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The Soviets split again after this, with some of the more prominent party members securing control of the United Soviet Socialist Republics of the Baltic and the Transcaucasian Soviet Socialist Republic. From there, they where elected in the newly re-founded Republic of Poland (The Socialist Party of Poland is now the only legal party there.), and


The fact that the Whites win out in Russia hardly seems a sufficient provocation for a 180 degree political turn in Poland. (Transcaucasia I can buy, and the Latvians _were_ prominent in the Revolution: although they're also rather accessible to anti-Red British landings).

The Ukraine OTL was a real mess - nationalists, communists, anarchists, Russian loyalists, (including a White base for invasion in the Crimea) - and if the Whites win out in Russia proper, nobody in a position to help has much incentive to support an independent regime (well, the Poles, but they want a big chunk of the Ukraine themselves). The survival of a local lefty (or righty anti-Russian) regime including all the territory shown is IMHO rather iffy, although I would buy a somewhat smaller one centered on the more nationalist Galician region (and what's with that Romanian claim line? Don't they have OTL Moldova less the transnistria?)

As for Transylvania? The "Democratic Republic" represents pro-communist Romanians.

I would think union with Romania was a much bigger thing before WWI among Transylvanian Romanians than creating a Red Transylvania (historically, when ethnic nationalism confronts socialism, socialism gets it's ass handed to it). Any evidence as to the likelihood of this?

(In any event, I suspect realtions between Hungary and Transylvania with the alliance makes the Greek-Turkish relationship within NATO look like a bed of roses [1]).

Bruce


[1] A silly saying, to be sure. Thorns, Marlowe, thorns.
 
@Beedok, so at the start, Tibet, Sichuan, and Mongolia inherit the earth, followed by a Bedouin-based Caliphate or perhaps the west Africans?

I'm think that the New World might get somewhere this time around though. And the Polynesians will bring some new foods to the Americas.
 
Hah, I remember this one! :) Query: what is the difference between an "open" and a "restricted" nation-state? And where does the Washington Aegis get the money for defense and nuclear umbrella?

Bruce

Thanks! I turned direction with this one in the last few hours and made it slightly Munroist, if you noticed...

Open nation-states are basically just landlords. They get rent, and they regulate migration, as well as operating courts, but that's about it. If they do have other services, like security, or infrastructure, it's on a level playing field with private interests. Restricted nation-states are more like the modern day paradigm, where they still have many exclusive functions, but it's not very far reaching, and corporations often compete with them on their own terms.

The Aegis is something like an open nation-state. But it's literally just a place that operates the Supreme Court, has the keys to the nukes, and legitimates contracts with Private Military Corporations operating in North America. If any organisation that relies on the use of violence or coercion begins to operate within the Aegis, others will bring this to Court, the Court will rule on it, and the Marines (something like a PMC, but ideologically motivated to protect America) or some PMC will smash them to bits. The payment comes from the Standards, which are themselves paid for by the businesses and municipalities that associate themselves with them. It's hugely cut down compared to a modern military, but nukes and ABM aren't all that expensive at this time, and the money to take down bad actors is never hard to find, it just dries up quickly if there's no immediate threat. Nukes are basically just there to make sure China or Europe or Mercosur/l don't get any bright ideas.
 
first map ive made for my rough "Anglo-American Rivalry" idea. the gist of it is that the US and the UK never get on good terms again and remain at odds with each other ad infinitum. this map is set around 1815, three years into TTL's War of 1812 (which instead lasts eight years). the invasion of Canada by the US is more successful, hence the occupation of the regions bordering New England. there's also Royal Navy bombardments of American coastal cities (particularly Boston), a Second Battle of New York which ends in a US victory led by Winfield Scott, American raids on the English coast, and several conflicts like the Aroostook War for about the next half-century. not much has changed in terms of what the map looks like (there's some minor changes that are more aesthetic choice on my part than anything else, attributable to butterflies), but it will be building up to more significant changes

i DID, however, make this entire map from scratch even though its directly based on maps so graciously provided in the "basemaps in UCS" thread. this is also alot more simplified than some of my other maps because i dont know the exact status of most of the countries' overseas territories in relation to the rest. it also uses a much more standard color scheme than my other ones

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Thanks! Not an intentional reference - what did you have in mind?

In "Cowboy Bebop - The Movie/Knocking on Heaven's Door" a hacking henchman of the villian refers to the glory days of hacking and that includes a certain Captain Crunch. However I did notice (after a small bit of research) that Crunch is a real hacker, so...
 
Very nice - what's happened with Rome itself, though? IOTL the Roman Empire crumbled after the sacking of Rome; here the Western Roman Empire still seems to have firm control over Italia. Perhaps it reconquered Rome from the Goths? But if the WRE is non-Catholic and its holy city is Avaricum not Rome, they don't have a huge incentive to do so. Also just a query on Britain - the other states with dotted lines are 'princedoms' and 'kazardoms', but Britain is a 'kingdom' rather than 'kingdoms', which makes it seem rather more powerful on the European stage than perhaps it should be in the scenario.

Wow i cant believe i actually got a serious response. Usually im just ignored thanks.

Anyways to answer your questions, firstly ITTL Rome was never sacked by the Goths and was never lost to the west. The strong Emperor at the end of the 4th century prevented that with his reforms in both the army and with the process of hiring the strongest barbarian as mercenaries, and inviting them to settle in and Romanize. Of course upon his death religious strife/civil war break out and those barbarians invite their families into the Empire en-masse. Most of these barbarians settle in the west due to the eastern leadership demanding immediate conversion to Christianity, and giving up their tribal way of life due to its utter "uncivilized-ness", while the west is far less oppressive due to both their more militant religion and their desperate need of troops. The Visigoths settle in nicely during this period. Once the war is done the empire is firmly split in half, Christian Greek in the East and non-Christian (ie. I haven't settled on a name yet.) Latin in the west. Over time the Tribal adopt Latin rites and practices to better fit in with society. There are 3 Capitals in the West, Rome is the capital of the Latin Homeland Italy (and yes all of the major "tribes" have homelands for representational purposes), the Gothic (ie the Ostrogoths are long gone at this point so the distinction is mute.) Homeland Aquitanae, and the Temple Lands centered at Avaricum. By technicality other Homeland capitals can obtain this position but the power has never yet shifted from these three groups.

As for Britain, think of Medieval France, with the Queen's land (Boudicca won after all so women inherit first in Alt-Britain.) being centered around Icanurtoc (ie York), and the rest being the domains of powerful Lords and Ladies, (This is usually what royal males are given.) It also comes with all of the courtly intrigues and other stuff that are usually associated with feudal societies.

Anyways thank you for commenting and i hope that answered your questions.
 
Hokay: I found the "Roma Eterna" setting in GURPS Alternate Earths rather contrived and unlikely, so I decided to cut them down to size.

The Hesperian Romans from across the sea had been initially welcomed by several of the successor states to the second empire: there was considerable popular support for the end of intercine warfare and the reestablishment of the Universal Empire. However, the honeymoon was generally short as the general _foreignness_ of the west Romans, with their barely comprehensible semi-Latin and disgusting spicy food and breathtaking arrogance began putting in place new administrative systems that gored all sorts of goats, and before long were extracting taxes to pay for wars against resistive Persians and Scandinavians and Indians.

In the end, the Long War with Taehan (which had very adeptly copied Hesperian Roman military tech and conquered half of the Serican lands before the Romans decided they were an actual serious threat) with it's expenses and levies of men proved the last straw, and touched off a series of rebellions that, given the Hesperian Roman's stubborn insistance in fighting the rebels and the Taehanese at the same time, ended with the Hesperians losing most of the conquests of the last century and making a peace with the Taehanese that left their core territories intact. An emperor was assassinated by his own troops, and things did not settle down for a while.

In the wake of the Roman withdrawal, the so-called War for the Imperial Crown broke out, as local kingdoms reestablished themselves and tried to grab as much as they could. In the later phases the Hesperian Romans took advantage of the mess to regain some of their losses, and the Gallic, Germanic, and Greek states joined forces to establish a peace (and smack down the Egyptians) and, more importantly, keep the Hesperians from coming back. The League of Roman Nations is _trying_ to create a sort of federal empire, with a capital in Italy: whether this will work in the long run remains uncertain.

(Italy, long fought over by Gallia, Aegytos, and the Greek Romans regained unity and pride as a unified province under Hesperian rule, and was actually rather unhappy to see them leave: it is the biggest supporter of the idea of a deeper, closer union, and dreams of being the leading nation in a unified Romanitas which doesn't include the chili-eaters).

Scandinavia was rarely part of the Imperial system of things, and Britain swam in and out of Roman rule over the centuries: the Alexandrian Empire, whose principal axis of expansion was east after the Persian empire was smashed by the Turkish Volkswanderung, only reestablished rule for a couple of centuries. As a result the nations of the North carried out their own colonization projects in the Hesperides, of which the League of the Western Landfall is the last survivor: too large, too cold and too warlike to be worth the trouble of conquering, it is an only occasionally annoying neighbor to the Hesperidean Empire.

The kingdoms of India, partly by land, and partly by sea, were mostly conquered or vassalized by the Alexandrian empire, but given their huge numbers and distance, were never really Romanized, and the Rajahs weren't particularly glad to have the Hesperideans show up and tell them to rejoice that they had returned to Restore Order. They would keep their own lower castes in line themselves, thank you very much! Roman military superiority and divide-and-conquer briefly re-unified India under Roman rule, but it was probably a doomed project even if the Long War had not intervened.

Currently, the Romans are working to crush the Huaracans, which they conquered as a bit of a consolation prize: devoutly religious people, the Huaracans are carrying out a resistance movement of Afghan ferociousness and determination from their mountains, to which the Romans are responding with overwhelming force: nearly a quarter of the population is already dead. Romans will not back down: there is a matter of face at stake, and the Huaracans will either submit or be exterminated.

The Taehanese are currently Breeding Prodigiously and taking advantage of Roman distractions in the Andes to do some colonizing overseas, particularly in Africa. This Has Been Noted in the Hesperides.

The world does not have as yet a genuine science, although cut-and-try engineering techniques have advanced considerably in Hesperian Rome and Taehan as a result of the long war. Technology in steam and transportation is perhaps mid-to-late 19th century, military tech in some fields almost 20th century (both poison gas and rockets are used in warfare), and telegraphs are widely used. The Taehanese invented the railroad, and have been building a network of rail to connect their territories: the Romans have begun to build rails of their own, their steam-powered road vehicles being crappy enough that rail transport shows some convincing benefits. Steamships are increasingly displacing sailing ships. Agricultural technique has benefitted from increased contact with the Sericans, and in the more developed areas of the Empire is now comparable to European 1700s production rather than 1500-odd, although steam tractors are still too expensive for the average peasant. Some lunatic has added the rocket-powered hot air balloon to the rocket-powered glider in the Bad Ideas category, and a Serican alchemist in one of the League of the Vermillion Bird states has come rather close to the idea of the fuel-air bomb...

Bruce
 
The treaty only gave the Germans an opening to take over Dar es Salaam, the British didn't really control it before, and they might not try to take over Zanzibar if the Germans do interfere. You need to explore the follow on effects from the lack of treaty before making a map.
Basically the idea is that Germany is much more successful in the Seven Weeks War and the Franco-Prussian War, this means there's less desire to make an overseas Empire. Whilst Germany does get a colony or two in Africa they don't have any interest in large ventures and so settle for a small colony on western Africa.

So the general idea is what would happen to that area of land if the Germans had had no interest in the area?
 
Wow, that's the first time I've seen a map of a regressive reform.

Yes, at first I was just interested in having a go at the Balladur proposal which tried to find ways to shrink the number of regions.

Then I tried to add proportionality in the way of the Bundestag.

Finally I made such a nice spreadsheet, that I tried taking my original assembly size from 500 to 300 and see what happened, in terms of over representations.

Hope you like it, took me lots of formula writing before I had results the felt good enough to try to put them in a graphic form...
 
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