Duck and Cover! An American Spinoff of Protect and Survive.

This sounds like the preparation for a religious-based insurgency.


There will be various Administrations for a short period while full contact is not established and the highest surviving member of the presidential succession list.


Right on both accounts, however, all of the regional governments technically have legitimate claims to be the US successor state, and I envision that there will not be a consensus as to who will be the real leader. the problem is that the US is just massive. England could easily fit inside of Idaho, and look at how much trouble their having with insurgencys and coups (the Officer and the Librarian spring to mind). Controlling the whole US under one national government is not physically possible nor plausable.
 
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Wasn't the Postmaster General removed from the line of succession after Carter reorganized it?

Yes, but I believe as NOT in the line of succession he was lucky enough to be out of Washington. Little Rock also took a direct hit, thus negating the "one out of Washington" policy. He's the only political official of any rank (besides the Secretary) available. He would have to be used.
 
Yes I'd love a racist jerk running the country in my TL. Strom Thurmond was a bigot who supported segregation throughout the whole civil rights period and ran under the states rights party for president. All i can say is no. just no.
Watt and Donovan would also be prejudicial to the US.
Hope the Secretary is someone like Schweiker.:)
 
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Yes I'd love a racist jerk running the country in my TL. Strom Thurmond was a bigot who supported segregation throughout the whole civil rights period and ran under the states rights party for president. All i can say is no. just no.

If you kill off Strom Thurmond could you make it to where he dies an agonizing and very painful death? That would be awesome. :D
 
If you kill off Strom Thurmond could you make it to where he dies an agonizing and very painful death? That would be awesome. :D

I'd love to do that, but it would just kill the flow of my TL. I am going to have some interesting events taking place at Stone Mountain Georgia if you want to see racists being curbstompped. :D
 
I'd love to do that, but it would just kill the flow of my TL. I am going to have some interesting events taking place at Stone Mountain Georgia if you want to see racists being curbstompped. :D

Well, I was partly jesting about the 'agonizing' part, but yeah, glad to see Thurmond won't be taking the reins, though. :D
 
Update...well kind of....

I can't pull off a real update today, but here's a small teaser of what is going to happen soon.
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Part III: The Sounds of Silence

Armageddon + 72hr

9 miles outside of Waco, Texas

*The Preacher was standing behind the pulpit. He was beaming when he continued:

"Children, yes indeed in the past three days I spoke to God. I must reveal now that he did speak to me before. I was afraid you would shun me, cast me off. The day before the Old Preacher died, she told me a story. She said that God had told her to build an ark to weather the next storm, but she couldn't do it before she died. So she told me to fast and pray and I did. God spoke to me, I felt his presence, I felt his touch, I felt his kindness. His voice filled my soul: 'Go Build an Ark for your people to weather the storm of heavenly fire. Go gather your flock into the Ark, seal it for three days then go forth and spread the good word.' I said 'Yes, my lord' and he had departed. That was at the beginning of the last month, the 6th the most holy day of the year."

And God was right, we built this complex, expending all of our worldly positions. Our neighbors laughed and said "Why are you building a bunker?" and we replied "The lord commands and we obey." And they laughed, did they not? Are we not safe now? Surrounded by food and true believers? Are we not prepared to follow his next words? We have done more in a month than more have done in a lifetime. God has given us a mission. He then spoke to me just now."

"God came to me again, yet this time I had a vision. The Lord, The Son and I were sitting on a mountain top, and I asked the Lord: 'Where is the Holy Spirit, for here is Your and Your son, yet where is the Holy Spirit?' The Father smiled and the Son replied: 'Is it not obvious, for you are to be the Holy Spirit. You are to protect and spread our word' And I awoke and wept."

"I must now ask you: are you willing to accept, to protect and spread the word?" Standing up the Preacher reached forward and opened the door, a blinding light hit the assembled group blinding them. "Will you follow me outside into the light?"

The crowd in the crowded room burst into cheers and out the door. The Flood was over now was the time to rebuild.
 
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Even if it were to prove to be 'Too early', a (presumably) well-armed and motivated group could achieve a remarkable amount before succumbing.

For good or ill. :eek:

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I had totally forgotten about Waco and Koresh. The developments down there are going to be ugly.


This is going to be painful.
 
The Secretary in Rome

The Secretary in Rome really interests me. What is that person's angle? I can't wait find out about him...and about this Wacko in Waco.
 
Update!

Part IV: A Brave New World

Armageddon + 14 Days

Operation Phoenix [2]:

The Assistant, Chief of Staff! she reminded herself, sat at the end of the table near the photographic slide projector. At 9 o’clock am exactly she stood up and began to her presentation. She pointed to a map projected onto the wall. “We are here, in Columbia” she pointed to a point in south west Washington. The town of Walla Walla had decided by popular vote to change their name to something more “fitting of the United States capital.” Needless to say the new President and his cabinet were quite surprised; they had decided to leave the name of Walla Walla alone. I might not sound like an official capital, but at least it was memorable.

“And here is the area we control.” With the click of a button another slide clicked up onto the screen. The states of Oregon, Washington and parts of Idaho and Montana, were filled in with red. The rest of the states remained black. Click. Another slide flew up, a photograph of a small conference room filled with official looking people in official looking suits. She began her speech:

In the past two weeks we have had great strides in creating a functioning and constitutional government. Our new government is small: The Senate has four interim Senators, as we have not officially “re-annexed” Idaho and Montana. The House of Representatives has 16 interim representatives: eight are from Washington, five are from Oregon, and three represent Montana and Idaho collectively.

The Supreme Court is also shaping up nicely, 8 justices have been appointed for Oregon and Washington, and the Head Justice surprisingly is from Idaho. Most everyone in the room’s heads turned to the President. He nodded “he’s the right man for the job.” The constitution would have to be bent in the next couple of months, and the Head Justice understood what needed to be done. Congress officially accepted their appointments today as well as ours today. I’ll now turn it over to the Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for a military update. They had given up on the idea of a Secretary of Defense. It would just complicate matters that needed to be done quickly. However when the Department of Defense was needed again, they had a good candidate in mind.

The General stood up and walked to the front of the room. He clicked the button and a slide appeared. It showed the USS Nimitz floating into the bay outside of Aberdeen. A massive cheering crowd is seen jubilantly greeting the boat. This is pretty much the story of the century. The USS Nimitz somehow made it home intact and with good news. The Navy was able to rescue some of the ambassadors and the Marine detachments. Don’t ask me who was rescued where, when, or how, I don’t exactly know much. However they will be arriving by various transports over the next couple of days. The new Army is swelling with recruits; we just don’t have the facilities to train them, nor the guns to give them. Being in the military probably better than being a DeStRes volunteer. The National Guard divisions have done a good job of turning out a good army as well as pacifying some of the issues we’ve been facing. The President looked grim, and the Chief of Staff’s stomach lurched. The issues involved armed bands and rogue military units. It was likely than no one in the “opposition forces” survived. The Air Force is another matter. Few military aircraft have been located and we are mostly relying on the CAP for most of our airlift operations. It is cobbled together but the Air Force is proving to show promising signs of being effective in the future. That’s all I have for today. He awkwardly sat down, speeches weren't his strong suit.

The Secretary of Strategic Resources stood up. It was a new job they had conceived and as of right now was based on shaky foundation but was desperately needed. When the Director, now Vice President, had decided to created the Secretary and the Department of Strategic Resources it was widely hailed as an act of pure brilliance. And the contraction that was now being used by the populous proved to be both a joke and a plea for help. The DeStRes Secretary went to the front, a prominent local businessman, his specialty was logistical planning. The Chief of Staff had no idea where they had dug him up, but he was proving to be a reliable and confident manager of the nation’s vital resources. He clicked to a new slide and throughout his short talk there were a few more. Different charts and graphs of data. The food situation is not as bad as we initially envisioned. Through tons of work and the efforts of local volunteers and DeStRes agents we are able to provide anywhere between 800 and 1000 calories for non workers and up to 1500 calories for workers. We will be able to keep these numbers up when the fishing fleet finally gets into full swing and when the harvests begin to come in over the course of the year. Fuel is proving brutally difficult to obtain, however some Navy ships have begun trading food for fuel with some off shore rigs. But we actually waste fuel getting this fuel in so another solution is being worked on. Outfitting empty missile tubes of a nuclear sub has been discussed as an option. As for raw materials, recycling has taken on a new meaning, cars, houses, you name it we will find some way to make it recyclable and useable.

He paused and looked up a grave look plastered on his face. However I propose a stop to all large scale recycling in a little over a year or two. We need to start to create on our own not simply scavenge from what we have left. If we do not begin to recreate some form of industry, we may lose decades of industrial progress. We cannot afford to let that happen. Hospitals however are being stretched beyond their limits. While some temporary housing has been devised, we have to come up with a better idea for patient care and dealing with those who will die soon. Sadly our stocks of medicine a practically empty. Expect disease to become our biggest concern over the next couple of years along with radiation poisoning and stillbirth. Dealing with the corpse problem is also proving to be tricky, but we are working hard to find a solution. He looked up and said I'm done, CDC your next right?

Other secretaries took their turns speaking. Afterward there was a prolonged period of heated discussion. Who needed what resources more than the other and in the middle the DeStRes Secretary acting as referee. Around noon The President stood and walked to the front of the room. “I think we’ve had enough discussion for now, lunch anyone?” with plenty of nods of agreement as the Cabinet shuffled out of the room and toward the dining hall.


They passed rooms of people bustling about carrying reports and talking quickly about things that needed to get done. The Cabinet, flanked by newly inducted Secret Service agents (pulled from state troopers), walked into the dining hall and sat at their designated table. Their dishes were already there with their bland but caloric food sagging on top. Bland, much like their new lives.
 
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Controling Montana is a bit of an overstatement since its one of the states with ICBM silos.As far as I know they are in the central part of the state so anything in the east going by general wind direction would be gone.Its the same as with the covered reactor in Chernobyl officially Ukraine controles the place but no one dares go in.:DOnly in this case its a far bigger exclusion zone.Only the western part of the state would be relatively safe in the immediate future.
One interesting question should be asked what happened to the inmates in the various american prisons.In 1984 Gacy and Bundy where on death row with their executions years away.Where these guys abandoned in the chaos of the war?Did the prison guards just run once the nuclear phase was reached?Where they transferred to some special facility until the crisis passes?Not just them but all the inmates especially death row life in prison convicts.With the US being so large a country it seems many of these probably escaped once the news leaked out that something nuclear exploded in Germany its not that unlikely to have prison guards saying 'screw this I'm out of here'.So in this timeline Bundy may be among the few to actually be happy especially if he's escaped.:eek:
 
Great updates, I however feel that the various Presidents issue will become a huge problem down the line, but we are not here yet since things can only be done at local level for now.

Is Everett still standing in Washington? If it is I bet that the Boeing factory could be retooled somehow to produce other things. Regardless enough engineers, technicians and specialists have likely survived to make reindustrialisation and rebuilding easier than it would be a in rural state.
 
I doubt Boeing still exists since the Seattle region would be under the fallout cover from the strikes on Bangor one of the main US Navy bases and a home port for the Ohio class subs.Multiple strikes air and ground bursts would have leveled the region.That's without taking into account strikes on Seattle international airport and the factory itself Boeing is a major defence contractor so ups.Other strikes on Mchord AFB and For Lewis south of Tacoma ,Puget Sound Navy shipyard to the west and the SeaTac region is gone.Sorry but too many targets of interest and I might have missed a few.:D
 
Controling Montana is a bit of an overstatement since its one of the states with ICBM silos.

One interesting question should be asked what happened to the inmates in the various american prisons.


Your right about Montana, the government only controls a fraction of the state, a slice just across the Idaho panhandle, and the prisoner question will be covered more in the Secretary stories.

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I however feel that the various Presidents issue will become a huge problem down the line

I have an idea of what the United States will look like in 2020, and it is roughly like the Holy Roman Empire, I'll discuss it more when I post the map of the US in 2020.

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Too early. Radiation levels would still be too high. Sucks to be one of the Waco's. :p

All I can say is that it might have actually been a good idea to drink the Kool-Aide seeing as it had potassium-iodine slipped in it.
 
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Part IV: The Sounds of Silence

Armageddon + 14 Days


The Stars at Night [2]:

On The Pioneer: Continue the Tradition leaflet passed out to college students post-hunger times.

The small mobs of disaffected youth that broke windows and wrote graffiti had now become orderly lines stretching from the “Emergency Service Volunteer Centers.” The promise of something to do, food, and the surprisingly prevalent hope to, as one Pioneer put it, “rebuild America” caused many of the students at Texas A&M and people of all kinds from the area surrounding Bryan to volunteer for the military, on local agriculture projects, or the Pioneer groups.

The Pioneer groups were an unusual way of tackling the problems sure to follow a nuclear exchange. Sending vitally needed young people out into what was essentially a large black zone, seemed a large waste of manpower and resources. But, the provisional government out of College Station was left with few choices and none of them were better. The rag-tag units of the Texas National Guard supplemented by the Corps of Cadets and new military recruits were not in fighting condition, that would require a few months, and were too small in number to reasonably pacify the region of Texas they wished to control. With few natural barriers, their loosely defined border leaked like a sieve and required almost inhuman work to control.

Refugees from all across the state poured in through these gaps and found themselves squatting in one of the many squalid and unsanitary refugee camps. Fears of disease soon spread and many “squatter camps” were attacked and razed by people on both sides of the loosely defined border in the hopes of preventing the outbreak of cholera, dysentery, and other newly deadly diseases. Some refugees by the end of the second week were coming from the destroyed Midland-Odessa area where food and water were quickly becoming scarce. Permitting or “volunteering” refugees into the Pioneer program quickly provided an excellent solution to the refugee crisis. They too could now go and reconstruct as much of their shattered country as they possibly could.

Pioneer groups, loosely defined, were bands of volunteers spread out among many small rural communities in the Brazos valley, in the hopes of alleviating some of their desperate problems. Most of these farms and ranches relied on gas powered vehicles to till their fields and round their livestock. The average size of an American farm pre-Armageddon was a little over 400 acres. With gas running out, thousands of acres of lightly irradiated soil would be left untilled and barren for the next years. Pioneers were expected to provide a jump start to post-Armageddon agriculture. Their collective man power would till the fields and plant the crops so desperately needed to feed the population. Their lives would be harsh, and the work was backbreaking and desperate, however Pioneers were once again settling the American west.


*The Cadet, now a Lieutenant, was holding the rear of column. It had taken the Ranger, now a Captain, and the Lieutenant nearly a week to gather the people needed for their scouting party, and they had made slow progress heading north. Most of the people in their scouting party had little experience riding horses, and their late start was compounded by the need to spend a night in every small town they passed through. The day long layovers were of two purposes, to gauge the acceptance the locals would have for the newfangled Pioneer groups. In most cases their acceptance was at most reluctant, however the promise of a tractor-trailer full of foodstuffs at regular intervals persuaded most if not all people to at least tolerate the Pioneer bands.

There were other towns from which they were nearly run out. Most people saw any form of government they couldn’t touch illegitimate, and were dead set against extra mouths to feed. These towns would be cracked later by “integration” units of the military or the raw necessity of starvation.

The band of scouts was now about to enter the last town before they spied Waco. The little town of Elk is the last stop on their list, after that they would be getting far too close to Waco, the radiation was already far too high. They were quite fortunate that there were enough radiation suits for them to procure on per member of the team.

The Lieutenant, followed the rest of the column into the small main street. A small cluster of people armed with assault rifles sat poised behind overturned cars and wood piles blocking their entrance into the town. Hanging limply off the town’s city hall was a strange flag. A blue triangle cut the flag into two sections, one white, and the other blue. A white Star of David sat in the top left corner. The flag itself puzzled the Lieutenant more than the armed roadblock. Armed roadblocks were common, any flag besides the American or Texan one was not.

The sun baked the soldiers in their radiation suits. The rubber gloves provided little grip, and the eye pieces combined with the cheek filters made it practically impossible to aim. In the middle of the road, on a horse, and unable to fire back, the scouting party were sitting ducks.

Out of nowhere the Captain leapt off of his horse and pulled his gas mask off. Following his lead most of the other troops clamored off of their horses and pulled their masks off. The Lieutenant pulled his mask off and practically fell off of his horse. Quickly they preformed the dance of trading all the horses to one person, the Private, and slowly walking toward the barricade.

“United States Army!” the Captain shouted, the Lieutenant quickly brought himself along side.

“Yeah Right Brother!” bellowed the response “There is no United States, only those God saw fit to leave on the Earth! The Most Holy and the Most Damned, Which do you fit into?”

At least that explains the weird flag, the Lieutenant thought, some kind of religious nut had taken over the town. The noon day sun beat down on his neck and neither side was moving. He and the Captain were standing right in the middle of a firefight with nowhere to run.
 
if the Secretary in Rome arrives at Columbia, he'll find a consolidating provisional government structure. If the worst happens and there's no "quick" reunification, the Columbia government will be the best (or one of the best) prepared to recover from the war.

It seems Koresh is already causing trouble.

Keep it up, Gen Patton!:)
 
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