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With the Civil Rights Movement in America, I wonder if there would be groups that endorse the Three Principles. Also, I wonder how China would react to the Civil Rights Movement?
That said, what are the chances you have American Political Movements endorse their own version of the Three Principles of the People? I could see Civil Rights Groups or American Political Parties adopt a sort of Civic Nationalist Ideology that is inspired by Sun Yat-Sen's Three Principles of the People, a sort of American Nationalism that is Progressive encouraging Egalitarianism and Georgist Economic Positions.
I could see Progressive American Nationalists/"New" American Nationalists try to create an inspiration of Sun's Three Principles while using the symbolism of Abraham Lincoln (Lincoln being the Liberator of Slaves, and the Great Unifier of America).
American Nationalists who support Civil Rights could adopt the view that they support it because they believe it would better unite the American People.
Plus with the distribution of Maoist Ideology in the Third World in OTL being popular with a number of Communist Groups, what about an equivalent with the Three Principles of the People inspiring Revolutionary Nationalist Movements in South America and Africa (Especially with Decolonization)?
The Three Principles could be the sort of Revolutionary Alternative to both Communism and Capitalism, so like folks who aren't fans of the Soviets and Americans settling for "Non-Aligned" Chinese support.
 
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With the Civil Rights Movement in America, I wonder if there would be groups that endorse the Three Principles. Also, I wonder how China would react to the Civil Rights Movement?
That said, what are the chances you have American Political Movements endorse their own version of the Three Principles of the People? I could see Civil Rights Groups or American Political Parties adopt a sort of Civic Nationalist Ideology that is inspired by Sun Yat-Sen's Three Principles of the People, a sort of American Nationalism that is Progressive encouraging Egalitarianism and Georgist Economic Positions.
I could see Progressive American Nationalists/"New" American Nationalists try to create an inspiration of Sun's Three Principles while using the symbolism of Abraham Lincoln (Lincoln being the Liberator of Slaves, and the Great Unifier of America).
American Nationalists who support Civil Rights could adopt the view that they support it because they believe it would better unite the American People.
And it could be a good allohistorical allusion to how the New Left included Maoist-aligned groups.
 
And it could be a good allohistorical allusion to how the New Left included Maoist-aligned groups.
Plus I could see the American-Inspired Tridemists/Three Principles being split in America.
  • Left-Wing American Tridemists who follow Sun Yat-Sen's Doctrine would mostly have the appeal of Progressives and Liberals. They would support Sun Yat-Sen's Progressive Views, as well his Georgist Economic policies. This group would be popular with many civic nationalist movements emerging leading to a "Civil Rights Nationalism" with Left-Wing/Centrist Nationalist parties and activist groups forming as a result. They would strongly support Civil Rights and adopt a Civic Nationalism much like Sun Yat-Sen, wanting to create a more equal American nation.
  • Right-Wing American Tridemists who follow Chiang Kai-Shek's Regime mostly consisting of Conservatives (Conservatives who aren't too pleased with the Democrat or Republican Parties). They would support strong Anti-Communist Policies (Inspired by Chiang Kai-Shek's Victory of crushing Mao with Chiang being praised as "containing" Communism from spreading) and wish to have America governed by policies similar to Chiang Kai-Shek's New Life Movement. Although this movement would largely be overshadowed by the Left-Wing Tridemists who have more of an appeal especially with American Youth. Those who are a part of the Right-Wing don't really care about the Three Principles, they are only with the Right-Wing Tridemists mostly because of Anti-Communism. Unlike Left-Wing Tridemists who have organized parties and activist groups, they would mostly exist as conservative think-tanks and advocacy organizations similar to the John Birch Society.
Kinda like how Peronism in Argentina was split between Left-Wing Factions and Right-Wing Factions.
 
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With the Civil Rights Movement in America, I wonder if there would be groups that endorse the Three Principles. Also, I wonder how China would react to the Civil Rights Movement?
China supports the American Civil Rights Movement. Some civil rights groups might be influenced by Chiang's China and the Three Principles.
That said, what are the chances you have American Political Movements endorse their own version of the Three Principles of the People? I could see Civil Rights Groups or American Political Parties adopt a sort of Civic Nationalist Ideology that is inspired by Sun Yat-Sen's Three Principles of the People, a sort of American Nationalism that is Progressive encouraging Egalitarianism and Georgist Economic Positions.
I could see Progressive American Nationalists/"New" American Nationalists try to create an inspiration of Sun's Three Principles while using the symbolism of Abraham Lincoln (Lincoln being the Liberator of Slaves, and the Great Unifier of America).
American Nationalists who support Civil Rights could adopt the view that they support it because they believe it would better unite the American People.
There will be lots of Americans who are fans of Chiang Kai-shek. And there will be some who want to apply his ideology to the United States. But Chiang's ideology is going to have limited appeal in Western countries. His main fans right now are conservative Republicans because he crushed Communism, but those same people would oppose any effort to enact his economic policies in the US. There is some potential for progressive Chiangism, but any Chiangist movement in the United States is going to be relatively small.
Plus with the distribution of Maoist Ideology in the Third World in OTL being popular with a number of Communist Groups, what about an equivalent with the Three Principles of the People inspiring Revolutionary Nationalist Movements in South America and Africa (Especially with Decolonization)?
The Three Principles could be the sort of Revolutionary Alternative to both Communism and Capitalism, so like folks who aren't fans of the Soviets and Americans settling for "Non-Aligned" Chinese support.
Certainly. While Africa is still mostly colonized at this point, there are a lot of Latin American political movements and even some leaders who love the ROC and have ideological similarities.
 
While Africa is still mostly colonized at this point, there are a lot of Latin American political movements and even some leaders who love the ROC and have ideological similarities.
Let me guess a certain Argentine Colonel (or at least many of his followers) will end up being influenced by the KMT.
 
Sheesh, I recall that the UNITA group in Angola received support from the PRC from 1966 to 1975 otl, would the ROC support a more Tridemist UNITA?
 
I can see groups in the Third World emerging that uphold Sun Yat-Sen, while denouncing Chiang Kai-Shek as a Right-Wing Pretender who is hijacking Sun's movement. Kinda like Western Europe during the Cold War with a split between the Pro-Soviet Communists and the Anti-Soviet Eurocommunists.
 
That said, would South Korea still fall under a Military Coup with someone like Park Chung-hee? That and Syngman Rhee was increasingly unpopular in his rule due to his authoritarianism and his corruption, which lead to Student Protests - that lead to Rhee being ousted from power and in turn, led to the weak successor Second Republic under Yun Posun, and as a result a military coup (Which then lead to the Third Republic with General Park Chung-hee in charge).

That and Park Chung-hee on top of being Dictator was responsible for South Korea's economic development and its modernization. (Park Chung-hee was originally a soldier serving in Manchukuo Army having been educated by the Japanese Army, and much of his economic policies were inspired by Japanese policies and the Meiji Restoration)
 
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That said, would South Korea still fall under a Military Coup with someone like Park Chung-hee? That and Syngman Rhee was increasingly unpopular in his rule due to his authoritarianism and his corruption, which lead to Student Protests - that lead to Rhee being ousted from power and in turn, led to the weak successor Second Republic under Yun Posun, and as a result a military coup (Which then lead to the Third Republic with General Park Chung-hee in charge).

That and Park Chung-hee on top of being Dictator was responsible for South Korea's economic development and its modernization. (Park Chung-hee was originally a soldier serving in Manchukuo Army having been educated by the Japanese Army, and much of his economic policies were inspired by Japanese policies and the Meiji Restoration)
A lot of those issues will still be present with TTL Syngman Rhee, there may or may not still be a coup.
 
十六, The Organization for East Asian Cooperation
The Organization for East Asian Cooperation was founded in 1951. It originally had five members; China, India, South Korea, Burma, and Thailand. Its headquarters were established in Canton. The first President of the organization was Hsu Mo, the former Chinese ambassador to Australia and Turkey. The organization sought to bring the nations of East Asia closer together. Each member agreed not to declare war on another member. The number of member states would double in the next few years. Indonesia, which had won its independence from the Netherlands in 1949, and the Philippines, which had gained independence from the United States in 1946, joined the OEAC in 1952. In 1955, Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam joined the organization, bringing the number of members to ten. Delegates from Hong Kong and Macau would be present in Canton as well.

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(Hsu Mo)

China had a huge amount of influence on the OEAC. China prevented Mongolia, East Turkestan, and Tibet while it was still independent from joining the organization. China and South Korea had a common interest in preventing North Korean membership. India lobbied against Pakistani membership. Nepal was in the process of applying for membership, but withdrew after the Chinese invasion and annexation of Tibet. Some in India called for leaving the OEAC, but India would remain. Jawaharlal Nehru and Chiang Kai-shek were no longer friends, however. Nehru would call out China for its failure to be a full democracy. He hoped that India could provide an alternative to both Soviet Communism and Chinese authoritarian nationalism. China would briefly fund the Indian National Party, a secular nationalist party that was pro-Chinese. The party failed to have any meaningful impact on Indian politics and China pulled funding in the early 1960s.

Starting in 1954, the OEAC was tasked with ensuring peace in the countries of former French Indochina. Laos and Cambodia were not a cause of much concern, but Vietnam was. During the transition of power from France colonial to native Vietnamese rule, most of the country was given to various rebel movements and political factions. In order to keep the country at peace, foreign troops from the US, USSR, and China were temporarily stationed in Hanoi and Saigon. They were there to prevent violence between the different factions. In addition, election observers from all ten member states of the OEAC would be placed in those cities. They would remain in Vietnam until 1956. In 1955, Hsu Mo retired as President of the OEAC. He returned to his hometown of Suzhou and died the next year. The organization’s next president would be former Philippine Prime Minister Jorge B. Vargas. This didn’t change the fact that the organization was still very much dominated by China.

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(Jorge Vargas)
 
Liking this look at how China is spreading its political muscle on the international stage.
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China is an aspiring western state so its economy will be subject to factors such as market fluctuations, inflation/deflation, etc. In turn those factors and others such as the progress of reforms can affect the standing of the national government with its people and on the international stage. With the POD now in effect, China can now be affected by notions that have not surfaced in OTL for good or ill. So political decisions by the national government may affect how China develops into the future in ways that did not happen in OTL along with other internal and external events.
 
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Basically put, the OTL People's Republic of China has a national economy heavily controlled by the PRC government. Now ITTL the Republic of China's economy is not going to follow that model. I don't know what is planned, but I have the impression it will not be a purely capitalist free economy.
 
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Basically put, the OTL People's Republic of China has a national economy heavily controlled by the PRC government. Now ITTL the Republic of China's economy is not going to follow that model. I don't know what is planned, but I have the impression it will not be a purely capitalist free economy.
There will be a lot of central planning involved, at least while Chiang Kai-shek is still alive. Obviously it won't be anything like in the PRC.
 
十七, Divisions Within the Kuomintang
Just as there is ideological diversity in the modern Kuomintang, the Kuomintang of the mid-20th century was far from a monolith. The KMT was an ideologically diverse party made up of people with very different visions for China’s future. Individuals affiliated with the party have run the gamut from far-left to far-right. Some collaborated with Japan and others undermined the government from within, hoping to establish Communism in China. By the 1950s, Sun Yat-sen and the other early party leaders were dead. Chiang Kai-shek had been the Director-General of the Kuomintang since 1938 when the position was created (he had served as the leader of the party at various points before that as well). The Vice Director-General was Chen Cheng, the commander of the Chinese Navy. Chen Cheng and Zhang Qun were both trusted advisors to Chiang Kai-shek, and were in favor of greater democratization of China.

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(Chen Cheng)

The Central Club, or the CC Clique as it was often called, was a very influential right-wing faction within the Kuomintang one of the most powerful factions overall. The organization was led by the Chen family, brothers Chen Guofu and Chen Lifu, who were friends with Chiang Kai-shek. After the death of Chen Guofu in 1951, his younger brother brother Chen Lifu became the leader of the CC Clique. H. H. Kung was closely associated with this faction, as was Chiang’s wife Soong Mei-ling. Several Uyghur generals and politicians were members of the CC Clique as well. Chen Lifu served as Vice President of the Legislative Yuan, and when Sun Fo replaced Li Zongren as Vice President of China, Chen Lifu became President of the Legislative Yuan. Chiang Kai-shek’s friendship with Chen Lifu was why he was willing to go along with the more left-wing items on Chiang’s agenda.

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(Chen Guofu, 1892-1951)

Another powerful faction was the Department of Political Science. This faction had traditionally been influenced by both Western and Japanese ideas. Chiang’s advisor Zhang Qun belonged to this faction, as did Chinese Premier Weng Wenhao. There was also the Whampoa Department, named after the Whampoa Military Academy in Canton where many of the ROC’s military leaders were trained. Chiang Kai-shek himself was part of this faction. There were also factions within Whampoa, such as the Civil Engineering Department, which was led by Chen Cheng [1]. Generals Hu Zongnan and Tang Enbo and Hu Zongnan had their own factions within Whampoa as well. All three of them were loyal to Chiang Kai-shek. Tang’s faction disbanded after his death in 1954, however. Defense Minister He Yingqin, an ally of Chiang, had been an instructor at the academy.

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(Zhang Qun)

Though the power and influence of warlords had greatly declined, they were still around during the 1950s. Yan Xishan, leader of the Jin Faction, was one of the most famous. He ruled over Shanxi Province and played a major role during the civil war. He was a neo-Confucian Chinese nationalist who supported Chiang. Much of Western China was ruled by warlords from the Ma Clique, a group of Hui Muslim generals. The most famous of them was Ma Bufang, who ruled Qinghai and led the invasion of Tibet. Ma Hongbin ruled over Gansu and his cousin Ma Hongkui ruled over Ningxia. Chiang Kai-shek trusted Ma Bufang, but was unsure about the other two. Another famous Muslim warlord was Bai Chongxi of the New Guangxi Clique. Bai had been China’s Minister of Defense, but was removed from his post because of his support for Li Zongren, who was also of the New Guangxi Clique.

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(Yan Xishan)

There were various left-wing factions as well. The Three People’s Principles Comrades Association was a leftist organization founded in opposition to Chiang’s policies. However, Chiang’s apparent pivot to the left and rapprochement with the Soviet Union led them to start working with him during the 1950s. The organization contained many who had secret ties to the Soviet Union such as Wang Kunlun. The Kuomintang Democracy Promotion Association was more moderate. It was founded by Li Jishen, a general who had taught at Whampoa Military Academy. Feng Yuxiang was a devout Christian former general who had been blood brothers with Chiang Kai-shek before breaking with him. He was affiliated with the left-wing of the Kuomintang and had even travelled to the United States to criticize his president. He was involved in a growing network of anti-Chiang generals.

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(Li Jishen)

1: Though he had the same surname, 陳, Chen Cheng was not related to Chen Guofu or Chen Lifu. He was not particularly fond of them or the CC Clique.
 
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