100 Years War

With a post 1800 POD, make America at war for 100 years without Balkanization or becoming a third world country. By Balkanization, I mean the US having anything less than 13 states. You can use the CSA (though I imagine they'd ally with the US if the Brits attacked(OH! Nother topic idea!)).
 
With a post 1800 POD, make America at war for 100 years without Balkanization or becoming a third world country. By Balkanization, I mean the US having anything less than 13 states. You can use the CSA (though I imagine they'd ally with the US if the Brits attacked(OH! Nother topic idea!)).

This is a tall damn order. There was never been a "century of warfare" in the sense you seem to be suggesting. The "hundred years war" was a century-and-a-bit in which England and France repeatedly fought for similar reasons, but actually sustaining a war effort for 100 years is not really possible.

Also, you appear to live up to your screan name with the second part of your post. Uh, why would the CSA suddenly switch sides when the country it canvassed for help actually helped? This topic has been explored before, somewhat hilariously, by Harry Harrison in one of his lesser moments.
 
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1. They don't necessarily have to be fighting the same person. I.e. Britain and France for 25 years, as soon as they leave the Spanish attack (like within the week). Stuff like that.
2. When I say the CSA allying with the USA, I meant something like the Brits attack America during Fort Sumter and First Manassas (sp?). The CSA would be hard pressed to fight the British on their own.
 
But those were a little farther apart. I mean like one powerful nation or another warring on American soil for 100 years.
 
Have every incident betwee the Brits and the US blow up into war. I believe the US is strong enough to hold its own while not powerful enough to completely defeat the British until 1880-1900. These wars would result in rapid industrialization, economic development and eventually territorial expansion. ACW is probably butterflied away as the reoccurence of war with Britain forces the South to diversify away from cotton(and consequently slavery).
 
I'm taking a rough stab here... details I'm being sketchy on at this point

American Revolution(1775-1790)- longer

US Intervention in Napoleonic Wars in exchange for Lousisana(1803-1815)- Napoleon Defeated, Indian Nation formed out of Great Lake States, Lousiana returned to Spain, Northern Maine annexed

Spanish & Seminole War/1st Spanish-American War(1818-1822)- US aquires Florida and Lousiana

Southern Indian Wars(1825-28), Southern Tribes(Cherokees, Creeks, Chickasaws, Choctaws, ect) forcibly relocated to Indian Territory

Texas Revolution-(1835-1836) Texas gains independence from Mexico, US sends volunteer regiments.

The Oregon War/Third Anglo-American War (1842-1846)- US reclaims northern Maine, defeats and annexes Techmseh's Confederacy, and the Oregon territory

The Great Gold War(1848-1850)- Texas and US defeat Mexico over California gold, California, New Mexico and Arizona divided between US and Texas.

US Civil War(1852-1855)- Confederacy Seccedes, Texas runs guns to the south, sells southern cotton, General Jefferson Davis preserves southern independence.

War of Mexican Succession/Second Mexican War(1862-65)- US intervenes when Napoleon III puppets Mexico. Confederacy and Texas declare war on US. US forces French withdrawl and Texas joins the South due to being unable to pay war debts.

2nd Spanish-American War(1871-72), CSS Kentucky mysteriously destroyed in Havana harbor, Confederacy declares war. US declares war also, annexes the Phillipines and Spanish Pacific islands. CS gets Cuba and Puerto Rico.

Third Mexican War(1880-84)- Imperial loyalists revolt in Mexico, Confederacy assists them, naming Chihuahua and Sonora as their price. US declares war, France and Britain declare war on them eventually defeating the US, Imperial Mexico restored.

There I did it. OVer a hundred years of war... sorta. :p
 
2. When I say the CSA allying with the USA, I meant something like the Brits attack America during Fort Sumter and First Manassas (sp?). The CSA would be hard pressed to fight the British on their own.

I'm curious, why would the British attack the USA or CSA (short of stepping in to facilitate the CSA's independence, which you have already ruled out)? What do they have to gain? Contrary to what many think, after the ARW the British never had any intention of fighting America and they certainly didn't want to "win the colonies back" or even grab small parts of the former colonies. The only reason the British would ever fight the Americans is if the Americans attacked first. The Pig War is a good example of this - the British posted troops to the island to protect British interests but ardently refused to make the first move.
 
2. When I say the CSA allying with the USA, I meant something like the Brits attack America during Fort Sumter and First Manassas (sp?). The CSA would be hard pressed to fight the British on their own.

I'm curious, why would the British attack the USA or CSA (short of stepping in to facilitate the CSA's independence, which you have already ruled out)? What do they have to gain? Contrary to what many think, after the ARW the British never had any intention of fighting America and they certainly didn't want to "win the colonies back" or even grab small parts of the former colonies. The only reason the British would ever fight the Americans is if the Americans attacked first. The Pig War is a good example of this - the British posted troops to the island to protect British interests but ardently refused to make the first move.

Bumpity bump ;)
 
No comments on my stab at a hundred years of war? :p

Longest period of peace was 13 years, and I could throw a Whiskey Rebellion or quasi Indian war in that gap I guess.
 
No comments on my stab at a hundred years of war? :p

Longest period of peace was 13 years, and I could throw a Whiskey Rebellion or quasi Indian war in that gap I guess.
I'd say only 2-3 (MAYBE 5, max, but thats stretching it) years between wars would be great. Also, would such a long war advance weapons and such any quicker? (LOL I can just see a German panzer rolling through Gettysburg in the ACW)
 

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I'd say only 2-3 (MAYBE 5, max, but thats stretching it) years between wars would be great. Also, would such a long war advance weapons and such any quicker? (LOL I can just see a German panzer rolling through Gettysburg in the ACW)

Wouldn't it be the other way around? Your killing/maiming/drafting all your inventors. Blowing up factories, and cities...
 

mowque

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Not necessarily, for the fear of war could increase the incentive to invent the next great weapon.

Incentive is nice but if you have no means to progress? Not to mention you'll have little/less incentive for consumer advancement which would probably cause your economy as a whole to retard.
 
Not necessarily, for the fear of war could increase the incentive to invent the next great weapon.

Remember what happened to France after World War One. Yeah they won, but the "hollow generation" went a long way to sealing the deal in World War Two.
 
1805-1815 1st Amero-British War
1817-1820 1st Amero-Spanish War
1823-1835 Great Indian Wars, results in an Indian nation being founded in OTL Oklahoma and Kansas
1836-1838 Texas Revolution, 2nd Amero-Spanish War
1840-1846 2nd Amero-British War
1848-1854 California War (Texas/US Vs. Spain/Mexico), results in Californian independence and Cuba being annexed by the U.S.
1855-1857 American-Indian War (Indian nation split between Texas and US)
1861-1867 1st North American War (U.S. split just like OTL, North fighting Canada and South, South fighting Texas and U.S., Texas and California fighting Mexico and Indians, Texas also fighting the South)
1871-1881 2nd North American War (Texan-Californian Confederation VS Russia and Mexico, U.S. and Britain VS France, France also fighting Prussians)
1886-1888 3rd Amero-British War, this time over the Venezuela-Guyuana dispute (dispute at a different time than OTL)
1892-1895 3rd Amero-Spanish War (Mexico and Spain try to grab and split Cuba)
1900-1901 War of American Unification (U.S. VS Texan-California Confederation, the new Indian territory in revolt, and Canada)
 
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