Ministry of Space, or Briiiiiits iiiiin Spaaaaace!

It's not merely "close to the equator" that's required. You also need a fair bit of infrastructure. If you're just launching little satellites it's not so bad, but if you're sending up Saturn V, N-1, or the Shuttle or large equivalent, you need quite a bit of infrastructure around. You need a big assembly building to put the thing together, and very large and strong carriers and roads to take it to the launchpad. So you need lots of road and/or rail around the place, unless of course you build the entire thing from scratch on site, in which case you need little factories about... plus you need accomodation for 10-20,000 people.

Given all this, and that this takes some years to build, obviously you want to use it for quite some years, too, to get your money's worth. This means you won't build it somewhere politically unstable like the Congo. You'll build it somewhere relatively stable like Australia or... sorry, can't think of any stable ex-French colonies! French Guiana's small enough for them to dominate.

French Guiana, as it is today, couldn't launch something like the Shuttle or a moon lander. It'd need to be expanded a lot. Even so, it's pretty large. In fact, one might even imagine that it was built there not because it was convenient, but as a Big Project to impress the locals and boost their economy.
 
Rocket Design and Market Design

There is specific impulse, specific density, and specific cost. Other requirements are storability and safety. The German rockets were lousy on all counts. Anybody could have built pressure fed rockets with better performance on all metrics. This silly worship of German Technology was a serious handicap to the US space program and Britain could and should have done better.
Probably the best design for (ICBM) military use is a rubber based composite solid rocket. If you want a commercial launcher, go with cryogenic propane (cryogenic propane is denser) and liquid oxygen pressure fed. Single Stage To Orbit if you use Ti alloy. Power for the satellites can be generated by semiconductors and radioisotopes.
The next problem is how Britain justifies spending money on this project. What satellite markets have been successful? Well, broadcast TV, phone relay, weather satellites, some minor earth resource stuff, and that's about it. To make all this work you need lots of television sets and phones.
Luckily, Britain had just build up a big electronics industry to fight WWII. They had large production lines for television sets, some image tube production, some wire recording production and they had just grabbed the German tape recorder technology. All they needed was semiconductors to lower the price to the postwar market.
So how does Britain get a Ti alloy project and a semiconductor project? Isotope production they knew about. You can produce a lot of isotopes from a heavy water reactor. But electronics? High crogenic strength alloys?
 
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wkwillis said:
This silly worship of German Technology was a serious handicap to the US space program and Britain could and should have done better.
Ah, music to my ears, willis. I tire of endless German This and German That. I can find entire books dedicated to the variations in SS daggers over 1933-45, but I can't find a single book on the warlord period in China. Change in gear of guys dressed like gay bdsm blokes? Important! Events that caused the death of millions and shaped the modern asia? Screw that!

The next problem is how Britain justifies spending money on this project. What satellite markets have been successful?

Remember, it doesn't have to be profitable, they just have to think it might be profitable. Thus the enormous spending on Concorde, and on nuclear power, both of which were utter commercial failures. Additionally, they knew within a year or two of the start of the projects they'd be commercial failures, but it went, "why are we spending another four billion pounds on something we know will never turn a profit?" "Well, because we already spent two billion pounds on it..."

We might say the same about the Shuttle. Remember it was supposed to cost less per launch than expendable rockets, because it was reusable? Nuh-uh. Costs more, much more.

The private launch market's actually quite profitable. It's only that silly science stuff which costs money:)

In the end, though, Britain justifies the spending for prestige, national prestige. Not for making money. They could also do a nice bit of propaganda on "the British exploring spirit, now taken to the stars!" Livingston or Cabot in space? Why not? How much profit did Scott of the Antarctic make?
 
GBW said:
Ah, in that case how about OTL's Gabon or Congo? They're both on the equator.
Eh, Congo, that’s the smaller of the two Congo’s yes? Didn’t actually know it used to be a French Colony! But thanks for the suggestion, GBW!

Chef Kyle said:
It's not merely "close to the equator" that's required. You also need a fair bit of infrastructure (…)
Very true, Kyle! So, would it do, if the French sat up their joint space programme in Algiers? After being a part of France since the mid-1800’s, home for their nuke testing and an oil producer, I suppose the infrastructure etc etc would be in place.

wkwillis said:
There is specific impulse, specific density, and specific cost. Other requirements are storability and safety. The German rockets were lousy on all counts. (...) This silly worship of German Technology was a serious handicap to the US space program and Britain could and should have done better.
I really don’t know that much about rockets to be frank, but this quote strikes me as somewhat in opposition to your view, Willis: “All rightâ€, the critics said, “let's build the super V2 if we must...but let's have less of this worship of things German. The Germans didn't win the War!†It was a danger signal, a denial of science. The man who builds a swing doesn't plant a tree and wait for it to grow. He selects an established tree and secures his ropes to the stoutest branch! - Ivan Southall, Woomera, 1962. The all out American programme, the Navy ran it think, was not a success as far I know, so the von Braun crowd must have done something right!

Anyway, is there a way for the Brits to gain acces to the technology you write about? I have a rough draft for a Computers in the MoS TL, so I guess electronics will get covered there. The Brits didn’t do to well in the electronics department in OTL, but probably will now, considering Türing and his merry band of nerds are working full time on various ACE’s!?

Chef Kyle said:
Ah, music to my ears, willis. I tire of endless German This and German That.
Haha, true enough, Kyle, but the bad guys just get all the attention… that’s just life I guess!

Chef Kyle said:
Remember, it doesn't have to be profitable, they just have to think it might be profitable. (…) In the end, though, Britain justifies the spending for prestige, national prestige. Not for making money. They could also do a nice bit of propaganda on "the British exploring spirit, now taken to the stars!" Livingston or Cabot in space? Why not? How much profit did Scott of the Antarctic make?
Exactly!!! Most of the space race in the MoS TL is about prestige and military power! There’s no arms agreements on outer space, so anyone launch whatever they have into space… One of the main reasons for the Commonwealth and Britain to stick so closely together was the common vison politicians and ordinary citizens alike held for space and a bright future…

Thanks or you input!

Oh, Kyle, what do you think of the South African post? Is it too far out?

The very best of regards!

- Mr.Bluenote.
 
The Commonwealth and the General-Secretaries in MoS TL

The British Commonwealth of Nations
No mercy, no power but its own controls it. Panting and snorting like a mad battle steed that has lost its rider, the masterless ocean overruns the globe!
- Herman Melville.

This England never did, nor never shall,
Lie at the proud foot of a conqueror.

- William Shakespeare, King John, Act 5, scene 7.

The British Commonwealth of Nations has not always been the strong Confederation it is today! Before the War it was a voluntary and lose association of independent nations with neither power or influence, nor any responsibilty. Even though the Commonwealth is still voluntary, it is so much more than it was originally intended.

The Commonwealth was created by Britain and was meant to act like a forum for Britain itself, its Dominions and former colonies. Those times are, as we all know, long gone and the present Commonwealth is a strong political entity of its own. One thing hasn’t changed, though; in the past through times of trouble the countries of the British Commonwealth of Nations have stood together, and today they still stand together as brothers on Earth as well as in outer space.

The object of the British Commonwealth of Nations today is to advance democracy, economic relations, science, culture, social development within its member nations and to expand the influence of the Commonwealth as such.

With the Commonwealth Pact and the subsequent agreements on free trade, exchange of technology, manufactored goods, raw-materials, the 1955 Commonwealth Defence Alliance, the Custom Union and the monetary ditto in respectively 1957 and 1960, and other similar achievements, the Commonwealth had prospered.

On of the most important parts of the Commonwealth structure is the the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation, CSIRO, which was founded back in 1926. CSIRO has become the world's largest and most diverse scientific research institution, and covers a broad range of areas of economic or social importance, including agriculture, minerals and energy, manufacturing, communications, construction, health, computer technology and of course space related research. CSIRO also coordinates the various national scientific programmes and adds additional funding if needed to programmes that has relevancy to the Commonwealth.

All member nations recognise the British Queen as their own, and thus as the Head of the Commonwealth.The day to day business is run by a General-Secretary, who serve for maximum two consecutive 7-year terms, and the Commonwealth Council. The General-Secretay and the Council is appointed by the Commonwealth Parlianment sited in Wellington, New Zealand, which members are elected by their native countries for 5 year terms. A large part of the role of the 731 members of Parliament is to pass legislation or amend existing legislation. The Council is located in Bombay, India. Modern day Commonwealth communication technology keeps the various parts of the Commonwealth governing body in close contact. The General-Secretary’s office is placed in Toronto, Canada.

The Commonwealth is a legacy from Britain's Imperial past, but changes profoundly during the last of war-years and in the years immediately after the War. The Empire had already given the countries of the British Commonwealth of Nations a legacy of shared language, and a common legal and political system. That sahred legacy wa the foundation upon which the new Commawelath was build.

The one man who can be attributed to creating the modern Commonwealth, as well as many other thing, among them the unbroken string of Conservative PM’s and the enormously successful space programme, is, of course, Winston S. Churchill.

In the years running up to the War, the British had granted Canada, Australia and New Zealand, South Africa and Ireland total independence, eventhough they still were a part of the old pre-Churchill Commonwealth, the realtions were somewhat unequal, as between a benevolent, but arrogant Father and his Children. For instance the British was committed to defend the nations in the Commonwealth, while the parcipitation of the Commonwealth nations in any British wars never was a given. Furthermore, the Commonwealth nations had little say in neither British domestic, foreign or military matters.

Churchill and his government in late 1944, after the horrendous diplomatic catastrophe known as the Yalta Conference, sat about to change all this. Some key colonies were immediately recognized as independent nations within the Commonwealth, now refered to as the British Commonwealth of Nations, not just the British Commonwealth as before.

The entire political structure of the Empire was changed, but the true magnitude only became visible late in Churchill’s first post-war term and procalmined in his famous socalled Empire-speech at the International Congress on Astronautics in 1951; “We must lose the Empire in order to preserve it. But it must be a different Empire, an Empire where we in the brotherhood that is the Commonwealth of Nations shall stand by each other in joy as well as sorrow! We must share all burdens and rewards equally for only as brothers can we survive and thrive in this new world, where an Iron Curtain has descended upon Eastern Europe and a Fortress of Ignorance arisen in the Americas. The eyes of the world now look to us, the Commonwealth of Nations to create a better future!†Those words will forever be imprinted in the minds of every citizen of the Commonwealth. His speech is even today, nearly 50 years later, recited with great affection at Commonwealth Day.

As part of Churchill’s restructurering process colonies and Dominions lost their status and became nations, but not just nations, they became Commonwealth nations. Each had a seat in the newly establish Commonwealth Parliament. The number of seats each country had was based on voting population. However, Commonwealth Parliament in Wellington, at first had limited responsibilities; it handled the foreign affairs of the Commonwealth, the exchange of goods, technology, man-power and such, the Commowealth infrastruture and, finanly, it handled the defence of the British Commonwealth of Nations. The various national Parliaments handled, as they of course still do, most other matters. The Commonwealth Parliament had control over the Commonwealth Armed Forces via the United Commonwealth Command in Johannesburg. The Commonwealth nations financed this new political structure with a fixed percentage of their tax revenues.


Commonwealth General-Secretaries
Educate your children to self-control, to the habit of holding passion and prejudice and evil tendencies subject to an upright and reasoning will, and you have done much to abolish misery from their future and crimes from society!
- Benjamin Franklin.

List of General-Secretaries of the British Commonwealth of Nations in the Ministry of Space TL.

Konni Zilliacus, Britain : 1947-54.
Leslie Morshead, Australia: 1954-59.
Lal Bahadur Shastri, India: 1959-1966.
Robert Lorne Stanfield, Canada: 1966-73.
John Mary Lynch, Ireland: 1973-80.
Helen Suzman, Federation of South Africa: 1980-87.
Douglas Richard Hurd, Britain: 1987-94.
Rajiv Gandhi, India: 1994-01.

The General-Secretary is the governmental head of the British Commonwealth of Nations. The General-Secretay is appointed by the Commonwealth Parlianment in Wellington, New Zealand. The appointment must be confirmed by the recognized Head of State, the British Monarch. The confirmations has thus far been automatic. The General-Secretary’s office in placed in Toronto, Canada.

Commonwealth General-Secretaries
Konni Zilliacus
Konni Zilliacus, was born on 13th of September, 1894. His father, Konni Zilliacus Senior, had been involved in the struggle to obtain the independence of Finnish struggle for independence. Zilliacus was educated in Sweden, Finland and the United States. During WW1 he served as an medical orderly in a military hospital in France.

Zilliacus was a stout supporter of the League of Nations and was not surprissingly devastated by the League's failure to prevent the Italin conquest of Ethiopia and the league’s failure to stop the Spanish Civil War. Zilliacus resigned from the League Secretariat, when the Germans partitioned and later occupied Czechoslovakia.

Zilliacus was also a member of the 1941 Committee and was among the driving forces behind the organization. Zilliacus held the belief that a much more coordinated effort would be needed, with stricter planning of the economy and greater use of scientific know-how, particularly in the field of war production, if the War was to be won. During that time Zilliacus caught Churchill’s eye.

Originally a Labour-man, Zilliacus was nonetheless headhunted by Churchill, who personally disliked the man, but saw his value, to head the new incarnation of the British Commonwealth as its first General-Secretay.

Zilliacus served as General-Secretaries from 1947 to 1954. He was the first General-Secreatary and did much to imbue the post with dignity and a non-nationalistic pro-Commonwealth outlook. Many times Zilliacus clashed openly with both Churchill and Bevin. This was perhaps the reason why he was immensely popular among the Indian, Canadian and African members of the Commonwealth.

Konni Zilliacus died of leukemia on the 6th of July, 1967, and recieved a full state-funeral. He is burried in Toronto, Canada

Leslie Morshead
Leslie Morshead was born in Ballarat Victoria, Australia on 18th September, 1897. He worked as a schoolmaster until joining the Australian Army in 1914.

After the Great War Morshead went into business and became the Sydney-manager for the Orient Line. He remained in contact with the army by heading a reserve battalion.

On the outbreak of the Second World War Morshead was given command of a Australian brigade in North Africa. During the War, he rose to command fisrt the 9th Australian Division and later the Australian Imperial Forces. Morshead made himself quite anam, when he and his troops defended Tobruk for eight months. As Rommals’ troops moved into the city, Morshead sdatged an outbreak and managed to escape along with some of his troops.Under threat from a possible Japanese invasion Morshead was recalled to Australia.

After the War Morshead served at the newly created United Commonwealth Command in Johannesburg, South Africa. During that time he and General William Slim backed up South African Premier Jan Smuts in his bid to desegregate the country. When Slim was appointed Fieldmarshal in 1952, Morshead once again returned to Australia, where he became involved in politics. A stout supporter of The Commonwealth, Morshead ran for Parliament and got elected.

In 1954 he was asked to run for General-Secretary of the British Commonwealth of Nations. The popular Morshead was elected, mostly due to his personal virtues, but also because of the support he was given by many prominent war-heroes, among them the Commonwealth supreme commander, William Slim!

Moshead negotiated the Commonwealth Defence Alliance in 1955 and helped create the unified command structure of the Commonwealth we know today and later got the Commonwealth nations to sign on to the Commonwealth Custom Union in 1957.

Morshead died in office on the 26th of September, 1959. His funeral was one of the largest in Australia's history. He is burried in his home town!

Lal Bahadur Shastri
Lal Bahadur Shastri was born in 1904. As many of the key political figues at the time he was well-educated.

Shastri was the typical Indian politician at the time. He was engaged in Indias truggle for independence, but saw cooperation with the British as Indias best way of getting that!

After Morsheads premature death, Shastri emerged as the consensus candidate for the post as General-Secretary of the Commonwealth. Shastri had not been in his seat long before he had to attend to the difficult matter of the Muslim revolt in northwestern India, the so-called Pakistani Revolt. While Muslims claimed that it was a spontaneous uprising against the Indian oppression, it was clear thet the Soviet Union to a degree had instigated the whole thing! Shastri arranged for the United Commonwealth Command to intervene under the Commonwealth Defence Alliance of 1955. The uprising was crushed in three months and showed the world that the armed forces of the British Commonwealth was not to be trifled with!

In 1960 Lal Bahadur Shastri enlarged the political structure of the Commonwealht with the Common Monetary System.

Because of this failing health Shastri declined to run a second time, and with good reason it would seem, as he died in early 1966 after suffering a heart attack. Shastri is burried near his place of birth, where a memorial is build in his honour. It’s inscribtion reads, "Jai Jawan, Jai Kisan" (Honor the Soldier, Honor the Farmer).

Robert Lorne Stanfield
Robert Stansfield was born on 11th of April, 1914.

Stanfield was born into a wealthy family and recieved the best education possible. He attended schools in both Canada and the US.

During his student days, he became a Socialist, but soon reoriented himself and joined the Conservatives, although he never stopped being very conscious of the poor and needy.

In 1948 Stanfield was elected leader of Nova Scotia’s Progressive Conservative Party of Canada, and quickly began to revive it. Stanfield served several trems as Premier of Nova Scotia, ruling as a moderate and soon gained the nickname, the Red Tory. Stansfield was one of Canada's most distinguished and respected politicians throughout his entire life.

Stanfield left national politics due to a internal dispute in the PCPC and instead entered the Commonwealth Parliament. Much to his own surprise, he was elected as General-Secretary in 1966. He served a full term from his election to 1973.

Robert Stanfield became renowned as a gentleman-like and very civil man, and was extremely well-liked in all the Commonwealth nations. When he passed away after nearly three years illness on the 16th of December 16, 2003, he was truly mourned by Canadians and Commonwealthers alike. He is burried in Nova Scotia.

John Mary Lynch
John Mary Lynch was born on the 15th of August, 1917 in Cork, Ireland. John was the youngest of seven children.

Lynch was educated in Cork at the North Monastery Christian Brothers School, and applied for a job in the Civil Service. Lynch began working on the Cork Circuit Court Staff as a clerk. This was when he decided on a career in law. He enrolled in University College Cork in 1941 and decided to study for the Bar. He completed his studies at Kings Inns in Dublin and qualified as a barrister. He set returned to Cork and set up his own practice there. In 1946 he married Máirên O Connor.

In 1948 Lynch won a seat in the Irish parliament and spent his first few years as speechwriter and research assistant for Eamon de Valera. When de Vaelra returned to popwer in 1951, Lynch was offered the new post of Parliamentary Secretary to the Government. From 1957 untoil 1966, when he became Prime Minister himself, Lynch served as Minister for Education, Minister for Industry and Commerce and finally Minister for Finance.

When Sean Lemass retired as Prime Minister in 1966, the leadership race was expected to involve several senior politicians, but Lemass, distrustful of the candidates emerging, sought a compromise candidate and brought forth Lynch, who decisively beat the other challengers, thus becomming the third leader of Fianna Fáil and Prime minister on the 10th of November. Lynch was seen initially as a weak compromise leader, however, he showed his leadership skills and determination. Lynch great ability to compromise and get the best out of nearly any given situation was seen in his handling of the troublesomme situation in Norhetn Ireland. Lynch succeeded in holdoing the home rule government in place and reducing aid for any radicals.

As with his predessor, Robert Stanfield, Lynch left national politics due to a internal dispute in his own party and instead entered the Commonwealth Parliament. Lynch was was elected as General-Secretary in 1973 and served a full term.

After his term ended in 1980, Lynch retired from politics, but still commented on current affairs. Lynch received many honours and awards, among them a place on the Hurling Team of the Century (Lynch received standing ovations from the crowd present when he was called onto the field at Semple Stadium) and in the Cork Corporation decided to honour him by naming the newly-built tunnel under the river Lee after him.

John Mary Lynch died on the 23rd of October in 1999 in Dublin. He was honoured with a full State funeral in the North Cathedral of his home town of Cork.

Helen Suzman
Helen Suzman was born in Germiston in 1917. She was educated in a convent and thereafter at the University of Witwatersrand.

In 1944 Suzman started working as a lecturer in Economic History at the University of Witwatersrand, but entered politics after hearing a speech made by Premier Smuts on campus. Suzman joined Smuts’ Union Party and in time became what many fondly refers to as the party’s consciousness. During her time in Parliament she defended the right to freedom of expression for all South Africans and she used every opportunity to speak publicly in its defences and question the government, be it led by her own party or others.

Suzman was one of the few members of Parliament who visited Daniel Francois Malan at Robben Island Maximum Security proson. Suzman in general did her best to inspect and improve the living conditions of prisoners. During the Hungary Crack-Down Suzman fought the ANC-SAIC Alliance under Premier Xuma tooth and nail in the name of political freedom and the right to free expression. Her actions gained her international fame as she spoke out in defence of Communista and other accused in the Treason Trials.

In 1971 she tackled gender discrimination, especially that of African women. In the same period the Universities of Oxford, Cambridge and Harvard have awarded her honorary doctorates.

In 1980 Suzman retired from the Federations Parliament as she was elected as General-Secretary of the British Commonwealth of Nations as the first female, and South African, General-Secretary.

Suzman refused reelection in 1987 and used her considerable influence to make an old dream of hers come true. Suzman was thus central to the establishment of the Commonwealth Human Right Group. The Group was created to promote democracy and human right in the Commonwealth nations and among their allies and associated members. Suzman herself led the CHRG’s activities from 1987 til 1996, where she retired from public life. Helen Suzman today live at her ranch in Rhodesia with her husband, Moses Suzman, and family.

Douglas Richard Hurd
Douglas Richard Hurd was born in Marlborough, Wiltshire in 1930.

He attended both Eton and Cambridge. Hurd joined the British diplomacy in 1952 and in varios positions affiliated with the British Commonwealth of Nations served under both the Eden and MacMillan Governments. Hurd especially made himself a name during the Egyptian Uprising.

He joined the Conservative Party in 1966 and was elected to Parliament in the following General Election. He was handpicked by Primeminister Alec Douglas-Home to head the Ministry of Space after the Lunakhod-scandale.

Douglas Hurd became the most respected Minister of Space and would see Commonwealth astronauts on the Moon under his supervison. When he later resigned, he went into Commonwealth politics and got elected to the Parliament in Wellington.

In 1987 Hurd was elected as General-Secretary of the British Commonwealth of Nations as the first British Commonwealth General-Secretary since Konni Zilliacus.

When he stepped down in 1994, Hurd was created Baron Hurd of Westwell. He, however, still remains active, acting as an unofficial Commonwealth spokesman and a successful novelist.

Rajiv Gandhi
Rajiv Gandhi was born in 1944 as the first son of Indira and Feroze Gandhi.

Gandhi attended Cambridge University, where he met and married Sonia. He was not a man of any unusual academic achievements or other distinctions, and appears to have had few ambitions until the death of his brother Sanjay in 1980.

The following year, his mother, Prime Minister Indira Gandhi, appears to have induced Rajiv, an airforce colonel at the time, to enter politics. He stood successfully for election in 1981 and became a political adviser to his mother.

After Indira Gandhi’s death of leukemia in 1987, Rajiv Ghandi succeeded her as leader of the Congress Party, and was sworn in as Prime Minister of India. Rajiv rode on a wave of popularity associated with the name of Gandhi, but had himself few ideas of what to do with his office. He was, as all indians, keen on keeping India among the most powerfull nations in both the Commonwealth and the world and sought to increase Indian investments in modern technology and the armed forces. Gandhi was more of a technocrat, than a true politician.

Gandhi among other things committed Indian troops, the so-called Indian Peace Keeping Force (IPKF), to Ceylon, or Sri Lanka as the natives insist on calling it, in an endeavor to help the government there to eradicate militant separatists. The hihgly modern Indian force got caught in a nasty guerilla war in which it had no training or equipment, nor the doctrine to handle. Losses were heavy and the Indians soon resolved even the slightest skirmish with the use of the heaviest firepower possible and massive air strikes.

In 1993, the Indian public had grown weary of the Ceylon War, and Gandhi was eased from power. His replacement, Vishwanath Pratap Singh, offered him the post of General-Secretary of the British Commonwealth of Nations and begun to work on it. As India by far are the dominant nation when it comes down to the numbers of votes in the Commonwealth the other nations reluctantly supported Gandhi in the name of unity.

In 1994 Ghandi was elected as General-Secretary of the British Commonwealth of Nations as the second indian since Lal Bahadur Shastri in 1959.
 
G.Bone said:
Who is ruling in '01 to '04?
I'm not sure which present politician would fit the bill, G... Michael Portillo perhaps? Nah, he'll be an excelent PM! :)

Other comments?

I hope to post the next part tomorrow and a post on India soon!

Best regards and all!

- B.
 
Mr.Bluenote said:
Very true, Kyle! So, would it do, if the French sat up their joint space programme in Algiers? After being a part of France since the mid-1800’s, home for their nuke testing and an oil producer, I suppose the infrastructure etc etc would be in place.
Yeah, but they give up Algeria in 1963 or whenever it was. So, either De Gaulle actually keeps his promise to keep Algeria, or they somehow perhaps learn from their Indochina debacle, and learn to deal with insurgents by methods other than wiping out villages, etc... And keep Algeria, or at least keep friendly with it.

Oh, Kyle, what do you think of the South African post? Is it too far out?
To be honest, it seemed like a bit of a handwave. "Oh yes, um, famous General takes over, crushes all opposition, benevolent despot. Yeah."

But I don't see what else you can do. South African affairs could be a whole detailed scenario all by themselves. Your problem is that your scenario is dealing with affairs of the whole world, so whatever you do, there's always some little area you missed, some area for people to nitpick.

If Smuts' Africa were the focus of your scenario, I'd be picking holes in it. But the main point of your scenario is space affairs; South Africa's a footnote. So, the handwave will do:)
 
MoS, part XI

Part XI
If we long to believe that the stars rise and set for us, that we are the reason there is a Universe, does science do us a disservice in deflating our conceits?
- Carl Sagan.

The moon sailed on contented,
Above the heaps of slain,
For she saw that manhood liveth,
And honor breathes again.

- George S. Patton, The Moon and the Dead.

During the 1980’s a full scale arms race in space began as the USSR and the USA followed the lead of Britain and the Commonwealth of Nations and themselves began to militarize space with disturbing haste. In its wake the Commonwealth under the leadership of the British PM, Margaret Thatcher also begun to deploy a broad spectrum of multi-function satellites and armed space platforms, socalled MOWS (Manned Orbital Weapons System), in increasing numbers.

In early 1982 the USSR drafted yet another military plan for satellites and other space related equipment. These included among others Plans Sirius Phase II, Gamma, Zamysel and Fon. The final result was two plans Program for Military Space Units for 1986 to 1995 and Basis or Direction of Development of Space Units through 2000. These plans, after evaluation by the Ministry of Defence, were approved by the Central Committee and Soviet Ministers on 2nd of March 1982.
Second generation systems were to use a new series of modular spacecraft buses and ultimately a new series of launch vehicles and new satellite constellations were grouped into integrated systems to achieve specific military purposes. The modular designs developed in two phases, a first phase version that could be launched by an existing launch vehicles, and a larger second phase version to be launched by the Zenit-2 booster. However, flight test and deployment of second generation systems were severely delayed, first by problems with the first stage of the Zenit-2 launch vehicle and by a simple lack of funds as the Red Army struggled on in Afghanistan.
Nonetheless most of the Soviets Unions second generation space systems would be completed in the periode between 1984-1985 and flight trials were conducted in the second half of the 1980's. Deployment of said systems soon began and was more or less completed in the first half of the 1990's, where it would hardly matter anyhow as things turned out. Besides the unmanned space systems, the USSR put the Ko-111 heavy space fighter into orbit, although in few numbers (MI-6 believed that only 10 were produced and as few as 4 ever launched), soon to be followed by the two Stalin-class manned arsenal ships. Several Commonwealth economic experts already predicted that the USSR was cribbling its own economy and the present pace was untenable.

In the United States of America, the Reagan administration had the Navy and Air Force running at full speed to launch more and better space systems than the Soviets, and preferably, but not as important, the Commonwealth. In a joint venture in 1980 the US Navy and Airforce had sent Commander Wilcox into space, now the United States Navy Advanced Research Projects outpaced the USAFSOA with the launch of the USS Challenger and later the USS Constitution, two rather heavy armed spaceships, commonly known as Monitors. It was generally suspected that both ships carried nuclear weapons and was themselves nuclear powered! After that the Air Force Space Operations Angency was pretty much degrated to launching various satellites.

In respons to the alarmingly pace of militarization the Commonwealth launched the HMS Protector as a temporary measure to counter the Soviet and American spacecrafts! The HMS Protector was not much more than a lightly armed and armoured spacecraft, but it had a few new gadgets. Among them a revolutionary air scrubber, a sophisticated selfgoverning computer system based on the AMSTrad processors and a brand new advanced type of RADAR!

In a series of consultations between Minister of Space Douglas Hurd and his colleagues in the Commonwealth Space Agency and the senior officers in Johannesburg it was decided to take a somewhat different path than the Soviets and Americans. As the HMS Protector took to the sky and the Kilimanjaro Launch Facility neared operational status, it was decided that time was on the side of the Commonwealth and that the strategic balance could be held with the forces available for a while without the CSA and the MoS needing to take more risks than necessary (as space related matters was inheritly risky in itself) by rushing things along.

As huge amounts of material and thousands of staff and security personel flooded the Kilimanjaro facility, building of the Space Station HMS Churchill began. The HMS Churchill was to be one out of two planned Commonwealth space stations, the other being the mostly civilian Zuckerman station. The HMS Churchill was, as the named hints, to be a military platform and its primary function to house four to six AVRO Sparhawks and 12-18 men. It’s commander, Rear Admiral Sir John Forster Woodward, later called the Churchill a rare mix of bunker and carrier. HMS Churchill was to be placed in geostationary orbit along the equator
Besides the two space stations the MoS and the CSA planned to build two Moon bases, Elizabeth and Edward. One in the late 1980’s and the other soon after, preferably in the early 90’s, and sometime between the two the Zuckerman Space Station would be placed in L1- Moon/Earth transit orbit! Furthermore some 100 British Royal Marine Commandos and their Commonwealth equivalents began to train for space duty and would form the nucleus of the Commonwealth Space Reaction Force, the first truly mixed Commonwealth unit in history!

However, not all that happened in the eighties had a military purpose as such. Saunders-Roe and . BAC joined forces to created the first TAV (trans-atmospheric vehicle) spaceplane. The design was losely based on BAC’s old MUSTARD design and was capable of reaching low Earth orbit using a combination of a normal jet engine for takeoff, a scramjet to propel to the edge of space at hypersonic speed and finally a rocket engine to move it around in space. The SR-BAC TAV was not designed for deep space travel, but as a passenger spaceplane that could reach the lower ranges of LEO, where it would dock with workstations, the planned space stations and/or simply transfer passegers and light cargo to orbital transfer vehicles, OTVs, or return to Earth as an ordinary suborbital (ala the de Havillands Astros). The first TAV, the Llyod George (Political dealings with the Liberal-Democrates made the naming a given) enterede service with BOAC in april 1986 and, eventhough extremely exspensive soon became a success. The TAV design would eventually be licensed and used by Canadian AVRO to build the AVRO Starfire delta. The Starfire was to replace the aging AVRO Sparhawk.

As Iran became an associated member of the Commonwealth in mid-1980, Douglas Hurd visited Teheran as one of his last public tasks as MoS and watched with the Shah as CSA sent two Iranian astronauts in orbit, thereby welcomming Iran in the Commonwealth of Nations with style!
 
US Presidents in the MoS TL

US Presidents
But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown!
- Carl Sagan.

If you would persuade, you must appeal to interest rather than intellect!
- Benjamin Franklin

List of US Presidents in the post-war period in the Ministry of Space TL.

Roosevelt, Franklin D.,:1933-37, 1937-1941, and 1941-45.
Truman, Harry S.: 1945-53.
Stevenson, Adlai: 1953-57 and 1957-61.
Ridgeway, Matthew: 1961-65.
Goldwater, Barry: 1965-69 and 1969 (Assasinated).
Nixon, Richard: 1969-1973 and 1973-77.
Reagan, Ronald: 1977, 1977-1981, and 1981-85.
Bush, George H.W.: 1985-1989 and 1989-93.
Dole, Bob: 1993-1997 and 1997-2001.
??: 2100.

As the British withdrew from Europe and parts of Asia and Africa the United States of American suddenly had the responsibility for large parts of Europe’s and Asian’s security and, not to forget, its rebuilding in the post-war periode.
The isolationistic behavior shown by the British led Commonwealth of Nations and the ekspansionistic attitude of the USSR after the capsized Yalta Conference in 1944 made the US seek new allies and, after Roosevelt’s death in 1945, focused on France and later, after Suharto's military coup in 1958, Indonesia. The relationship between France and the US was at times severy strained, but US intervetion in Indochina and massive aid during the late 40’s and most of the 50’s made the French into a stout and dependable ally.
US policies was dominated by foreign affaires into the late 70’s where Reagan was inargurated. At first the Democrates had been the hardline hawks regarding foreign politics and national security - see fx. Stevenson's invasion of Cuba in 1959 -, but Ridgeway, with his sterling military record as the Winner of the Korean War, easily beat the weak democratic candidate, Kennedy in the 1969 Presidential Elections, and thus made the GOP the dominant party in the US.
The many race riots and a rising social indignation forced Nixon, after Goldwaters assasination in 1969, to try and rebuild America form the inside and out. He, however, failed and the Office killed him, so to speak. Nixon’s VP, Ronald Reagan ended up as the man who restored American self-confidence and brought the country some much needed healing and economic prosperity. Both Bush and Dole followed reagans lead and focused heavily on domestic politics such as education and economy, while defense switched to strategic deterent in form of nuclear weapons and a massive presence in space.
 
MoS, part XII

Part XII
Satellite vehicles represent a rather fearsome foresight of future wars of nerves, in which aggressive nations could put their pilotless missiles into frictionless satellite motion round the earth for all to see and fear, with the constant threat of guiding them down to a target!
- W. F. Hilton, 1952.

It pays to be obvious, especially if you have a reputation for subtlety!
- Isaac Asimov.

The British Minister of Space, Douglas Richard Hurd, stepped down in 1987 after a very succesfull run as Minister. Hurd went on to become General-Secretary of the Commonwealth of Nations and is to this day remebered quit fondly in the Ministry. As MoS spokesman, Jeremy Clarkson, says; “Next to Douglas I always felt like a very unrefined ape being at a garden party for very civilized Victorians!†Hurd was replaced by Digby Jones, another up-and-comming from the Ministry’s seemingly endless supply of clever lads. Jones, who had a past in the Royal Navy, would in time be known as the British Voice, as the Ministry of Space gained even more power and influence under his leadership than seen even under Douglas Hurd.

As part of the Commonwealth’s plan to build two bases on the Lunar surface a series of exploration missons was undertaken by the MoS. Lt.Commander Richard Noble’s Moon mission was followed quite closely by nearly everyone in the Commonwealth. His exstatic shouts of “By God, we’re back!â€, would make him famous almost overnight and help generate renewed interest in space!
Along with the manned Moon missions the first elements of the HMSS Churchill was launcehd from the Kilimanjaro Launch Facility. As one Black Duchess booster after another lifted off into space, the space staton begun to take shape in its geostationary orbit, and in mid-1986, Rear Admiral Woodward, could raise his command at the station. HMSS Churchill was operational, and a week later the 111st Near Orbit Squadron, consisting of four AVRO Sparhawks and two of the brand new AVRO Starfighters too became operational. Together with the HMS Protector, that would be decommissioned in 1991, and later the Moon based squadrons the British and the Commonwealth once again ruled space

Under the supersvision of Mark Oliphant rapid progress was being made on the Moon bases as well as the space stations. The boffins working under the aegis of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation, CSIRO, had offered a design for a functioning Moon base as early as 1972, and after summarizing the demands that the special conditions on the Moon placed on its construction, the CSIRO engineers put to wotk. The CSIRO hoped to reflect both the need for securety in regard to the hostile envirenment and man made threats!

The design that was chosen, was made by one of CSIRO’s many top-engineers, Dr.Parkinson. The Elizabeth Moon Base was build around eight cylindrical 12-tonnes pressurized habitation modules and five unpressurized 10-tonnes resource modules, which housed solar arrays and regenerative fuel cells for generating electrical power and the like. Furthermore three 8-tonnes unpressurized hangar modules, cointaining two Moon Range Rovers and two OTL’s vehicles, that was needed to get to and from the near Moon orbit transfer points, and one pressurezied 20-tonnes barrack module, for the squad of Marines from the Commonwealth Space Reaction Force, was added. Later a nuclear power plant module, an extended hangarsystem for a squadron of AVRO Starfighters, five air defence modules and several 12-tonnes science modules would by added to the base. The Elizabeth Moon Base would primarily be run by the military, while the next base, the Edward Moon Base, would by run by CSIRO and other mostly civilian agencies.
Dr.Parkinson and his team planned to use hydroponic agriculture, crops grow in troughs containing pebbles flooded with a nutrient solution, to supply the inhabitants of the Elizabeth Moon Base with some of their daily needs and to generate some amount of oxygen. In addition chlorella algae would be grown in vats to serve as nutritional raw material, rich in vitamins and fat. Dr. Parkinson and the other boffins at CSIRO was certain that it would be possible to extract water from ice deposits at the Moon’s poles – the deposits had been discovered be Lt.Commander Noble and kept top secret -, thus nearly making the base self-sufficient. One of Parkinson’s more imaginative colleagues even suggested to grow mushrooms in pressurized caverns beneath the Moon’s surface.
Two rather radical systems was proposed for launching raw materials from the Moon; a high-energy laser lift system and a mass-drive. The high-energy laser lift system consisted of a cargo rocket, that actaully carried no rocket engine, but only fuel. The fuel would be heated by a ground based laser and thus set off. The Mass-driver was a more complex system and was tied into the Special Defence Initiative’s railgun project. The mass-drive as basically a magnetic sled that hurled its cargo of up to 20-tonnes into space via 250m long accelerator track.

As one of his first official acts Digby Jones went on a extended tour in the United States of America. When accussed of intruding on the Foreign Office’s turf, Digby said: “The Commonwealth’s future prosperity fundamentally depends on delivering success in the international arena. The Commonwealth need to justifiy its scientific achievements and use them to gain access to new markets and to be able to invest overseas, as well as exchange ideas with friendly nations and organizations. My visit will allow me to assess developments in British-US commercial relations and to hear the UD administration’s plans particularly with regard to exploitation of space!â€
After the otherwise very successful tour Clarkson commented on the Americans: “They pretend to be a bunch of savages who likes their beer cold, their deer raw and their music country-style. Even the engineers try to look and act like rough and tough frontiersmen, who drive huge pick-ups for no other reason than you could go to the woods at weekends with your other pick-up-driving friends and dream up plans to rid Europe of its damned back-stabbing pinkies!â€

Clarkson’s harsh comments was not the only thing plagueing the Americans in the late 80’s. Their much talked about and very ambitious Orion Project suffered a catastrophic mishap as the USS Orion blew up on its launch pad in Nevada, spraying nuclear material all around. Conspiration-theorists, and anti-British in general, was quick to point to the “obvious†connection to MoS Jones’ visit.
In the USSR the more and more economically strained nation struggled along with its space programme as the impressive and vital Zenit boosters never fully lived up to their great promise.
 
I've just looked my MoS TL over and found a few mistakes...

Mr.Bluenote said:
(...) but Ridgeway, with his sterling military record as the Winner of the Korean War, easily beat the weak democratic candidate, Kennedy in the 1969.
That would of course be the Presidential Election of 1961, not '69!

Mr.Bluenote said:
(...) the HMSS Churchill (...)
Churchill is a space sation and would therefor be Her Majesty's Space Station...

Mr.Bluenote said:
(...) and two of the brand new AVRO Starfighters (...).
Ooops, that would be AVRO Starfires, not Starfighthers.

Besides that, what do you guys think? No comments at all?

Best regards!

- Mr.Bluenote.
 

Grey Wolf

Donor
The election is in 1960, or 1968, the candidates take the position up in 1961 or 1969 but you can't say the election is in those years

Unless I missed something ?

Grey Wolf
 

Grey Wolf

Donor
Interesting, I just read the last two major posts

I'm a bit confused over your presidents - you have half a century of unbroken Republican rule ?

Out of interest, why is the space-plane delivering parts for the Commonwealth project described as a bomber ? Doesn't a bomber stop being a bomber when converted to do something else ?

Grey Wolf
 
Grey Wolf said:
Interesting, I just read the last two major posts
Thank you, GW! I'm btw just about to dig into the NASA/NACA links you provided in Straha's thread!

Grey Wolf said:
I'm a bit confused over your presidents - you have half a century of unbroken Republican rule ?
Hmm, well, mostly to show a more reactionary and isolationistic US, and I couldn't find any Democrates to fit the bill... Basically you have a US in this TL that's rather pissed with the world as a whole and somewhat scared by the Communists - No NATO, no UN, the french are you're most dependable friends etc etc...

The Conservatives have btw run Britain since Churchill... ;)

Grey Wolf said:
Out of interest, why is the space-plane delivering parts for the Commonwealth project described as a bomber ? Doesn't a bomber stop being a bomber when converted to do something else ?
Ok, you lost me there, Grey? Eh, what bomber are you refering to? In the last two posts the only thing I can think of is the Black Duchess booster that's delivering part for the space station...

Thanks for your comments!

Best regards!

-Bluenote.
 
Grey Wolf said:
The election is in 1960, or 1968, the candidates take the position up in 1961 or 1969 but you can't say the election is in those years?
Heh, yes, well... ooops... My mistake! You're of course quite right! :eek:

Best regards!

- Mr.Bluenote.
 

Grey Wolf

Donor
Mr.Bluenote said:
Ok, you lost me there, Grey? Eh, what bomber are you refering to? In the last two posts the only thing I can think of is the Black Duchess booster that's delivering part for the space station...

-Bluenote.

Oops, my mistake, sorry a misreading there

Who is the Black Duchess ? I remember Black Douglas from the 1400s, but he was an earl

Grey Wolf
 
Grey Wolf said:
Who is the Black Duchess ? I remember Black Douglas from the 1400s, but he was an earl
Haha, well, the Black Duchess never existed. The Black Arrow, Knight, Prince and Duke (the Duke on paper only, but still...), however, did. Apparently the British used some kind of colour code for their various space projects back when they had a space programme of their own - A Black prefix indicates a rocket of some sort, while a Blue one indicates a missile system ala Blue Streak.

You actually remember Black Douglas from the 1400s?! Wow!! :D

Best regards and all!

- Mr.Bluenote.
 

Grey Wolf

Donor
I wonder what a white prefix signifies ? I use to refer to my cat as White Streak, and its now the basis of my secondary email address, whitestreak2003

Completely irrelevant I know, lol, but I've got bugger all to do this weekend...

Grey Wolf
 
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