Map of the Fortnight: Topic thread

B_Munro

Some twentieth century ones:

Ongoing cold war in 2010: Russia/the USSR not involved

Effects of "Second great depression" somewhere between 1945 and 2000: world or regional

Rise of a new religion: effectiveness at spreading comparable to Islam in its first century

Powerful "Third World" block

Large-scale success of non-totalitarian socialism rather than communism (a few nasty "outliers" OK)

World divided into clear-cut blocks, but more of a Great Power level of hostility rather than full blown Cold War.

Bruce
 

B_Munro

The Kiat said:
The non-aligned league, with teeth?
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I was thinking more in terms of a Bandung Conference POD, but the non-aligned movement could be in there too. Membership and what sort of teeth (economic, military, "spiritual power" :rolleyes: , etc.) being up to the map maker.

Bruce
 

Krall

Banned
The voting for MoF 18: I Am Become Death is over! And the winner is:

tormsen!​

His map concerning an alternate cold war in which earthquake machines ("oscillators") replaced conventional nuclear weaponry produced a great deal of interest from voters. Well done, old boy!


Well, without any clear support for one challenge or another at the moment, I'm going to suggest Thande's AH within an AH idea "Through A Glass, Darkly". It's a challenge with a wide scope and it will allow cartographers to get creative with their history.
 

CobaltKnight

Wouldn't that be determined by the life and circumstance of the author of the second ATL? In a world where the Soviet Union won the Cold War, an American might consider the state of the world dystopian, but a Soviet leader probably wouldn't.
 

Krall

Banned
Xwarq said:
Does Through a Glass, Darkly, have to be in a dystopian AH?
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CobaltKnight raises a good point - that the nature of the world may be subjective - but it doesn't have to be in a dystopian world by any definition of the term.

That said, dystopias are generally more interesting.
 

OAM47

There are degrees of dystopia. For instance, in the world I'm thinking about there are not many democraies left. Despite this, the rest of the world isn't a hellhole, and infact many of the non-democratic countries aren't bad places to live in, though they don't have near the freedoms we do.

By contrast, the ATL that created this ATL would see it as more dystopic then we would, as while their level of freedom is roughly the same, they have a much higher opinion of themselves then we do/would.
 

jmberry

I'd like to put forth a few ideas for upcoming contests. Some of these are some old ideas.

Lenin's Folly
The Reds lose the Russian Civil War to the Whites, and now it's WWII. The details of White Russia are up to the mapmaker (anything from an Allied democracy to a restored Tsardom to a reactionary Pro-Nazi nightmare), but Hitler must still rise to power and invade Poland.

The Crescent over China
An Islamic dynasty rises to power over China. The only restriction is that Talas must still have been a Tang victory.

The Empire of the Noon Day Sun, aka the Saxon Shogunate
Basically, India and Japan switch roles in history. Japan winds up slowly absorbed into Britain, becoming her crown jewel, while India isolates itself, opens up and modernizes, and then becomes a right-wing militarist state. POD can be anytime after Vasco da Gama's death.

Italy's Franco
In 1940, Mussolini refuses to get involved in WWII. Show a map of the peace treaty that ends the war.

Where the Buffalo and the Antelope Roam
Rather than being purchased by the US, Louisiana becomes an independent country after Waterloo. Again, the specifics are up to the mapmaker.
 

Zuvarq

Meiji'd: A nation that remained backwards for some time, or was conquered by a technologically superior enemy, westernized. This includes all Native American nations and tribes, all Sub-Saharan nations and tribes, and all South Asian and Southeast Asian nations and tribes.

Pyrrhic VICTORY!: A nation that was easily conquered by a larger power in reality, becomes a large power by winning one or more conflicts against unimaginable odds.
 

anon_user

Risorgimento: Show an AH unification movement on the lines of the formation of Italy or Germany, but with whatever 'people' you choose.
 

fly.fearless

Biological genocide: At any given point in time, have a specific pandemic disease only inherent in people of any one race or ethnicity, systematically wipe out all members of that given ethnicity.
 

Municipal Engines

Xwarq said:
Meiji'd: A nation that remained backwards for some time, or was conquered by a technologically superior enemy, westernized. This includes all Native American nations and tribes, all Sub-Saharan nations and tribes, and all South Asian and Southeast Asian nations and tribes.

Pyrrhic VICTORY!: A nation that was easily conquered by a larger power in reality, becomes a large power by winning one or more conflicts against unimaginable odds.
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I like these ones, especially the Pyrrhic VICTORY! one.
 

Penelope

Banned
Underdog Victory: Create a map of the world in which a small country in OTL became a superpower on the world stage in the Age of Discovery.
 

Zuvarq

B_Munro said:
So a Pyrrhic VICTORY is, kinda, the opposite of a Pyrrhic victory?

Bruce
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Yes. It can be extremely implausible but not literally ASB with aliens or divine intervention or anything. The most obvious example being Pyrrhus of Epirus winning the Pyrrhic war against Rome, later leading to total conquest of the Roman Republic. Or if the Byzantines reconquered all of Greece from the Ottomans instead of being conquered in 1453.
 
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