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Hi, this is my first map (its no art, just information)
You can still add some color.
It wouldn't hurt to indicate which is which.
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You can still add some color.
It wouldn't hurt to indicate which is which.
I'm actually considering making this a TL.
Canada retakes Quebec after some vicous guerilla fighting that continues after occupation. The native French-Canadians are placed under martial law, and any leaders of the former state are arrested and executed publicly.
The USA also begins work on nuclear physics.
Germany manages to retake parts of the French advance under a detereoating Hitler. The German leaders begin to note Hitler's apparent dementia and obsession to beat the French. Warfare begins to slog down to semi-trench warfare when neither side can mount an advantage. The British also face the same problem, adding to the problems, Dutch and North German citezens mount a resistance to the British.
The Germans, however, mount a sudden invasion of Yugoslavia. The remaining generals and leaders in Nazi Germany are puzzled and worried on why Hitler would want this. German forces are beginning to be bogged down on the front.
In the Middle East, Mussolini annexes Saudi Arabia and continues taking over the area. While the world isn't looking, however, Italy begins working on weapons with help from Albert Einstien.
The Soviets use mass numbers to fight Finland, but even with an advantage, they do not make a major gain.
The Chino-Soviet War begins to take a turn for the U.S.S.R. when they establish the People's Republic of Manchuria and take over most of North-Western China.
Japan fully incorparates the East Indies as part of thier mini-empire.
Canada retakes Quebec after some vicous guerilla fighting that continues after occupation. The native French-Canadians are placed under martial law, and any leaders of the former state are arrested and executed publicly.
The USA also begins work on nuclear physics.
Germany manages to retake parts of the French advance under a detereoating Hitler. The German leaders begin to note Hitler's apparent dementia and obsession to beat the French. Warfare begins to slog down to semi-trench warfare when neither side can mount an advantage. The British also face the same problem, adding to the problems, Dutch and North German citezens mount a resistance to the British.
The Germans, however, mount a sudden invasion of Yugoslavia. The remaining generals and leaders in Nazi Germany are puzzled and worried on why Hitler would want this. German forces are beginning to be bogged down on the front.
In the Middle East, Mussolini annexes Saudi Arabia and continues taking over the area. While the world isn't looking, however, Italy begins working on weapons with help from Albert Einstien.
The Soviets use mass numbers to fight Finland, but even with an advantage, they do not make a major gain.
The Chino-Soviet War begins to take a turn for the U.S.S.R. when they establish the People's Republic of Manchuria and take over most of North-Western China.
Japan fully incorparates the East Indies as part of thier mini-empire.
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Bonus points if Rastafarians become popular in Japan proper after the West Indies are incorporated.
Unless someone moved the Prime Meridian while I wasn't looking, those are the East Indies, not the West...
Thanks decker, and Canis Lupus.
I decided to do a map series of the Confederate Civil War (that's why I wanted feedback, to figure out if it was a good idea or not). I'm going to try to fit all of the information into the maps themselves, textbook-style. Now, the original map is out of order, coming toward the end of the war, but from now on everything's strictly chronological; no more nosebleed-inducing jumping around in time
First, an election map.
PS: decker, if you want to see the big bad Yankees kicking around the poor little CSA, you won't be disappointed.
I decided to do a map series of the Confederate Civil War (that's why I wanted feedback, to figure out if it was a good idea or not). I'm going to try to fit all of the information into the maps themselves, textbook-style. Now, the original map is out of order, coming toward the end of the war, but from now on everything's strictly chronological; no more nosebleed-inducing jumping around in time
First, an election map.
PS: decker, if you want to see the big bad Yankees kicking around the poor little CSA, you won't be disappointed.
@Desmond Hume:
Good stuff, but I think a textbook would name the Presidential candidates in question. Textbooks are big on names and dates -- easier to write a pop quiz that way.
(If you don't have any historical personages in mind, just make up some names -- given 70-odd years of butterflies it would be more plausible.)
Good stuff, but I think a textbook would name the Presidential candidates in question. Textbooks are big on names and dates -- easier to write a pop quiz that way.
(If you don't have any historical personages in mind, just make up some names -- given 70-odd years of butterflies it would be more plausible.)
A little future map.
2079, and the world's last non-CO2-sequestering coal-burning power plant, in Mongolia, has been shut down. The bulk of the world's power needs are met by solar, wind, hydro-thermal, nuclear, and fusion power (alas, fusion has not replaced fission: it turns out the infrastructure is even bulkier, and He-3 nowithstanding, secondary reactions mean that the inside inevitably gets increasingly radioactive, and will need replacing). Some oil is still used, mostly from tars and coal shales, but the need for thorough waste product scrubbing, sequestration, and the horrible environmental bill for cleaning up after the mining makes it increasingly uncompeditive.
It's a hydrogen and superconducting battery powered world, where air travel is expensive (unless you use a solar-powered zep) but virtual reality communications are cheap and universal, where "real food" is pricy but synthetic food-type products and the various edible products of bioengineering are plentiful, where most people live in cities but the water supply is often stingy, where you can get a robots-eye-view from dozens of probes on Pluto or Venus or swimming the sub-ice seas of Europa, but where the robot-built "forward base" on Mars has been in operation for a decade but no human beings have so far got around to populating it.
The world's population topped out at almost 11 billion and is now declining, although Africa still has enough surplus people that China let in some 30 million in the last decade to help with their increasingly serious labor shortages. (China has made a lot of progress, but it's still not tech-savvy enough to deal with the problem with robotics the way the Japanese have [1]) Much of the EU, in spite of Latin American and African immigration, has suffered so much depopulation (rurals to the city as well as population decline, and in the med, movement away from areas hard-hit by the Warming) that large areas are now under special administration as"special needs" regions suffering from severe depopulation and economic shrinkage.
Overall, things are on an upswing: biotech and synthetics have put an end to large-scale famine, the world has managed to shift to a post-fossil fuels paradigm, and a strengthened UN keeps some ecologically deeply screwed areas from collapse. Most of the world lives under democratic governments, if often intrusive, bureaucratic, and cheese-paring ones.
The US is still the leading power: total GNP may be lower than China's nowadays, but in GNP/capita and high-tech it's still well ahead of it's Asian compeditor for the number one spot. Population is still growing due to immigration, and Canada and Mexico have become even more closely economically (if not politically) integrated. The Theocratic America project is finally dead, say the pundits, although the corpse still seems to be kicking in parts of the midwest. Population has moved northward and northeastward, and as food production has moved indoors or Canada-ways, much formerly cultivated land has turned to wilderness. (The Move Canada's Rivers South project is still being held up by some Canadians and their silly blither about environmental catastrophe).
The Caribbean Federation, a surprise success story of the 21st century, is doing ok, although increased bad weather means a lot of the construction is underground. In south America, religious "caretakers of the Earth" ideas, Bolivarian socialism, Green politics, and technocracy have all combined into what might indeed be called eco-fascism, but which a lot of people consider a rational response to the last 100 years. The Ecolitan Union is regulated up the whazoo, but is also very open to any sort of "green" tech, and is unafraid of biotech and genetic engineering as tools for re-greening the planet. It is the home of E.R., Unlimited, perhaps the world's largest corporation, the world's leader in reversing environmental damage or adapting an environment to new climate conditions: some quite sizeable portions of the planet are pretty much run by the corporation.
The EU is rich, civilized, and still hasn't become a true "united states of Europe", although it edged closer during the very bad years from the early twenties to the early sixties. It's old, if not as much as Japan, and varying locally: France has grown substantially, and for some reason the Swedes currently have a well-above-replacement birth rate. It has begun expanding into Africa and the Middle East, although so far only Tunisia has met joining requirements in that continent. (There is currently a heated debate as to changing the organization's name).
After flourishing in the troubled conditions of the first half of the 21st century, the Islamic fundamentalist movement has largely burned itself out after achieving very little of practical usefulness. It is currently being challenged by a new universalist Sufism and also by a new Islamic rationalist movement, whose fierce iconoclasm oddly does not translate into a veneration of Europe and N. America. Egypt has returned to a multi-party system, although it's government remains opposed to returning the Hejaz to the Arabian Republic, where old-fashioned Wahabbism has largely been pushed aside by a very odd socialistic-technocratic from of Islamicism based on "scientific" principles bolstered by the OHMYGODKILLITWITHFIRE memory of the last Saudi King's rather...unique... porn collection.
Africa has been hit hard by global warming, especially the Sahel and South Africa, and much of the continent has been under UN control at one time or another. Although much of SW Africa has turned to rather extreme desert, a functional civilization remains in the cities, and if the loans are ever floated for the fusion desalinization project, combined with the Namibian solar power farms, the SW African Association may yet get off life support. Better off is the Central African Economic Union, which wasn't hit as hard by environmental change, although the sprawl of Greater Nairobi, with it's 20 million inhabitants and water shortages so severe that people have returned to the medieval habit of using lots of perfume rather than bathing, does have something of an infamous reputation.
The elderly dictator of Liberia is still annoyed that he managed to make his homeland into a functional state, went on to conquer and incorporate Sierra Leon and Guinea, and nobody paid attention.
Lebanon has broken up, there are currently three Palestinian states, one on what used to be part of Jordan, and the Israelis inhabit a cyberneticized panopticon that constantly tracks every single person within their SmartWire and CyberBugSwarm borders. Only the guilty, and those statistically analyzed to likely be guilty later, have anything to fear. East of Greater Syria, lie the bulk of the Shi'a lands, which after a rather bad patch have managed to develop a working balance between Islam and democracy after Religious Decree From Above didn't do that much good in the 2020-2050 period. Iran has it's own problems with an elderly population, and the local pundits mutter about a takeover of the country by Muslim immigrants (Sunni ones, that is).
To the north, demographic collapse, crap government, and oil exhuastion brought a new Russian Time of troubles, during which Chechnia, Tatarstan, and some other bits broke away. At the end, Siberia decided to go with renewed democratic practices and alliance with China (Siberia is as of 2079 about 1/3 Chinese) while after a period of military rule, the west ended up under a somewhat whacky regime which decided to go with Russia's rich historical traditions in solving it's economic, social, and demographic relations, taking 2057 economics, 1957 political arrangements, and 1557 gender relations and making an ugly ol' omelet. (the Tatar republic is understandably nervous).
Although also hit by climate change, the Chinese government held the country together with a mix of grit, determination, and sheer meanness. The Yellow River plain is somewhat depopulated, the cities of the south are insanely huge, the old Communist party has largely disintegrated, and China now has the world's largest economy, even if many of it's people are still pretty poor by 2079 standards. Tibetans are happy that Chinese migration has to some extent reversed itself, less happy about the continued high radiation background from one of the Chinese governments more audatious drought-fighting efforts, involving huge new Himalayan ice-melt reservoirs, and the application of nuclear power. [2]
East and SE Asia is currently split between two major economic blocks: China and the states economically dominated by it, and those states - led by the Indonesian-Japanese alliance - who do not want to be dominated by the Chinese.
Australia nowadays is a manufacturing and services country, mostly - since the 60-year drought set in, they've had to largely give up on the agriculture thing. Still, food can be imported or manufactured, water can be desalinated, and the Australians are now embarking on an effort to essentially recolonize some of the more dried-out parts of their continent, even if they have to move a large part of the Gulf of Carpentaria to the Gibson Desert. Easy-going folks 2079 Australians are not.
India was hit hard and early by global climate change driven drought, high fuel and food prices, before new technology and substitutes were readily available. The central goevernment for a while ceased to function in much of the continent, and for a while India was broken up into several states not very happy with the former political center. By 2079, however, India is well on the road to recovery, the last UN stablization teams have left, and the subcontinent has been reunited as a somewhat looser federation. Still, its bid to join China as a superpower has been delayed for some decades.
The Islamic Union is the last of the old-style Sharia-law Muslim dictatorships, created out of the ruins of old Pakistan and Afghanistan. It is also, ironically, a nation with some of the world's stricted regulations on population control: in spite of imported technologies and gene-engineered foodstuffs, the nation has been quivering on the Malthusian edge for quite some time. Outsiders, much to the regimes annoyance, find further ironic amusement in the fact that, aside from Shi'a seperatists, the principal thread to the regime's stability is Rationalist terrorism...
Bruce
[1] Mostly. Although robots can now tap-dance and simulate a snappy conversation, they're still not actually _sentient_, and the Japanese have let in a trickle of skilled foreigners to deal with stuff neither robots nor their cyberneticized gerontocracy can deal with. And there are a number of young subcultures which are into reproduction, although the gerontocrats generally find them suspiciously wierd.
[2] Stolen from Bruce Sterling, I'll admit.
2079, and the world's last non-CO2-sequestering coal-burning power plant, in Mongolia, has been shut down. The bulk of the world's power needs are met by solar, wind, hydro-thermal, nuclear, and fusion power (alas, fusion has not replaced fission: it turns out the infrastructure is even bulkier, and He-3 nowithstanding, secondary reactions mean that the inside inevitably gets increasingly radioactive, and will need replacing). Some oil is still used, mostly from tars and coal shales, but the need for thorough waste product scrubbing, sequestration, and the horrible environmental bill for cleaning up after the mining makes it increasingly uncompeditive.
It's a hydrogen and superconducting battery powered world, where air travel is expensive (unless you use a solar-powered zep) but virtual reality communications are cheap and universal, where "real food" is pricy but synthetic food-type products and the various edible products of bioengineering are plentiful, where most people live in cities but the water supply is often stingy, where you can get a robots-eye-view from dozens of probes on Pluto or Venus or swimming the sub-ice seas of Europa, but where the robot-built "forward base" on Mars has been in operation for a decade but no human beings have so far got around to populating it.
The world's population topped out at almost 11 billion and is now declining, although Africa still has enough surplus people that China let in some 30 million in the last decade to help with their increasingly serious labor shortages. (China has made a lot of progress, but it's still not tech-savvy enough to deal with the problem with robotics the way the Japanese have [1]) Much of the EU, in spite of Latin American and African immigration, has suffered so much depopulation (rurals to the city as well as population decline, and in the med, movement away from areas hard-hit by the Warming) that large areas are now under special administration as"special needs" regions suffering from severe depopulation and economic shrinkage.
Overall, things are on an upswing: biotech and synthetics have put an end to large-scale famine, the world has managed to shift to a post-fossil fuels paradigm, and a strengthened UN keeps some ecologically deeply screwed areas from collapse. Most of the world lives under democratic governments, if often intrusive, bureaucratic, and cheese-paring ones.
The US is still the leading power: total GNP may be lower than China's nowadays, but in GNP/capita and high-tech it's still well ahead of it's Asian compeditor for the number one spot. Population is still growing due to immigration, and Canada and Mexico have become even more closely economically (if not politically) integrated. The Theocratic America project is finally dead, say the pundits, although the corpse still seems to be kicking in parts of the midwest. Population has moved northward and northeastward, and as food production has moved indoors or Canada-ways, much formerly cultivated land has turned to wilderness. (The Move Canada's Rivers South project is still being held up by some Canadians and their silly blither about environmental catastrophe).
The Caribbean Federation, a surprise success story of the 21st century, is doing ok, although increased bad weather means a lot of the construction is underground. In south America, religious "caretakers of the Earth" ideas, Bolivarian socialism, Green politics, and technocracy have all combined into what might indeed be called eco-fascism, but which a lot of people consider a rational response to the last 100 years. The Ecolitan Union is regulated up the whazoo, but is also very open to any sort of "green" tech, and is unafraid of biotech and genetic engineering as tools for re-greening the planet. It is the home of E.R., Unlimited, perhaps the world's largest corporation, the world's leader in reversing environmental damage or adapting an environment to new climate conditions: some quite sizeable portions of the planet are pretty much run by the corporation.
The EU is rich, civilized, and still hasn't become a true "united states of Europe", although it edged closer during the very bad years from the early twenties to the early sixties. It's old, if not as much as Japan, and varying locally: France has grown substantially, and for some reason the Swedes currently have a well-above-replacement birth rate. It has begun expanding into Africa and the Middle East, although so far only Tunisia has met joining requirements in that continent. (There is currently a heated debate as to changing the organization's name).
After flourishing in the troubled conditions of the first half of the 21st century, the Islamic fundamentalist movement has largely burned itself out after achieving very little of practical usefulness. It is currently being challenged by a new universalist Sufism and also by a new Islamic rationalist movement, whose fierce iconoclasm oddly does not translate into a veneration of Europe and N. America. Egypt has returned to a multi-party system, although it's government remains opposed to returning the Hejaz to the Arabian Republic, where old-fashioned Wahabbism has largely been pushed aside by a very odd socialistic-technocratic from of Islamicism based on "scientific" principles bolstered by the OHMYGODKILLITWITHFIRE memory of the last Saudi King's rather...unique... porn collection.
Africa has been hit hard by global warming, especially the Sahel and South Africa, and much of the continent has been under UN control at one time or another. Although much of SW Africa has turned to rather extreme desert, a functional civilization remains in the cities, and if the loans are ever floated for the fusion desalinization project, combined with the Namibian solar power farms, the SW African Association may yet get off life support. Better off is the Central African Economic Union, which wasn't hit as hard by environmental change, although the sprawl of Greater Nairobi, with it's 20 million inhabitants and water shortages so severe that people have returned to the medieval habit of using lots of perfume rather than bathing, does have something of an infamous reputation.
The elderly dictator of Liberia is still annoyed that he managed to make his homeland into a functional state, went on to conquer and incorporate Sierra Leon and Guinea, and nobody paid attention.
Lebanon has broken up, there are currently three Palestinian states, one on what used to be part of Jordan, and the Israelis inhabit a cyberneticized panopticon that constantly tracks every single person within their SmartWire and CyberBugSwarm borders. Only the guilty, and those statistically analyzed to likely be guilty later, have anything to fear. East of Greater Syria, lie the bulk of the Shi'a lands, which after a rather bad patch have managed to develop a working balance between Islam and democracy after Religious Decree From Above didn't do that much good in the 2020-2050 period. Iran has it's own problems with an elderly population, and the local pundits mutter about a takeover of the country by Muslim immigrants (Sunni ones, that is).
To the north, demographic collapse, crap government, and oil exhuastion brought a new Russian Time of troubles, during which Chechnia, Tatarstan, and some other bits broke away. At the end, Siberia decided to go with renewed democratic practices and alliance with China (Siberia is as of 2079 about 1/3 Chinese) while after a period of military rule, the west ended up under a somewhat whacky regime which decided to go with Russia's rich historical traditions in solving it's economic, social, and demographic relations, taking 2057 economics, 1957 political arrangements, and 1557 gender relations and making an ugly ol' omelet. (the Tatar republic is understandably nervous).
Although also hit by climate change, the Chinese government held the country together with a mix of grit, determination, and sheer meanness. The Yellow River plain is somewhat depopulated, the cities of the south are insanely huge, the old Communist party has largely disintegrated, and China now has the world's largest economy, even if many of it's people are still pretty poor by 2079 standards. Tibetans are happy that Chinese migration has to some extent reversed itself, less happy about the continued high radiation background from one of the Chinese governments more audatious drought-fighting efforts, involving huge new Himalayan ice-melt reservoirs, and the application of nuclear power. [2]
East and SE Asia is currently split between two major economic blocks: China and the states economically dominated by it, and those states - led by the Indonesian-Japanese alliance - who do not want to be dominated by the Chinese.
Australia nowadays is a manufacturing and services country, mostly - since the 60-year drought set in, they've had to largely give up on the agriculture thing. Still, food can be imported or manufactured, water can be desalinated, and the Australians are now embarking on an effort to essentially recolonize some of the more dried-out parts of their continent, even if they have to move a large part of the Gulf of Carpentaria to the Gibson Desert. Easy-going folks 2079 Australians are not.
India was hit hard and early by global climate change driven drought, high fuel and food prices, before new technology and substitutes were readily available. The central goevernment for a while ceased to function in much of the continent, and for a while India was broken up into several states not very happy with the former political center. By 2079, however, India is well on the road to recovery, the last UN stablization teams have left, and the subcontinent has been reunited as a somewhat looser federation. Still, its bid to join China as a superpower has been delayed for some decades.
The Islamic Union is the last of the old-style Sharia-law Muslim dictatorships, created out of the ruins of old Pakistan and Afghanistan. It is also, ironically, a nation with some of the world's stricted regulations on population control: in spite of imported technologies and gene-engineered foodstuffs, the nation has been quivering on the Malthusian edge for quite some time. Outsiders, much to the regimes annoyance, find further ironic amusement in the fact that, aside from Shi'a seperatists, the principal thread to the regime's stability is Rationalist terrorism...
Bruce
[1] Mostly. Although robots can now tap-dance and simulate a snappy conversation, they're still not actually _sentient_, and the Japanese have let in a trickle of skilled foreigners to deal with stuff neither robots nor their cyberneticized gerontocracy can deal with. And there are a number of young subcultures which are into reproduction, although the gerontocrats generally find them suspiciously wierd.
[2] Stolen from Bruce Sterling, I'll admit.
February 9th, 2122 CE.
The Muslims have unleashed their plot for world domination, by outbreeding the population of Dearborn and spreading across Michigan and elsewhere, breeding like rabbits. Washington, DC was mysteriously destroyed by a nuclear weapon, and the Muslims promptly took over, and began expanding like crazy.
Fearing the worst, the gays of New England established the Gaysexual Empire, crowning fashion designer Francis Hendy as Emperor Francis I. New Jersey fell under control of the Gaysexuals.
Fearing the even worst, the crazys in the South formed Jesusland, electing Jesus Christ as their President. The old New Yorkers broke away and formed the country of Old People. In the midst of this, Miami fell under the control of Columbia.
Texas broke away from Jesusland after the contested presidential election that won Jesus a second term, and they promptly expanded to prevent the Michigan Caliphate from expanding further. They named George Bush their Emperor.
The Mormons of Utah banded together and created the new nation of Deseret. Fearing the Mormons and the Muslims, several states formed the Republic of the Liberal Agenda, proclaiming communism as the state religion.
An uneasy peace was formed, but now, these nations are on the brink of war.
The Muslims have unleashed their plot for world domination, by outbreeding the population of Dearborn and spreading across Michigan and elsewhere, breeding like rabbits. Washington, DC was mysteriously destroyed by a nuclear weapon, and the Muslims promptly took over, and began expanding like crazy.
Fearing the worst, the gays of New England established the Gaysexual Empire, crowning fashion designer Francis Hendy as Emperor Francis I. New Jersey fell under control of the Gaysexuals.
Fearing the even worst, the crazys in the South formed Jesusland, electing Jesus Christ as their President. The old New Yorkers broke away and formed the country of Old People. In the midst of this, Miami fell under the control of Columbia.
Texas broke away from Jesusland after the contested presidential election that won Jesus a second term, and they promptly expanded to prevent the Michigan Caliphate from expanding further. They named George Bush their Emperor.
The Mormons of Utah banded together and created the new nation of Deseret. Fearing the Mormons and the Muslims, several states formed the Republic of the Liberal Agenda, proclaiming communism as the state religion.
An uneasy peace was formed, but now, these nations are on the brink of war.
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Hello! First time posting on the map thread! Here's a post-apocalyptic/global warming map of sorts. I'd like to thank Trovador & Euio for thier help on finding the map. I just added the effects. I hope to add some nations to it soon. You can find the thread this is from here https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=129195
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