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Any tips on how to improve my world continents? How can i make it more interesting?

Really nice map. two small things:

1. Islands. if the continents moved they had probably should have left pieces behind, some island and other stuff.

2. The matching between the continents.

Now I know that it was said before, but i thought it was important enough to be said again.

What do you say about making a map game or something like that out of that map?
 
Another map from my Third World War universe:

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Oh wow that is sexy! very interesting borders for Poland, but still quite plausible I should think. Personally I'm a sucker for Polish Silesia and German Pomerania (if only because the extra bit of coast helps it feel just that bit much more Prussian you know?), but this is lovely as well. Got a clearer version of the flag around? Also; regarding the languages, should I assume there wasn't mass expulsions and population trades to the extant of OTL in this timeline?
 
The 2066 Edition of the Siri Fund Synthetic Freedom Index

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The index is composed of five categories: legal personhood, freedom of expression, democratic representation, labor protections, and enforcement of protective legislation. These categories go from 0.00 - 2.00, and are then summed together to give the final score.

Robocide Watch's U.S. Synthetic Protections Map
(Last Update, March 16th, 2067)

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While TXC884-RE192's (personal name: Tyzer Hawken) sense of black humor may inhibit the potential detail of the map, Robocide Watch is very good with keeping track of developments, as well as having detailed lists and citations of the various legislation or activities in question.
 
No comments on my map? (I haven't heard from Mumby and I am beginning to fear it's a bit meh...)
It's quite a good map; I only ever played Fallout 3 and the history and politics I found either unbelievable or confusing so this is a refreshingly sensible take on a very chaotic universe.

I am curious about one thing: how ideologically similar are the 'nullification' movements to the old USA (representation, private property, liberty, and all that)? Do they receive funding from the Chinese?
 

Jcw3

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Jesus, Poland. What got your panties in a wad?

Also, how in the world is Pakistan doing better than America?
 
Jesus, Poland. What got your panties in a wad?

Also, how in the world is Pakistan doing better than America?

Well, the map would seem to represent the rights of sentient/sapient Artificial Intelligences, which probably would not be very good in the get go, and since the map is of the mid 2060's, it's probably been about 20-25 years since the first sapient AI came into existence.
 

Jcw3

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Well, the map would seem to represent the rights of sentient/sapient Artificial Intelligences, which probably would not be very good in the get go, and since the map is of the mid 2060's, it's probably been about 20-25 years since the first sapient AI came into existence.

I know and (mostly) understand the backstory. I'm just curious as to how Poland and Pakistan wound up that way.

I've never quite understood the fear of or bigotry towards AI's. If they're well regulated and we ensure their sanity, then they're just our children, metaphorically speaking.
 
Jesus, Poland. What got your panties in a wad?

Also, how in the world is Pakistan doing better than America?

I would like to point out that Poland isn't the only country to have been painted black on the map (just the only one in the last six years.) At this point, there's probably not a single synth in the country. The ruling United Poland (a Maximalist Populist party) simply keeps running a constant country-wide witch hunt to retain power. That being said, security forces there all carry micro-blowtorches, so it's not a good idea for a synth to pay a visit.

As for Pakistan, ever since the governing All-Pakistani Social Revolutionary Movement came to power in the Quiet Revolution, the government, like many other Synthesis Marxist parties, has passed legislation granting equal rights to synthetics, as well as a policy to promote synthetic acceptance and wellbeing. As of 2066, Pakistan's General Assembly has 28 (out of 492) seats held by synthetic persons, and around one-twelfth of the delegate seats of the Congress of Collectives are currently filled by synths. This is in addition to various regional assemblies and collective boards that have synthetic representatives/delegates.
 
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No comments on my map? (I haven't heard from Mumby and I am beginning to fear it's a bit meh...)

No, no! I really like it. I suppose a bit of me was expecting it to be set in the 23rd century but that would have been rather ambitious. I only didn't reply because I got it in the evening of Christmas Eve. I was concentrating on the festive spirit yesterday. I don't think it will be necessary to have a paint document for the notes. I'll just print off both at home. I'll have to go into town to get the map printed off.
 

Ryan

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No comments on my map? (I haven't heard from Mumby and I am beginning to fear it's a bit meh...)

I don't understand how China is still a viable state and an actual rival of the US still. AFAIK China was defeated in the US invasion and had no resources left, so when the US pulls out it would surely collapse into anarchy and warlordism.
 
With that situation (synthicide in Poland, good or excellent Rights in Ukraine), wouldn't there be a constant refugee crisis in Ukraine?

Also, which other countries formerly had actively synthicidal policies?
 

Dorozhand

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Oh wow that is sexy! very interesting borders for Poland, but still quite plausible I should think. Personally I'm a sucker for Polish Silesia and German Pomerania (if only because the extra bit of coast helps it feel just that bit much more Prussian you know?), but this is lovely as well. Got a clearer version of the flag around? Also; regarding the languages, should I assume there wasn't mass expulsions and population trades to the extant of OTL in this timeline?

A little background on this world:

This timeline's USSR avoided the excesses of Stalin's rule and under Nikolai Bukharin (who took power after a brief civil war against the Stalinists in 1929) built up an industrial powerhouse without millions of deaths. The gradual trend towards voluntary collectivization during the 20s continued without turning into a violent forced action and food production under peasant collective land ownership (combined with a movement not unlike the OTL Virgin Lands Campaign, but more organic, which brought new areas under cultivation), without the farce of OTL's Kolkhoz system which reduced the farmers to serfs and state employees, produced a food surplus, while the state fixed food prices to match wages. Bukharinist Communism in the USSR, under this system, became something of a resounding success as a viable economic and political way of life, while under his rule the USSR's political apparatus became increasingly democratized within the party.

While all this had been going on, Germany fell to Nazism as OTL in 1933, annexing Austria and the Sudetenland and in the summer of 1939 invaded Poland. The Polish army put up a tenacious resistance for nearly four months, while the USSR actually supplied some arms to the Poles, though the Soviets remained neutral for the moment. This changed in May of 1941 when Germany launched Operation Sunset, the invasion of the USSR. The invasion was met with competent defense, though German analysts had been more cautious in their planning due to the stronger position of the Soviets, the inherent problems in the Wehrmacht and the German economy did not prevent the invasion from failing. The Red Army, under the command of men like Voroshilov and Tukhachevsky, without the purges of Stalin, executed a fighting retreat to defensible lines in Belarus and Ukraine, while the Germans concentrated most of their efforts on the north and taking Leningrad.

Operation Sunset stalled in Smolensk, Orel, Voronezh, and Poltava, while the northern offensive was driven back from the gates of Leningrad. Afterwards it was slowly rolled back, the Soviets liberating the Baltic states and setting up Communist governments which would join the USSR, liberating Poland, Hungary, Austria, Italy, Yugoslavia, Greece, Albania, Bulgaria, Romania, Czechoslovakia, the Netherlands and Germany east of the Rhine in a string of successful offensives on the part of the ever strengthening Red Army. The Second World War ended in Europe in November of 1943 with the surrender of all German armies at Frankfurt after the Soviets and their allies swept through Berlin and France liberated itself in a rebellion led by the Free French Army and along with the British and US Army met the Red Army at the Rhine.

Europe was left with less devastation in general and the nations of Europe managed to hold onto their colonial empires with greater strength, using them for resources, troops, to test weapons, and to provide ideological, political and military footholds.

The Soviets liberated all of Manchuria and Korea and a land invasion of the Japanese islands led to the division of Japan and the end of the War in the Pacific in February 1944. Chinese communists led by Mao Zedong defeated the KMT and founded the People's Republic of China.

France ended up annexing the Rhineland with American blessing to bolster its industrial capacity in the case of war with the USSR, while in the Eastern Bloc, the newly established People's Socialist Republic of Poland annexed Pomerania and East Prussia while the People's Republic of Germany kept Silesia. Vilnius was annexed by Lithuania while the Polish border underwent minor readjustments elsewhere. There was no expulsion of the Germans from eastern Europe except in small instances.

In 1962, the Third World War would erupt after French agents detonated a bomb, killing several German officials including the well liked State President Max Reimann. The War in Europe consisted largely of two fronts along the Rhine and the Rhone rivers, and in the Swiss Alps. These fronts would result in millions of casualties in a long and grueling war of great destruction and loss, in which the Polish People's Army, Navy, and Air Force fought with great effectiveness. Poland escaped much of the worst destruction, though the country would be fairly heavily bombed by the Western Allies. Polish soldiers also fought in the Japanese, Indochinese, Middle Eastern, African, and Indian fronts at various points. A few Polish pilots even volunteered to fight in Mexico when the US invaded the Socialist Union of the Mexican States, where they are today regarded as national heroes.

The war would end with the development of nuclear weapons by both sides near simultaneously. A series of limited tactical exchanges in Europe and one large strategic weapon used by the Americans on Korea, the threat of world destruction and the continuing unbreakable stalemate prompted a ceasefire. The Peace of Metz ended hostilities in Europe, while separate agreements would be declared across the other fronts and between nearly all nations within a few months.

That's just a cursory overview.
 
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I don't understand how China is still a viable state and an actual rival of the US still. AFAIK China was defeated in the US invasion and had no resources left, so when the US pulls out it would surely collapse into anarchy and warlordism.

Didn't you read the write up? Things never escalated to that point. There was no invasion of Alaska, no Yangtze campaign.
 
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