Map Thread VII
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Ephraim Ben Raphael
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The effect is interesting, it looks like regions of de-facto British control...a theoretically independent UK descended state that is in union with the America-type thingy?
What IS that?!?
It kind of looks like an expansive U.S. that is at war with an enlarged E.U, and their is a communist uprising in California, New York, and Ontario. Iran has absorbed the parts of the Middle East that have the most in common with it culturally, the ROC won the Chinese civil war, and Korea is still divided even though their is no communist nation to back the North.
That implies the DPRK is competent
Looked for some old documents to go with the thing, and this is what I found:
1. Those are communist uprisings
2. The RoC didn't win the war, but the CPC was overthrown and they filled the vacuum
3. Russia leans toward Washington
4. America has Halo-style ODSTs
5. America is ruled by a supercomputer based in the Cheyenne Mountain complex (I made this before I heard about Fallout 3, by the way)
6. Iran is the Obligatory Caliphate
EDIT: Just found something else that sends this to batshit insane territory: one of the major anti-American powers is Japan.
1. Those are communist uprisings
2. The RoC didn't win the war, but the CPC was overthrown and they filled the vacuum
3. Russia leans toward Washington
4. America has Halo-style ODSTs
5. America is ruled by a supercomputer based in the Cheyenne Mountain complex (I made this before I heard about Fallout 3, by the way)
6. Iran is the Obligatory Caliphate
EDIT: Just found something else that sends this to batshit insane territory: one of the major anti-American powers is Japan.
Sorta ASB, but the madness near the end is the thousands of butterflies breaking free of the coccoons they had been in for most of the time after the POD. . . yeah. . .
2020: A bleak and desolate world.
Technology advanced faster than OTL in certain fields, however this was not a happy world. The cold war was fiercer and the environment is screwed. Despite more advanced tech the global state of affairs was more or less similiar until the late 1980s, the only noticeable difference being more space efforts. The USSR fell apart in 1989, with a rather gruesome civil war that didn't end until 1992. A few nukes were used, but Russia still remained the nation with the most nuclear weapons, they also held on to the entirity of the old USSR as no one was willing to get involved and risk starting a third world war.
In 1993 an FTL drive was successfully devoloped in the EU, leading to a major wave of space colonisation. Despite what would seem like a decrease of strain upon Earth it was still to late and the icecaps fell apart with surprising speed in the late 1990s and early 2000s. The Russians, tired from their civil war were crushed on the ground by massive Chinese armies looking to escape to cooler climes. Desperate the Russians decided to turn the war nuclear, the radiation cloud over old China also swept over Japan, forcing millions to flea to the USA which moved in to protect the still inhabital north. The USA was convinced of its superiority at this point and decided to move in and try to take over Canada, however in their desperation caused by the warming they didn't take into account that they had few other oil sources and the large amount of power they imported. After a cut off of both much of the civilian population demanded an end to the war, with New England declaring independece (though soon joining Canada for economic purposes). Another deciding factor in the failed US invasion of Canada was the newly discovered Replicant produced by the Tyrrell company in Alberta (named after the famous Museum for unknown reasons). However following the war this company began selling replicants to all major powers, and moved to LA for profit reasons.
Labeled nations are those with space fairing capabilities. Much of the tropics is chaos, officially UN controlled. Antarctica was deamed unsettleable after an American nuclear space ships crashed there and irridiated most of the continet, thought tens of thousands still call the all but lifeless land home.
2020: A bleak and desolate world.
Technology advanced faster than OTL in certain fields, however this was not a happy world. The cold war was fiercer and the environment is screwed. Despite more advanced tech the global state of affairs was more or less similiar until the late 1980s, the only noticeable difference being more space efforts. The USSR fell apart in 1989, with a rather gruesome civil war that didn't end until 1992. A few nukes were used, but Russia still remained the nation with the most nuclear weapons, they also held on to the entirity of the old USSR as no one was willing to get involved and risk starting a third world war.
In 1993 an FTL drive was successfully devoloped in the EU, leading to a major wave of space colonisation. Despite what would seem like a decrease of strain upon Earth it was still to late and the icecaps fell apart with surprising speed in the late 1990s and early 2000s. The Russians, tired from their civil war were crushed on the ground by massive Chinese armies looking to escape to cooler climes. Desperate the Russians decided to turn the war nuclear, the radiation cloud over old China also swept over Japan, forcing millions to flea to the USA which moved in to protect the still inhabital north. The USA was convinced of its superiority at this point and decided to move in and try to take over Canada, however in their desperation caused by the warming they didn't take into account that they had few other oil sources and the large amount of power they imported. After a cut off of both much of the civilian population demanded an end to the war, with New England declaring independece (though soon joining Canada for economic purposes). Another deciding factor in the failed US invasion of Canada was the newly discovered Replicant produced by the Tyrrell company in Alberta (named after the famous Museum for unknown reasons). However following the war this company began selling replicants to all major powers, and moved to LA for profit reasons.
Labeled nations are those with space fairing capabilities. Much of the tropics is chaos, officially UN controlled. Antarctica was deamed unsettleable after an American nuclear space ships crashed there and irridiated most of the continet, thought tens of thousands still call the all but lifeless land home.
I was playing around with photoshop effects. If you prefer here's the more standard one.
Oh! Nice concept, and well done on the blank map. Those things are a pain to make wholly from scratch, especially cleaning up the lines.
Looks like it'd be a lovely place to visit, gauging from the author's comments on climate.
Thande
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Not really. I just took the bloke's own labelled map from his site, cleaned it up in MSPaint until I had the continents and sea, and then used Paint.Net to outline them and painstakingly went through pixel by pixel fixing the outlines to make them perfect.
Can somebody explain to me why my ten-year-old copy of Ulead PhotoImpact (which I can't find now unfortunately), which wasn't even the full version of the programme, is still better at outlining things than any modern graphics programme I've used?
Uriels rather imaginative map on page 14 inspired me to do my own take – it struck me that the political situation (divided Spain and Russia, Commie Germany and an independent Rhinelands, etc.) didn’t seem stable enough to last through the 20th century…
So, my version. Things start to diverge in the wars for Latin American independence, although the butterflies take a while to really get going. Once the gold was found, it was wam, bam, filibuster you, Ma’m, for California.
Karl Marx still got into Socialist thinking, but butterflies were big enough by 1848 that he wrote different things from OTL, and he is considered one of three “founding fathers” (one of which OTL got rich on corn futures rather than spinning socialist theories) of modern Communism rather than the Big Dog. As a result, German socialism had a different development than OTL and was in a better position to seize opportunities when the time was right.
Which time being in *WWI, which although different enough from OTL still had Germany, Austria and Turkey on one side, and Britain, France and Russia on the other (Italy stayed out entirely). The US did not get involved, and it dragged on until revolution broke out all over Europe.
East Prussia is a right-wing Militant (read OTL *Fascist) dictatorship, and does not get along at all with the other “free” German government in the Rhinelands. The Spanish Republic was supported energetically by the Germans, the pro-monarch Loyalists (the Spanish Civil war was rather different from OTL, and dragged on till 1941) by the French and the Italians: in the end the British arm-twisted people into accepting an armistice, terrified that another round of war would lead to universal Socialist triumph (the more ideologically flexible Reds of this TL have had multiple successes, if nothing as extensive as OTLs USSR). Yugoslavia is having enough trouble with the Albanians.
The Brits as OTL made promises to the Arabs, and were better about keeping them (the leaders of the Saudi family being tied between four agitated Rashidi camels helped), although they still decided to court the Jewish Conspiracy by helping out the Zionists. Their failure to agree on the dispostion of Jerusalem and surrounding areas is providing _all_ sorts of headaches for the British governor in Palestine. The Pan-Turkic government in central Asia is facing about a dozen religious and ethnic challenges to its leadership, the economy is in poor shape, and the Siberian regime is trying to puppetize them while Red Russia sends help to local leftist groups.
As OTL, Japan got into a war with China (starting in 1935). There was no oil embargo, since the Japanese never invaded any European colonies, but the Japanese economy foundered by 1941 for lack of foreign exchange as war costs kept climbing. The army stubbornly kept fighting, but increasing leftist unrest and rioting back home led in 1943 to a “conservative” coup back home led by the Navy. Some army forces revolt and refuse to follow orders, and things are still fairly chaotic by early 1946, although a shaky armistice is in place in China and the civilian government (backed by the Navy and the Emperor) is at least in control in Japan proper. Sensing weakness, popular anti-Japanese revolts have broken out in Korea and some parts of Manchuria.
As OTL, a pasting received by the Republic at the hands of the Japanese army has been good news for the local communists, which in the confused situation in the west took over vast swathes of territory. As the republican government struggled to stamp out brush-fire revolts in other parts of the country, the Siberian military dictatorship sees an opportunity to squash Commies _and_ expand its influence in China, and sends in its own troops to “restore order”. The Germans loudly condemn this in the international press, the Chinese government tries to say thanks but no thanks, and the Russian People’s Republic sees a chance to reunify the nation…
Bruce
So, my version. Things start to diverge in the wars for Latin American independence, although the butterflies take a while to really get going. Once the gold was found, it was wam, bam, filibuster you, Ma’m, for California.
Karl Marx still got into Socialist thinking, but butterflies were big enough by 1848 that he wrote different things from OTL, and he is considered one of three “founding fathers” (one of which OTL got rich on corn futures rather than spinning socialist theories) of modern Communism rather than the Big Dog. As a result, German socialism had a different development than OTL and was in a better position to seize opportunities when the time was right.
Which time being in *WWI, which although different enough from OTL still had Germany, Austria and Turkey on one side, and Britain, France and Russia on the other (Italy stayed out entirely). The US did not get involved, and it dragged on until revolution broke out all over Europe.
East Prussia is a right-wing Militant (read OTL *Fascist) dictatorship, and does not get along at all with the other “free” German government in the Rhinelands. The Spanish Republic was supported energetically by the Germans, the pro-monarch Loyalists (the Spanish Civil war was rather different from OTL, and dragged on till 1941) by the French and the Italians: in the end the British arm-twisted people into accepting an armistice, terrified that another round of war would lead to universal Socialist triumph (the more ideologically flexible Reds of this TL have had multiple successes, if nothing as extensive as OTLs USSR). Yugoslavia is having enough trouble with the Albanians.
The Brits as OTL made promises to the Arabs, and were better about keeping them (the leaders of the Saudi family being tied between four agitated Rashidi camels helped), although they still decided to court the Jewish Conspiracy by helping out the Zionists. Their failure to agree on the dispostion of Jerusalem and surrounding areas is providing _all_ sorts of headaches for the British governor in Palestine. The Pan-Turkic government in central Asia is facing about a dozen religious and ethnic challenges to its leadership, the economy is in poor shape, and the Siberian regime is trying to puppetize them while Red Russia sends help to local leftist groups.
As OTL, Japan got into a war with China (starting in 1935). There was no oil embargo, since the Japanese never invaded any European colonies, but the Japanese economy foundered by 1941 for lack of foreign exchange as war costs kept climbing. The army stubbornly kept fighting, but increasing leftist unrest and rioting back home led in 1943 to a “conservative” coup back home led by the Navy. Some army forces revolt and refuse to follow orders, and things are still fairly chaotic by early 1946, although a shaky armistice is in place in China and the civilian government (backed by the Navy and the Emperor) is at least in control in Japan proper. Sensing weakness, popular anti-Japanese revolts have broken out in Korea and some parts of Manchuria.
As OTL, a pasting received by the Republic at the hands of the Japanese army has been good news for the local communists, which in the confused situation in the west took over vast swathes of territory. As the republican government struggled to stamp out brush-fire revolts in other parts of the country, the Siberian military dictatorship sees an opportunity to squash Commies _and_ expand its influence in China, and sends in its own troops to “restore order”. The Germans loudly condemn this in the international press, the Chinese government tries to say thanks but no thanks, and the Russian People’s Republic sees a chance to reunify the nation…
Bruce
VT45
Banned
Another map from my British Empire, more specifically the counties of Hanover. If you're wondering about the place names, all the place names in both Holland and Hanover have been greatly Anglicised. Like in Scotland, Wales, and Ireland, the ethnic Dutch and Germans within the boundaries of the British Empire are being subjected to language suppression. The British government has passed strict English-only laws that apply to all constituent countries (England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Holland, and Hanover). Children in Hanoverian schools are forced to speak English, and face severe beatings if caught speaking German. This has been policy for nearly 40 years now. As such, the original German names and language have only survived in the farthest rural reaches of the country.
Thanks to Emperor Qianlong for helping me with ideas for this.
Thanks to Emperor Qianlong for helping me with ideas for this.
Quite cool indeed. And I see being King means you don't have to shave regularly.
I seriously could _not_ find a clean-shaven photo of the man. So I decided that he'll probably maintain some of his bad habits even after taking the thone
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