1632 from 2002?

So I've been reading the ring of fire books, bloody awesome read apart from a few of the later ones that were just dreadful (Galileo affair, couldn't stand it, stopped reading about half way through)

But I was pondering a question what if instead of being moved from 2000 to 1632 what would the series have looked like if they moved from 2002, a few months after September the 11th? Leaving all the characters / etc the same, just moving the date forward.

I'm not an American myself, but I remember that feelings were running very high at the time, so the idea of moving a highly emotional people backwards in time rather then the relatively stable group is intriguing.

Anyone have any opinions (also I wasn't sure if this was suppose to go in pre or post 1900).
 

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Anyone have any opinions (also I wasn't sure if this was suppose to go in pre or post 1900).

ASB section is your best bet. Don't sweat it, the board can be confusing when you first arrive.

Welcome to the board, by the way! Hope you have a good time here.
 
Alternative history books and media section works too. :D

Back to the prompt though. These characters are going to probably be a slightly more paranoid outlook, be more in defence of the "U.S." mind set, and more expansionist. So that CEO speech about a scale down probably wont happen. Either meaning he wins his idea for the future of the town and Mike now may loose. Not sure.

Still have to remember that those characters knew way too much for an "average" mining town of today about 1630's Germany. :rolleyes:
 
So I've been reading the ring of fire books, bloody awesome read apart from a few of the later ones that were just dreadful (Galileo affair, couldn't stand it, stopped reading about half way through)

But I was pondering a question what if instead of being moved from 2000 to 1632 what would the series have looked like if they moved from 2002, a few months after September the 11th? Leaving all the characters / etc the same, just moving the date forward.

I'm not an American myself, but I remember that feelings were running very high at the time, so the idea of moving a highly emotional people backwards in time rather then the relatively stable group is intriguing.

Anyone have any opinions (also I wasn't sure if this was suppose to go in pre or post 1900).

Finish reading "1634: The Galileo Affair". It gets ALOT better. If you want BAD, check out "1635: The Dreeson Incident".
 
Finish reading "1634: The Galileo Affair". It gets ALOT better. If you want BAD, check out "1635: The Dreeson Incident".

I was reading that earlier actually, it's bloody dribble, I think the guy needs to stop writing with partners, I can tolerate when he does it with Webber even though the info dumps become extreme (though a long time fan of the HH series knows when to just skip 4 paragraphs), but some of the others really drag the story down.

Too much focus on tiny details of the day and who's related to who... I just want progression of the story, apart from the first two books it seems like the entire thing is just going in circles.
 
Mothra! Mothra! Mothraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

I was reading that earlier actually, it's bloody dribble, I think the guy needs to stop writing with partners, I can tolerate when he does it with Webber even though the info dumps become extreme (though a long time fan of the HH series knows when to just skip 4 paragraphs), but some of the others really drag the story down.

Too much focus on tiny details of the day and who's related to who... I just want progression of the story, apart from the first two books it seems like the entire thing is just going in circles.

How about this as a primer, since I'm something of a nut on the 1632verse, but honest enough to tell when Flint is just grinding it out.

THE TRUE 1632verse STORY ARC:

1632
1633
1634: THE BALTIC WAR
1634: THE WALLENSTEIN GAMBIT (Novella)
1635: THE EASTERN FRONT (Publish date 12/2010)-Based on the title, it's hard to see how this could NOT be in the story arc.

AND (Don't choke)
"Butterflies in the Kremlin" a serialized Grantville Gazette E-Zine story (yes, it's soapy, IN PARTS) that tells the story of the first uptimer to settle in Russia. It also shows a meeting between the Ottoman Turks and the Russians. Oh, and for Russia, the "Butterflies in the Kremlin" ARE Mothra sized!:D
 
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I tried to follow the online content on 1632 but it's all over the place. Have they collected it into one site now?

Strategos' Risk

I'm not a master on this subject, but I am an expert. I'll be happy to help you.

First and foremost: www.baen.com

It's the publisher's home webpage.

You'll see "SCHEDULE" near the top that will show upcoming books (about six a month). Flint grinds out alot of books that have nothing to do with the 1632verse. The 1632verse books (not counting "Grantville Gazette, Granville Gazette Volumes II thru V") are published about once a year (despite Flint's many promises).

On the far left of the homepage is what I believe you are looking for.

BAEN'S BAR.

The "BAR" includes many things but what I think YOU want is the 1632 section that is NOT the Tech Manual (Lots of tech talk unrelated to storytelling).

You have the right to write up a story for submission to the BAR. I have to tell you, as long as you have decent grammar and a spell-check, and you're not plagiarizing, and the story is canon (doesn't break the setting of the 1632verse), they will put your story in. When I think of some of the dreck on the BAR! I should tell you this writing is considered fanzine and Non-canon UNTIL such time as the editors may decide, based on good feedback from the readers, to publish the story in the Electronic Magazine "The Grantville Gazette", published on-line bi-monthly.

I'm guessing you know all about that magazine. I've been a suscriber for years. They are up to issue 28.:D Those stories, once they have gotten that far, are 100% CANON. They happened. Which is why they are almost entirely Soap Opera. Non-STORY ARC.

There is only one serious ARC story in that 'zine. As I mentioned in an earlier post, the serial "Butterflies in the Kremlin". BTW, ALL the 'zines are available permanently to members.

Also, if the editors get seriously favorable feedback from a Baen's Bar/1632 submission, that gets equally good feedback as a 'zine story, it can be published in one of the hardcover Grantville Gazette anthologies.

IF, and it's a VERY big IF, your writing at the level of the Grantville Gazette Anthology series level gets REALLY good feedback, you can get an invite to do a collaboration with Eric Flint on a future 1632 short story, novella, or novel!:)x the infinite. It's already happened, IIRC. I THINK one of his collaborators on his most recent works "came up through the ranks".

Seem impossible? Reading is just for fun? Like singing?

Paging Susan Boyle...;)

I once thought I couldn't write a laundry list. Until I discovered this website, and found that when you're writing what you love, the words just flow (as long as you have a spell check. Don't worry about grammar. That's what editors are paid for). I have spent several decades reading, reading, reading. It never occurred to me the words might one day flow the other way.

Sorry, this isn't what you asked for at all. But maybe you should consider it? You've taken the first step! You're a reader. An avid reader. You've taken the second step! You're here! Now take the third step. Go to Baen's Bar. Go to the 1632 section. Get to fun (not work).
 
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Finish reading "1634: The Galileo Affair". It gets ALOT better. If you want BAD, check out "1635: The Dreeson Incident".
Agreed. It's actually the best book in the series - you finally get to see the perfect Grantvilleians get their comeuppance and screw up. Definately better than the first book, where it's just Grantville going from one victory to another.
 
Agreed. It's actually the best book in the series - you finally get to see the perfect Grantvilleians get their comeuppance and screw up. Definately better than the first book, where it's just Grantville going from one victory to another.

Well I personally wasn't complaining about the plot just the writing style and the speed with it progressing, which is about as slow as my grandmother.
 
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