arthur Sewall (Democratic neo conservative Industrialist) speaks in the house and gets bans on same sex marriages in most states. The Higgs report comes out in the U.S and details spending, many are shocked to see how much of the Federal Reserve had been dipped into to secure (what would come to define Watson’s presidency) the American dollar on gold standard (by buying gold to secure its value). President Watson begins his ‘East coast tour’ visiting +20 states, defending his policy and asking people to vote for the democrats in the 1900 congressional elections to allow him to pass a law getting America off gold standard.

Arthur Sewall highly criticizes the Newsboys Strike, calling it an example of how the new liberal ideas have corrupted our youth.
In Poland a string of members of the Nationalist group ‘Harkar’ are arrested and imprisoned after mock trail.

The German Kaiser organizes a meeting to discuss foreign relations, known as the Berlin den meeting. The meeting decides that a strong non interference policy should be maintained with Britain, that Italy and Austria-Hungry should sign a cultural sharing agreement, that on the border with France preparations for a defensive war should start, that France and Russia should not be allowed to sign an alliance and that Poland and the Baltic states should be colonized. Whilst the German economy was booming there is no need to implement any Internal reforms.

Cecil Rhodes marches to ‘liberate’ Johannesburg towards the end of the year, Boer movements begin to gain strength as Archibald Primroseplanning to send an increased number of troops to the colony in the New Year; everything looks set to boil into war. Lord Salisbury calls for a general election, planned for 1901.
 
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What it says on the tin: Would Russia be precived as weak if there was no 1905 war with japan
 
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What do you think of the idea of Germany scoring a quick victory over France, dividing West Africa between them and Italy also taking Cuba, Phillipeans and Indo China. On top of that Germany having some eastern colonies aka Poland-Lithuanian, Ukerain and White Russia (Bellurussia). Feedback?:confused:
 
Sorry I havent updated for a while

I do intend to continue with this timeline but I have exams and have been working.

WARNING SPOILERS
what do you think of the idea of a communist china (similar to taiwan) in Manchuria and the Nationalists in general control at the end of a ISOTed Civil war :confused: Also the German 'living space' idea
 
I have decided to Move this TL to a different thread, I think I got too bogged down in stuff about trade unions etc. And having been on the site a bit longer I hopefuly have a bit more knowledge. Check out the new thread here
 
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