1848 Hungary and Galicia-Lodomeria

What if Hungary (meaning just the Pannonian Basin) had broken away in 1848 and Galicia-Lodomeria likewise became its own Hapsburg Kingdom?

In the Crimean War, might we perhaps see a revival of Poland with a Galician acquisition of the Vistula Land?

Here, Austria is comprised of Cisleithania, Croatia, and Veneto.
 
The lose of the whole of Hungary means, quite frankly, the "Corpse on the Danube" is going to have fully fallen out of the ranks of the Great Powers in Europe, which means the UK and France are going to go in HARD to keep Russia from expanding her influence in Eastern Europe as the Ottomans are now the only potentially viable hedge against the formation of the Giant Green Glob (Equivilent of the Big Blue Blob) growing to the point the balance of power is shifted enough that they'll be able to make a great for Hegemony and kick off the next continent-destroying series of wars (The Alexandrian Wars, equivilent to the Napoleonic Wars and Wars of Louis XIV). In that case, I do see the idea of restoring Poland to cut Russian down to a smaller size a goal they'd want to pursue... though their ability to accomblish that is questionable at best. Especially since in 5 years the Habsburgs are not going to have recovered from the damages of 48 (especially without Hungary) and the Italian Nationalists are still going to want to bite at the corpse and Prussia has every desire to stand against the idea.
 
The lose of the whole of Hungary means, quite frankly, the "Corpse on the Danube" is going to have fully fallen out of the ranks of the Great Powers in Europe, which means the UK and France are going to go in HARD to keep Russia from expanding her influence in Eastern Europe as the Ottomans are now the only potentially viable hedge against the formation of the Giant Green Glob (Equivilent of the Big Blue Blob) growing to the point the balance of power is shifted enough that they'll be able to make a great for Hegemony and kick off the next continent-destroying series of wars (The Alexandrian Wars, equivilent to the Napoleonic Wars and Wars of Louis XIV). In that case, I do see the idea of restoring Poland to cut Russian down to a smaller size a goal they'd want to pursue... though their ability to accomblish that is questionable at best. Especially since in 5 years the Habsburgs are not going to have recovered from the damages of 48 (especially without Hungary) and the Italian Nationalists are still going to want to bite at the corpse and Prussia has every desire to stand against the idea.
Could this mean more british and french help to the ottoman monarchy in reforming the empire? The brits may pass from obstructing to encouraging ottoman control in Egypt and the persian gulf. Could this mean that the western powers stay passive (or even helpful) to ottoman "troubles" in the balkans and Lebanon?
 
What if Hungary (meaning just the Pannonian Basin) had broken away in 1848 and Galicia-Lodomeria likewise became its own Hapsburg Kingdom?

In the Crimean War, might we perhaps see a revival of Poland with a Galician acquisition of the Vistula Land?

Here, Austria is comprised of Cisleithania, Croatia, and Veneto.

Hungary itself will be unstable due to several ethnicities living there. It depends on how Hungary will treat those ethnicities. At the start they need to give them some autonomy or breakaway is imminent. Autonomy as in recognising their language. It will help at the moment.

Austria will be severely weakened. It might be weakened enough to get Austria and Bohemia within Prussian led Germany. Italy will try to snatch Habsburg Italy. At this point it depends on Napoleon III/France to support Austria or let them fall. Supporting/abandoning will have huge consequences on France. Either a Greater Germany as a result or a divided North-South Germany.

Russia is the biggest winner. No Austria that can be a threat to them, only a growing yet weakish Prussia and an unstable Ottoman Empire in the 1840s not strong enough to hold the Russian Armies alone. At this point it also depends on the United Kingdom and France to either back up Prussia, Ottoman Empire AND Galicia against Russian plans for Eastern Europe. And they will have those plans. One can assume Hungary will also be a target of Russia. And if the new independent Galicia gets a Polish identity then Russia has its own problem like the Ottomans had with Serbia.

The Ottomans are also better off in the short term. No Habsburg support for the Obrenovic. But this means more Russia leaning Serbia. But even then, it still depends on Anglo-French support for Istanbul. Hungary might be backed up as well to keep the barrier with Russia as strong as possible. Although I have my doubt if Hungary has any chance of survival if Russia were to intervene against them in favor of pro-Russian minorities (Romanians, Serbs...)
 
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The lose of the whole of Hungary means, quite frankly, the "Corpse on the Danube" is going to have fully fallen out of the ranks of the Great Powers in Europe, which means the UK and France are going to go in HARD to keep Russia from expanding her influence in Eastern Europe as the Ottomans are now the only potentially viable hedge against the formation of the Giant Green Glob (Equivilent of the Big Blue Blob) growing to the point the balance of power is shifted enough that they'll be able to make a great for Hegemony and kick off the next continent-destroying series of wars (The Alexandrian Wars, equivilent to the Napoleonic Wars and Wars of Louis XIV). In that case, I do see the idea of restoring Poland to cut Russian down to a smaller size a goal they'd want to pursue... though their ability to accomblish that is questionable at best. Especially since in 5 years the Habsburgs are not going to have recovered from the damages of 48 (especially without Hungary) and the Italian Nationalists are still going to want to bite at the corpse and Prussia has every desire to stand against the idea.

Quite agree regarding results of the loss of Hungary but who and how is going to "restore Poland"? This action would require a crushing military defeat of Austria AND Prussia AND Russia. Not going to happen even with France and UK joining their forces.
 
What if Hungary (meaning just the Pannonian Basin) had broken away in 1848 and Galicia-Lodomeria likewise became its own Hapsburg Kingdom?

In the Crimean War, might we perhaps see a revival of Poland with a Galician acquisition of the Vistula Land?

Nope. In OTL the Allied success in the Crimea became possible because the bulk of the Russian army was deployed against potential Austrian attack. A freshly-baked Kingdon of Galicia (its population was only 7M by 1910, approximately half non-Polish) simply would not be able to raise an army big enough to play the same role as OTL Austrua, not to mention a conquest pf the Russia-held Poland. Not sure if Prussia would be excited about such an idea either by the reasons obvious.
 
Quite agree regarding results of the loss of Hungary but who and how is going to "restore Poland"? This action would require a crushing military defeat of Austria AND Prussia AND Russia. Not going to happen even with France and UK joining their forces.

To pull from the post you were quotining (emphasis added) " I do see the idea of restoring Poland to cut Russian down to a smaller size a goal they'd want to pursue... though their ability to accomblish that is questionable at best". It would be something they'd very much want to see and push for if they had the chance (though they probably won't get a good chance) especially since they'll either be trying to court Vienna or Beandenburg. It would simply be the best single goal to accomblish if your goal is to hedge Russian power
 
To pull from the post you were quotining (emphasis added) " I do see the idea of restoring Poland to cut Russian down to a smaller size a goal they'd want to pursue... though their ability to accomblish that is questionable at best". It would be something they'd very much want to see and push for if they had the chance (though they probably won't get a good chance) especially since they'll either be trying to court Vienna or Beandenburg. It would simply be the best single goal to accomblish if your goal is to hedge Russian power

I see your point. IIRC, this goal had been floated from time to time but the main problem (IMO) was in the fact that it would involve an active participation of the states which were not really interested in the stated results. And an assumption that Prussia or Austria would go to war which may cause internal problems (at least for Prussia which still holds Polish territories) just to satisfy the British interests is something that could happen only in the minds of the British politicians of Palmerston's type. ;)
 
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