Lands of Ice and Mice: An Alternate History of the Thule

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Well the basic ideas I think. I don't want to force someone to submit posts for editing. But outlining the notion might be helpful. Consider the discussion with farquarson
 
I am curious what the substantive nature of the Thule religion is. We've gotten vague hints about 'pleasing the spirits' but nothing more than that, really. I might do some reading on OTL Inuit beliefs and send some ideas your way on how they develop TTL.
 
The Aleutian islands stretch in a gracious arc between Siberia and Alaska, dividing the north Pacific from the Bering sea. Fourteen large islands, and fifty five smaller ones, they host no fewer than 57 volcanoes.

The peoples who inhabit these islands are the Aleut, also known as the Unanga, a word that means original people. The Aleut were originally part of one of the last migrations from Asia, approximately three thousand years ago, two thousand years ago diverging from the people who would become the Thule and eventually OTL’s Inuit.

The Aleut language, now nearly extinct and in many places much influenced by Russian, is part of the Eskimo-Aleut family, which includes the Yupik and Inuit languages.

I would say that much of the divergence between the Aleut and what became the Thule was a matter of environment and lifestyle - the lack of critical big land mammals for hunting, the abundance of fish, sea mammals and sea birds, an environment that was orders of magnitude more rainy than any other part of the Thule realm - indeed, fogs are constant, average rainfall is 80 inches a year, and some parts receive rain as much as 250 days a year.
Their islands and peninsulas were far too wet for musk ox, and not amenable to the migrating caribou, who were part of the Inuit lifestyle. Any moose or caribou herds that existed on the Aleutian islands were probably local populations and rapidly hunted to extinction by the original settlers. Isolated on islands, there was no place for large mammals to drift in to replenish the population.

The Aleut shared much of their culture with their Thule relatives. Like OTL’s Inuit, they were exemplary hunters, skilled at harvesting the wild life of the sea, particularly seals and whales. They had their own version of kayaks or skin boats, Baidarka’s and Baidara’s, which if anything were more efficient. Their clothes were more waterproofed. Their houses were partially underground, to shield from the elements.

The Aleut seemed to have been far less nomadic than their Thule relatives, perhaps because the sea’s bounty was rich. They seemed to live in stable communities, living off fish, sea mammals and birds. They were, even more than the Thule, a sea people.

It is unlikely but not impossible, that the ancestors of the Thule/Aleuts island hopped from Asia across the Aleutians, rather than crossed the Bering strait. While on the Alaskan side, the islands run thick and fast, with distances of only a few miles between them in some cases, it thins out the further west you go.

The principle Island groups of the Aleutians, running from East to West, are the Alaskan peninsula, not truly an island. The Andreanof Islands, the Rat Islands, the Islands of Four Mountains, the Near Islands and finally the Commander Islands. The highest peaks run two thousand to three thousand feet.

The largest furthest group is the Andreanof Islands (approximately 4000 square miles). Sixty miles further out from them are the Rat Islands.
Another 150 miles separate the group known as the ‘Rat Islands’, (approximately 360 square miles altogether), from the ‘Near Islands (approximately 400 square miles together), with the gulf bridged by small Buldir Island. Buldir is located at almost the midpoint, a convenient stopping point. The furthest ‘Near Island’ Attu, was believed to be home to as many as 2000 Aleut prior to European contact, and was inhabited as long as 750 BC, or within a few centuries of the Aleutian divergence. This rapid early settlement of the far reaches suggests that the Aleuts divergence was early and stabilized rapidly.

Beyond the furthest ‘Near Island’ there is a vast empty gap of 208 miles between the farthest ‘Near Island’ and the closest ‘Commander Island.’ From the Commander Island (approximately 820 square miles), the last island in the chain, there is a gulf of 110 miles to the Kamchatka peninsula at its closest approach.

The Aleutians were bold sailors, that’s for sure. To reach the Near Islands, which they unquestionably did, they would have had to have crossed anywhere from 70 to 150 miles of open water, depending on whether they used Buldir as a way station.

But to reach the Commanders was a jump anywhere from 50% greater, to three times longer, at almost 210 miles, than any other voyage that they had taken. In 2800 years from the settlement of Attu, they never seemed to have taken that step. The Aleut would not settle the nearby Pribilof Islands, also about 200 miles away, until transplanted there by the Russians.

Indeed, when the Command Islands were discovered by the Russians in 1741, the Commander Islands were uninhabited. If humans had ever occupied any of these Islands they were long gone by the time the Russians showed up, which seems inexplicable, because at the least, the Commanders were at least as hospitable as the near.

The Commander Islands showed no trace that humans had ever been there. The only land mammal was the arctic fox, the island was home to a flightless cormorant, to millions of seabirds, and was home for vast numbers of northern fur seals, sea lions, sea otters, and of course, it was the last refuge the stellar’s sea cow.
 
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The Aleutian islands sound great for agriculture. Moist climate, volcanically-enriched soil, sedentary population. I could see the Aleuts adopting the Thule crop package for themselves.
 
The Aleutian islands sound great for agriculture. Moist climate, volcanically-enriched soil, sedentary population. I could see the Aleuts adopting the Thule crop package for themselves.

I could see that. But on the other hand, the moist climate means that microclimate engineering won't work nearly as well.

Thule microclimates are focused on breaking winds that steal away heat, creating localized warm spots. The amount of precipitation and moisture means that creating and maintaining warm spots will be a lot harder - rainfall is going to come in cold and cool the ground, fogs will suck up surface heat, flattening temperatures. Stone cover or stone mulch may continue to work, but my assessment is that overall, the Thule micro-climate techniques will just be less effective.

Thule microclimates and mound construction is also concerned with preserving water in what is typically a dry climate. But on the aleutians, they would literally have to reverse their technology. If anything, there's too much water, and they need to drain some of it.

Still, against these handicaps, you're quite correct - this is potentially some of the richest soils you'll find in the Thule realm, and for once, there's lots and lots of water... So there's some balancing.
 
Hm, the Aluet case does argue against much in the way of open sea trading developing among the Thule. Good find DValdron.

As far as what interesting developments I see happening... In general terms, I would see growing labour specialization, growing social complexity, development of complex ritual systems, ritualization of warfare, ceremonial architecture, increasing scale and durability of status symbols. Beyond the general terms... Well, it depends on what the social toolkit is.

From my reading, it seems Inuit had highly developed shamanic traditions, but lacked anything beyond a family identity before contact - no ideas of clan, tribe or nation, let alone state. That implies that the Thule are going to develop their ideas of clan, tribe and nation after they expand beyond Alaska, meaning the Thule societies could be a menagerie of different ruling systems, as various families invent their own ways to work together in larger groups as the population in their area reaches the critical point. That would mean the social toolkit going to be diverse, to say the least. Given the importance of the Shamen, I would guess that a plurality of Thule "tribes" and "clans" would end up being shaman run. But then, there are alot of forms even shaman-led societies could take.

Speaking of shamen - I found an interesting (but sadly poor in references) - account:

The Inuit tribes have a deeply-rooted Shamanistic culture, and had highly developed methods for initiating new shamans, such as various forms of isolation and self-denial, such as fasting, solitary confinement, celibacy, dietary and purity restrictions, and protracted prayer. Igjugarjuk, a Caribou Inuit shaman, claims to have been isolated by his mentor in a small snow hut where he fasted and meditated in the cold, drinking only a little water twice, for thirty days. After his initiatory vision, which was brought on by the consumption of the Amanita muscaria mushroom, he continued a rigorous regime involving a special diet and celibacy:

"Frequently a candidate will gain shamanic powers during a visionary experience in which he or she undergoes some form of death or personal destruction and disintegration at the hands of divine beings, followed by a corresponding resurrection or reintegration that purges and gives a qualitatively different life to the initiate. For example, a Caribou Inuit initiate named Igjugarjuk, in his long and arduous initiatory vision, was at one point reduced to a skeleton and then was 'forged' with a hammer and anvil. Autdaruta, another Inuit initiate, had a vision in which he was eaten by a bear and then was vomited up, having gained power over the spirits." - James R. Davila, "Hekhalot Literature and Mysticism"

Amanita muscaria (named after Mt. Amanus, the first known habitat for this fungus) was used by ancient people to control fly populations by mixing it with milk to stupefy flies. The concoction did not kill the flies but once they were asleep, they could be easily disposed of. The Inuit tribes, including the Eskimos and individuals of Russian descent, have close relationship with reindeer, and were aware that the reindeer also had an affinity for the Amanita mushroom. The reindeer had such a great taste for the mushroom that they would be seen consuming the urine of other reindeer who had recently eaten a mushroom. If you wanted to catch a reindeer, all you had to do was to urinate and they would come running.

The shaman would urinate and the followers would consume the urine. The consumption of the urine was a common practice for several reasons:1. The mushroom was highly valued and expensive
2. The chemicals responsible for severe cramping were filtered out during the first metabolism (which made the drinking of urine popular).
3. Consumption of the urine also allowed the next person to experience a greater intoxication and permitted up to five people, each one drinking the lasts urine, to become inebriated with just one mushroom.
Now that sounds like something Europeans are going to love when they find out about it!

fasquardon
 
Hm, the Aluet case does argue against much in the way of open sea trading developing among the Thule. Good find DValdron.

Pshaw. I'm just trying to save the Sea Cow from extinction. I was too late for the Mammoths, and too much of a dick for the Auks. So here it goes. It's a silly and sentimental endeavour, in a timeline where I've generally tried to be quite rigourous. But I think I've bought the credits to do it.

To be honest, I was going to kill a whole bunch of people in my next few posts. But what the heck, eh?
 
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Here's a true thing. Alcohol gets processed out of the blood stream. Not all of it, some of it metabolizes. But you get your hard core alkies, they're taking too much to metabolize, so their kidneys shunt it out as piss. You can actually light a bowl of alky piss on fire. Don't ask me how I came to that. Anyway, you get to the mean end of the slope, skid row, complete dissolution, one trick that the hard core have, is that in the morning, they'll drink their own piss. Gives them just enough of a buzz to get going and functioning.

In terms of the extremes depicted, almost any religion in its primal forms involves putting its acolytes through severe abuse. Starvation, scourging, various forms of deprivation, ingestion of mind altering substances.

Early Christianity, for instance, is replete with stories of holy men who fast, deny themselves food and water, who scourge themselves or inflict pain in various ways, ranging from flagellation, to sustained painful stress positions, to exposure to the elements.

The point of all of this is that it induces altered states of consciousness, or psychosis. All sorts of funky things go on in the brain chemistry, big rushes of endorphins, euphoric states, trance states, visual and auditory hallucinations, obsessive compulsive thought patterns, revelatory experiences.

No matter where you go, every religion features them, if you dig deep enough.
 
In OTL, the Aleut peoples had entirely missed the Thule diaspora, expanding both east and west, which had taken place entirely to the north of them.
As always, things took place differently in this timeline. Beginning decades earlier, and with a greater population, the diaspora had taken place as or more quickly, but with more energy behind it. The Thule travelled faster and further in greater numbers, numbers that continued to build wherever they went.

Inevitably some would travel or expand into the Alaskan interior pushing against the Dene, and travelling and settling the coasts where they met the Aleut.

However, in the Alaskan west, the Thule had lacked the clear technological advantage that allowed them to sweep away the Dorset. The pre-Agricultural practices emerging from Alaska were still relatively crude, they had allowed the Thule to build numbers, but not overwhelmling numbers. The practices had given them a better tool kit than in OTL, but not necessarily one so much better as to win in every situation.

Local conditions mattered, and the local circumstances of the Aleuts had resulted in a finely tailored technology and lifestyle. The simple fact of the matter is that Aleut package was exquisitely tuned to living on earthquake prone, fog shrouded, rain drenched islands surviving off of sea life.

So the Thule did not displace the Aleuts. Or at least not much. The groups met, the Thule pushed, but an equilibrium established relatively early. Both groups found a basis for trade, or at least ceremonial exchange.

From the Aleut, the Alaskan Thule acquired the concept of toggle harpoons, something they would also acquire from the Dorset in the east. They would trade for waterproof parkas made from Bird skins or seal or sea-lion guts or baskets. For their part, the Thule, with access to a wider trading network introduced pre-agricultural practices that brought claytonia and sweetvetch into the eastern Aleut lands, and eventually flint and copper artifacts and handicrafts.

There was, initially at least, some degree of mixing and merging of Thule with the Aleut, although the Aleut culture remained dominant in its sphere.
But culture is always a moving target. Nothing remains stable. The Aleut had remained a static culture for over two thousand years, living in a changeless world, each island and community a world unto itself, related to but minimally influenced by its neighbors. Change, when it happened, percolated slowly.

The Thule, however, were anything but static. They were a rapidly expanding and innovating culture, and these innovations spread steadily through their range, although at varying speeds. Most of these developments are coming in the east - the accumulation of pre-agricultural practices, the tipping over into agriculture, the domestication of caribou, ptarmigan and arctic hare, the semi-domestications of verminators, the emergence of copper and then bronze metallurgy, the acquisition of nets and sails, the pseudo-domestications of walrus and beluga.

These changes filtered through Alaska, some quickly, some more slowly, dependent on the Alaskan Thule’s own needs and receptiveness. And as these changes filtered through Alaska, we saw changes in the Alaskan Thule lifestyles, in their population and population density, and their movements. In time, these changes worked their way through to the border regions with the Aleut. There were more Thule impinging on or drifting into Aleut territory, sometimes peacefully, Thule communities emerging side by side with Aleut or in Aleut lands, sometimes welcomed, in the form of marriages, mutual gifts and the steady exchanges that would be called trade, sometimes harshly in the form of raids, occasional low level warfare or one on one instances of robbery or murder.

The end result was that Thule culture steadily infiltrated Aleut culture. Sometimes it was as simple as the fact that Aleut had no words for copper or bronze, no language for domesticated ptarmigan or herding caribou. Thule words and concepts infiltrated empty spaces in the Aleut world. But Thule words and concepts, Thule culture was swallowed whole in that what was taken from the Thule - domesticated reindeer or ptarmigan, or new tools, or emerging agriculture adapted to Aleut conditions, changed Aleut society - there was new kinds of work, new kinds of food, more food, more people. As the Thule influences changed Aleut society, the only model that the Aleut had for those changes was Thule.

The process was by no means rapid. Thule innovations were percolating in a bit at a time, mediated by the Alaskan society. And on the other side of the coin, the Aleut were hardly a uniform or unified culture. The Aleut of one end of the island chain, had little to do with the Aleut at the other end of the chain. The changes would have to work their way through the Aleut, from Island to Island, community to community, even as the Thule themselves infiltrated slowly.

But perhaps it was inevitable. Bit by bit, the changes ripple through. Aleut land use shifts in one region, the population increases, the relative wealth increases. People from neighboring islands and or communities are drawn to the wealth, seeking trade, begging gifts, sometimes seeking refuge or temporary shelter. The increased population spreads out to the neighboring communities, or starts new satellite communities.

Caribou are introduced further and further out, sweetvetch, claytonia, ptarmigan, all follow in their own ways. These relieve subsistence bottlenecks, allow increased population, which in addition to the new resources, puts increasing pressure on traditional resources. There’s more fish harvest, more seal harvest, more walrus and otter harvest, more whales killed.

This is more gradual than the European fur trade, which hit like a firestorm, devastating whole populations of animals. The animals have at least some chance to adjust to circumstances, to compete or increase their reproductive rate to compensate for increased hunting pressure. Even where decline takes place, it is slower, more a matter of requiring more and more effort and further and further travel than of rapid collapse.

The overall process is slow, but by approximately 1490, Attu Island, at the far end of the Aleut’s range, is a very different place than in our own timeline. The population is well over 5000, although how far over is difficult to say. In some respects, not much has changed. The island is treeless, covered by low lying scrub and brush, naked rock is everywhere. But now small herds of dwarfish caribou move about, directed by shepherds. Low U shaped mounds dot the country, criss crossed by drainage ditches ponding water into shallow reservoirs that feed the seabirds. Around hutches swarms of ptarmigan dart about. Here and there arctic foxes lurk in the bushes, a misguided introduction.

There are several villages scattered about of varying size. People move easily among the villages, there is not the starvation or scarcity that makes for bitterness. There are still walrus around, though fewer than there used to be. To the east, there are islands where the Walrus has vanished. Sometimes men come from other Islands to hunt Walrus, a practice that meets increasingly grudging acceptance from the locals. The Walrus hunters need to be generous with their gifts, more and more generous as time goes on. There are fewer sea otter about, people are starting to notice, the old timers tell tales of plenty. But there are still plenty of otters, and no shortage of seals. And if you have to travel further than you used to for a whale... Well, that’s whales for you.

It is in 1490, that the people of Attu after some 2400 years finally venture far enough and deep enough into the waters that they find the Commander Islands, which in our time are named Bering and Medny after Russians. Which in this time, the Aleut will call something else.

Bering and Medny are virgin lands, untouched by humans. There are no forests, only dwarf trees hear and there, the island is covered by lichens and mosses, marsh plants. The streams are full of fish, birds are everywhere, including a flightless cormorant (duck). Sea otters are plentiful. The first men who visit stay for a week, hunting and trapping their fill. And then they go home, telling tales of the new land.

And then... Nothing much. The people of Attu do not come from a tradition of colonization. They’ve lived on their island for two millenia. Pulling up stakes, moving to a new and empty land, leaving everything you know... kind of a creepy thought.

So instead, what you get are occasional hunting expeditions. Perhaps rest stops during a particularly arduous or unsuccessful whaling expedition. Sometimes it’s an expedition to collect sea otter pelts, particularly when the local animals seem too cautious and too few, and there’s trading to be done. Occasional expeditions, not regular ones. After all, it’s over two hundred miles away, that’s a very long, long distance.

The animal known as the Stellar’s Sea Cow is observed and remarked upon. It’s easy to kill them, they show no fear of the skin boats, they seem even curious and friendly towards humans. They are not quick, nor are they hunters. They pose no danger munching on sea grasses.

Mainly, they’re too big. For the size of the expeditions, easier to fill your bellies with sea birds, or eggs easily collected, or seals and sea lions and sea otter. Killing a ten ton, thirty foot long sea mammal is a lot of work, dragging the carcass to shore and butchering it properly is a lot more work, and most of it would go to waste. It’s not like there’s value in the things that would make it worth dragging hundreds of pounds of hide or bone back. A few calves are slaughtered, but mostly they are left alone. Tolerated as they follow the skin boats, full of slow bovine curiousity.

During one of these expeditions, something slightly remarkable occurs. A calf follows a returning boat out to the deep water. The hunters are bemused. It’s young, but large enough. Larger than most seals. It’s weaned. They argue among themselves as they watch it’s desperate plodding after them. Has its mother rejected it? Has the mother died? Does it see in the leather hide of the skin boat a new parent? Or is it merely curious, it’s curiousity leading it to almost certain death in the empty ocean.

It’s been a good expedition, the men are happy. Their bellies are full, the hold is laden with sea otter pelts, and they are on their way home. They’re feeling benign and generous, and perhaps sympathetic to the poor creature in their wake. They feed it, from their gathered vegetable stores, from the moss that they carried to pack their cargo or look to their hygeine. They don’t know if it can eat what they offer it, whether it can digest it, or whether it will make them sick. But they offer, and it swims up and takes some of what is offered. These men know something of feeding caribou or ptarmigan from hand, the resemblance warms them.

They give it a name. Sometimes they stop paddling, to let it catch up, or to let it rest. At times, when it seems tired, they hold it to their boat with ropes, making sure it does not sink. The sea journey is not a long one in our terms, perhaps a few days at most. But keeping the creature alive has become a project, and they are surprised at the affection they feel for it.

On the return to Attu, they find it a little cove near their village where it seems able to feed. The thing becomes a wonder. Everyone in the village comes to look at it. Some of the hunters even take their children, holding their boys or girls as they wade into the water, or paddle up to pet it. What a wonder, such a strange strange creature, so gentle even a child can pet it.

There’s a fortunate spell of good weather. The universal agreement in the village is that the creature is a good omen, that it clearly represents good fortune. Word of it spreads. People from other villages on the island walk or take their baidarka out to see it. Travellers and traders from outside come to see it, some holy men, it is said have even made the trip especially to see it. Having it makes the village special.

Sometimes people talk about how it must be lonely, all by itself....
 
By 1520, small populations of the Sea Cow exist on several of the Aleutian islands, notably Attu, Agattu, Kiska, Atkai, Umnak, Unalaska. Only Attu and Agattu sport small herds of twenty or thirty animals. At the far end of the range, a single animal, born off Attu, swims and feeds off shore of Unimak Island, just short of the Alaskan peninsula.

The Aleutian islands have seen many changes in the last thirty years. The Thule have infiltrated further up the island chain, almost imperceptibly as necessity brings them to adopt Aleut clothing, boats and homes. The Thule live as individuals and families among the Aleut, drawn by one reason or another, or have formed their own small communities and villages among the islands. But they are a different people, they think and see the world differently, and the harsh tones of their language change little.

The Aleut find themselves worn away. In some places, only the elders and women speak the old language. In many places the men speak Thule, pidgin dialects are becoming common. Blood is mixing. Only Attu and Agattu at the far end of the range can count themselves as pure Aleut, and even there, the language is peppered with Thule words and grammar.

A breed of dwarf Caribou is emerging endemic to the Islands, the animals are signified by glorious crowns of antlers and thick shaggy coats that are almost wooly, adapting to the perpetual cold and damp of the small islands.

Agriculture has reached its limits on many islands. Almost the full suite of Thule plants is found on the islands, and multiple varieties of each plant are cultivated in different places, introduced by different wanderers, family seeds and cuttings passed along with marriage, benign shamans and traders offering different gifts. Bistort has emerged as the staple crop, beyond even sweetvetch and claytonia. In some areas, cattails and arrowroot from the south are cultivated. But it will be another couple of centuries before the inhabitants breed optimum varieties and fine tune agricultural techniques to the wet cold landscape.

Agriculture has spurred a population boom, one greater than the ability of the new agriculture to sustain. Having flirted with farming and herding, there are now too many Aleut and Thule in the Islands. Some have spread back to the mainland, merging further with the Thule. Mostly the people have returned to the sea for their sustenance.

Here too there are changes. The Walrus are fewer, but their decline has halted as they have become more and more a managed species. The Pacific Walrus, however, were more plentiful, their haul outs more inaccessible, their decline in most places was not so sharp, and they are far closer to wild than many of their eastern relatives.

The sea otters have declined in many places, vanished in some. The Aleut must travel further, put much more effort in, to catch fewer. Influenced by Thule notions, the ideas of Thule shamans having percolated into the culture, there is some effort to domesticate, or semi-domesticate or manage the Sea Otters. So far, results are inconclusive, but there is now very little tolerance of strangers coming in to take Otters, any reciprocal gifts need to be pretty spectacular, mostly they’re not, and often violence and bloodshed are a response.

The Aleut venture further and further out to sea, the mixture of species they hunt has shifted. Fewer Walrus and Sea Otter are taken, more whales and seals, more fish. The Baidara sometimes use nets. The Pribilof Island, two hundred miles away, and north of the arc of the populated eastern Aleutians have been discovered and settled.

The Commander Islands, so long unknown to the Aleuts are finally being settled, though the settlers are mostly Thule. Things are growing indistinct. But the Aleuts of Attu, some of whom have also moved to the Commanders, are very definite that these new people might dress and live like them, and may bring many good things, but they’re not really people. Give them another ten or fifteen generations, then they might fit in around here as the ‘new people.’ The Commander Islands settlements are still relatively small, only a few hundred people, in comparison to the almost ten thousand of the Near Islands. There is much more contact, the new settlers of the Commander Islands are not nearly so self sufficient, materially or culturally, and frequently return to the Near Islands for trade.

The new settlers of the Commander Islands have also recently discovered the Kamchatka peninsula. Bold sailors have found warlike Thule to the north and hostile strangers to the south. For the forseeable future nothing of substance will come of it, just a stray bit of geographical knowledge that works its way back to the mainland.

Knowledge of the Sea Cow has spread from the Aleut to the Thule, from the Islands to the mainland. The animal has come to be venerated by the Aleut. The Thule are intrigued, they’ve never heard of a sea mammal which feeds on sea plants. They’re all fish eaters, even the Walrus they’ve determined from slitting open stomachs, feeding along the bottom, is a predator. The tranquil nature appeals. The Thule at this time in their history have domesticated their musk ox and caribou, a culture of managing and harvesting beluga and walrus very close to what might be considered domestication has developed. The notion of a direct analogue to musk ox and caribou, slow moving, placid, seagoing plant eaters that can be managed and herded is intriguing to many thoughtful shamans.

A Shaman, somewhere in Alaska, one who has never seen a sea cow, argues persuasively that it is actually a form of tuskless walrus. Against all evidence, this idea catches on and proves appallingly persistent for a century. It leads to a few very unpleasant attempts at hybridisation. A few hold it to be some form of seal, with luckily no efforts to cross breed the line in that way.

A large part of the identification of the Sea Cow with the Walrus, is because a significant number of Shaman's are engaged in a kind of mutual project, a dialogue, focusing on understanding the Walrus, its decline, and the revitalisation of the population. During this period, the collapse of Walrus populations have been arrested, and through deliberate manipulation and transplanting of individuals and populations, the Walrus has returned as a near-domesticate. Conceptually, linking the Sea Cow with the Walrus, allows the Thule to apply the same evolving concepts and management approaches to the Sea Cow. The Thule Shaman's find themselves very interested in the Sea Cow and its possibilities.

The interest is such that the population of the Sea Cow in the Commander Islands actually declines. Calves are stolen with regularity, adopted as sacred animals by the Aleut in the Islands, and as potential domesticates along the mainland.

Unfortunately for the sea cows, the mortality rate for calves is high, particularly in the hands of the Thule. The journeys are long, there are parasites and predators, their requirements are only vaguely understood. Among the Aleut, the animals do better, second and third generation populations develop in the Islands.

The animals reproduce and grow very slowly. The pace is close to that of the walrus or beluga. This limits their value as a domesticate. On land, they would not be competitive at all. But as a managed sea harvest, they are not out of place. The population spreads, protected by humans, along the Alaskan coast, transplanted from kelp bed to kelp bed. Within a century, there are even a few in Hudson Bay.

In some ways, the Sea Cows are not happy animals, or not as happy as they were on the Commanders. Outside of the Commander Islands, the animals tend to show signs of stress, their unharvested life spans are shorter, their sizes generally smaller, between two thirds and 80%. This seems related to malnutrition bottlenecks, parasites and infections, and early reproduction. The reproductive rate is much higher than in the Commanders, their human herders are conscientious about separating weaning calves from their mothers as early as possible, to encourage breeding. Human effort is required to protect the creatures from predators, to ensure breathing holes in winter and to guide them from kelp bed to kelp bed.

By 1600, from a stable starting population of perhaps 1500 animals, there are perhaps 30,000. Of these, a third are in the Aleutian chain itself. Perhaps half are along the Alaskan mainland coast. The remainder are a series of small populations along the Siberian Coast, and in and around the Canadian mainland out to Hudson Bay and Labrador.
 
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A couple of notes on the Sea Cow. In many ways, the animal is poorly understood. Found only on Bering Island in the Commander Isles, the remnant population was about fifteen hundred animals, grouped together in small herds. The animals apparently grew to twenty five or thirty feet, with weight estimates ranging from 4 to 24 tons, the most likely adult weight was probably ten tons, give or take. Stellar wrote that they were unable to submerge completely, which I tend to discount.

Unlike the Manatee or Dugong, the Sea Cows seem to have been fairly social animals. I would normally assume a fairly standard social structure with small herds of cows and juveniles being lead by bulls. But there’s no real reports of incidents of aggression, so its not clear what social or dominance structures existed. We might see some loose association of cows and juveniles, without dominant bulls.

The animals previously existed in the Aleutians, and archeological records show that they had survived in the Near Islands for a time before being hunted to extinction. If you’re wondering if the animal could survive a journey two hundred miles between the Commanders and the Near Islands... Well, apparently they did, once upon a time when they were more widespread.
There are apocryphal stories by the native Aleut of Attu of continuing to hunt the animal even after it was extinct on Bering Island. Given that Attu was inhabited by a substantial population since 750 BC, that seems a long time for an animal like the Sea Cow to endure hunting.

My own guess, and the position I take in this timeline is that the animal became extinct in the Near Islands within a thousand years of human contact.... probably within a couple of hundred years. The apocryphal stories may be very old legends handed down, or possibly inspired or partially inspired by the events on the commanders. For purposes of this timeline, I’ve assumed that the Sea Cows have been extinct so long on the Island of Attu that there’s no real connection made.

We don’t know the life cycle of the animals. The Dugongs and Manatees are extremely long lived animals, living sixty to seventy years. My guess is that the Sea Cows at the least had similar life spans, possibly as long as a hundred years.

The Dugongs and Manatees also reproduce slowly - taking approximately a year to gestate, and with a weaning period of at least another year. I’m inclined to accept this as reasonable for the Sea Cows. On average, a gestation period of 8 to 16 months seems to be the range for non-whale sea mammals (and for many whales). I feel that’s reasonable under the circumstances. Sexual maturity among manatees and dugongs comes between three and five years. Given slow metabolisms, and the much greater size, I would venture six to ten years for Sea Cows to mature.

Generalizing from Walrus, reproduction may be delayed by calves continuing to wean or accompany their mothers for two or three years. A Walrus cow will not breed again until her calf is fully moved on and independent. I suspect that this was happening with the Sea Cows and that the herds featured strong extended association between cows and calves that depressed the reproductive rate. Overall, my thinking is that the social structure of the herds probably acted to limit reproduction and stabilize the population.

The corollary to that, of course, is that if you disrupted the social structure by continually removing and transplanting calves and aggressively herding the animals, you could achieve a much higher reproduction rate. This would still be appallingly slow in comparison to terrestrial domesticates, but it’s loosely comparable to what you would see with beluga or walrus.

I don’t have any information to assess how the Sea Cows would cope with ice. I would assume that at the latitudes of the Aleutian Islands, winter ice around the shores would be a fact of life. Certainly they were adapted to cold waters. It’s possible that the aleutian chain is ice free year round. It’s also possible that the animals were somewhat migratory when they lived along the upper pacific coasts. I’ve assumed that with a degree of active human intervention, they could tolerate arctic winter ice.

As to why humans might want to keep them around as pseudo-domesticates? Obviously, they’re not draft animals, you don’t want them for milk, or wool. They might be an effective source of leather and meat and possibly other useful biological products - sinew, guts, etc. The Aleut, for instance, made waterproof clothing from tanned seal intestines. A several ton animal is a useful source of meat, and its secondary products might have even more significant value.

The question is would sea cows be an economic proposition? In comparison to land domesticates, clearly they wouldn’t be. Their reproduction and growth rates are simply too slow in comparison to terrestrial domesticates. They are not competitive in that sense. And in comparison to many terrestrial domesticates in a pre-industrial context, as I’ve pointed out, they don’t give milk, wool, or labour.

The advantage of sea cows, and for that matter of walrus, is that they are protein that accesses a food source unavailable to humans. Basically, eating seal or dining on tiger is a bad economic proposition. Seals eat fish, tigers eat meat, it makes a lot more economic sense to simply cut the seals or tigers out of the equation and eat the fish or meat. That’s why we don’t raise tigers as livestock, and its why fishermen are always bitching about seals.

Even on land with big domesticates, there’s always that sort of economic trade off. Grain fed cattle? It would be cheaper to dispense with the cattle and just eat the grain. Grass fed cattle? Well, we lose the opportunity to use the grassland to grow grain, rather than cattle forage. Of course, we really like beef and we’re willing to pay the extra costs.

In the case of sea cows, there’s no opportunity cost. No one is using kelp for anything useful. Same with walrus, they’re benthic bottom feeders. For the most part, we can’t access that resource directly. So if there’s no opportunity cost, its basically free protein, which certainly seems cost effective. They’re not really competing against anything. There’s no real trade offs. It’s a slow maturing bounty, but it’s a bounty. So in that sense, their economics work for the Thule.

(I am assuming here that feeding on and disrupting kelp beds doesn't have a significantly adverse effect on marine life or marine ecology, or impacts human harvest).

‘Basically’ free protein. There are some costs - basically, the cultural costs and investments in maintaining and managing the species. Keeping them alive until harvest. Mostly, the critters take care of themselves, but there would be things like herding, defending them from opportunistic hunters, maintaining breathing holes in winter, etc. I’m going to assume that these social costs are minimal enough that the Thule would be winning to make the long term investment of an otherwise slowly reproducing population.

The relatively slow growth rate, productive yield and the long lead time to harvest might discourage a more active, market oriented culture. If you’re in a market economy, you want a return on the investment as soon as possible.

You’ll wait two years for your calf to grow to harvest.... ten years, not so appealing. The European economy was just moving too fast for the animals - the Europeans never considered managing Walrus or any other slow animal, just hunted them out. The Thule are still a stone age or bronze age culture, their pace and economics are different, so I’m prepared to assume that there’s a large window in Thule culture where this can take place.

Realistically, I think that the Sea Cows would simply go extinct in this timeline. Realistic odds are 95% that they don’t make it. They’re an isolated, vulnerable population, which is reproducing extremely slowly. The inevitability is that they get found and hunted. The likelihood is hunted to extinction. Might happen slower or faster, they might last or not. But 95%, the end up in history’s graveyard.

But on the other hand, a 5% chance comes off once in a while. I’ve tried mostly to be conservative on this timeline, and to justify my decisions carefully. So, if I choose to be a bit arbitrary, so be it.
 
I agree the sea cow domestication is unlikely. The hunters adopting a calf as a mascot followed by a run of good weather to give the calf a reputation as a good luck charm is an unlikely sequence of events. But I can believe that if those things happened, people might take the trouble of caring for sea cows. Making them a religious adoption gives the society a plausible reason to invest in sea cows for the time it would take to learn the animal's ways well enough to learn how to use them for utilitarian ends.

There are a couple points in their favour that I think you've missed.

1) They apparently tasted really good - for a population who mainly eats seal, whale and fish, sea cow could be a prestige food and festival treat.
2) Their friendliness to humans, which would mean that close proximity to humans would be less stressful (some animals just find us so difficult to be close to that they waste away) and might lower the labour investment that the Aluet would have to invest in the sea cows to herd them.

And I didn't know those pieces of alohol lore - very interesting. And while hard drinkers might get a top-up from drinking their own piss, I suspect that wouldn't make them likely to look favorably on heathen rituals that had people getting high by drinking shaman piss. Heathen piss rituals are heathen piss rituals, and entirely different from good practical Christian virtue.

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The hunters adopting a calf as a mascot followed by a run of good weather to give the calf a reputation as a good luck charm is an unlikely sequence of events.

Actually, that's not all that unlikely. There are a number of reports of native Americans adopting young animals - bears, wolves, raccoons, sometimes calves and raising them as pets. In most cases that lasts until the animal grows large enough to be troublesome and is killed, or until the animal goes off into the wild on its own.

These events were common enough that they used to be regularly cited as examples of proto-domestication, but are not typically dismissed as taming rather than domestication. Odds are that any unusually placid or unusual animal in a situation where the community had plenty to go around had a good chance of adoption.

The run of 'good luck' is often a case of simply painting a bulls eye around something to justify fuzzy feelings. There isn't that much that is more innocuous than the weather. If not that, then some other signifier would have been taken as a sign of the 'good value' of the animal - birth of a male child, lucky numbres in lotto 649, a good hunt, etc.

If the animal had been cranky and irritating, they would have noticed evil omens to associate with the critter and killed it right quick. That's the beauty of magical thinking.

Now whether this was the only possible route to the pseudo-domestication... shrug. Probably not. Thule Shamans could well have found out about them, gotten completely wrong ideas, and kidnapped a few calves on their own. I went all Disney, so be it.


There are a couple points in their favour that I think you've missed.

1) They apparently tasted really good - for a population who mainly eats seal, whale and fish, sea cow could be a prestige food and festival treat.

I wondered about that. People often talk about the fishy taste of seals. And there's the fishy taste of cormorants which have given rise to a great many elaborate 'recipes.' I have no idea what kelp fed flesh would be like.


2) Their friendliness to humans, which would mean that close proximity to humans would be less stressful (some animals just find us so difficult to be close to that they waste away) and might lower the labour investment that the Aluet would have to invest in the sea cows to herd them.

Agreed, with a caveat. I think that the Aleutian Islands are probably similar enough to Bering Island that the sea cows don't really need any herding per se. There are kelp beds, reasonably hospitable waters, and a degree of tolerance and acceptance as somewhat spiritual creatures. As long as there isn't a famine (in which case, all bets are off), and as long as harvest is restricted to special ceremonial/religious occasions, they'll be okay. Basically, maintenance free. It's as they get dragged along the mainlands that they will start to require more aggressive herding. But as you've said, all indications from the little we know is that they're highly tolerant animals.
 
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Point taken about magical thinking.

I wondered about that. People often talk about the fishy taste of seals. And there's the fishy taste of cormorants which have given rise to a great many elaborate 'recipes.' I have no idea what kelp fed flesh would be like.

I've had kelp fed beef, and it tastes pretty amazing.

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Interesting things learned on the way to looking up other things:

In 1811 a party of Aleuts from Russian Alaska landed on San Nicolas in search of sea otter and seal. They fought with the Nicoleño men, probably over hunting rights and women, and many died as a result. The tribe was decimated, and by the 1830s only around twenty remained; some sources put the number at seven, six women and a man named Black Hawk.

From Wikipedia, obviously.

If this is correct, then it's quite amazing. Assuming that they were hugging the coast, and starting from the nearest Islands to the Alaskan peninsula, the Aleuts would have had to have travelled roughly 3000 miles to reach the San Nicolas Islands. Or a round trip of 6000 miles.

This seems quite incredible to me. The notion of aleuts travelling with their Baidarka that far seems... impossible. I'm tempted to suspect that there was some affiliation with russians or a russian ship or something.

The massacre of the Nicoleno by a hunting party also seems extraordinary. One would assume that given the decimation of the survivors to 20, suggests that there were quite a lot more of them, perhaps several dozens, or a couple of hundred. The notion of a hunting party almost wiping out the lot suggests that it was a huge hunting party, that the sea otter harvest was dramatic.

If anyone has better information on this story and what lay behind it, I'd love to hear it.

As for the rest - there will be no Pacific version of the Sea Thule. Apart from the Aleutians and the Pribiloffs, there just aren't that many real islands in the open North Pacific. In the Arctic, there is the nearby Wrangel and New Siberian Archipelago, but these are reachable over sea ice, and will be reached by the Siberia/Bering Thule.

Along the lower Alaskan, British Colombian, and Washington and Oregon coasts, there are a great many native groups with substantive boat or canoe traditions and respectable seamanship. I'm not sure of the Siberian coasts, but go down far enough, you come to Manchuria, Korea and Japan.

So there's no real scope for a similar phenomenon as the Sea Thule traditions and emergence. The closest we'll come is a hybridized Aleut/Thule whaling culture.
 
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