Η Δημοκρατία της Νέας Ελλάδας:New Greece in the new world

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Calbertbreastpeach, Dec 9, 2018.

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  1. Peppe Well-Known Member

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    Good maps, altough i would advise you to do less "liny" borders, as they can be a little strange (and a little too much irrealistic)
     
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  2. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    Yeah I know
    I’m trying to get better at it but at the same time if I don’t show subdivisions people complain about space filling empires so it feels like I can’t please no one

    Also thanks for the compliment
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  3. Peppe Well-Known Member

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    The subdivisions bit is comprehensible (my tip is to use OTL borders, much easier than creating a new one), my major comment was about the international ones, that tend to be not that much linear (its plausible if they are completely arbritary ones, like in Africa and the Middle East)
     
  4. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    I’m thinking of changing them eventually however for right now they will fit

    In this timeline most of the borders in Africa are made ten times worse due to collective grumbling between everyone and their mother over borders

    South America is much the same but it’s mostly due to various strong men attempting their own regimes on the continent
     
  5. Threadmarks: South American Heads of State

    Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    Cathaoirleach-Comhairleoir Séamus Healy of The Free Peoples Syndicalist Federation of New Hibernia
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    Constable Joaquin Santiago Augustin of the Federation of La Plata
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    President Calufray Nahuel of the Republican Federation of Mapuche Peoples
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    Praetor-Chairman Matheus-Silva of the Peoples Federation of the Rio-Grande
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    Reine Amy Caroline Bonaparte of the Kingdom of Brasile

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    Minister-General Jorge Quiroga of the Incan Confederacy of Peru-Boliva
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    Augustus-Consul Lucio Gutiérrez of The Republic of New Granada
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  6. ETGalaxy Long live the King of America!

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    I could get you a topography and river map of that would help at all.
     
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  7. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    That would be awesome!

    Honestly the thing that I’m going to try and work on next for this is the map of Oceania and then the map of Africa

    however the thing that is next up is the tale of “The promise of Kolokotronis”
     
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  8. ETGalaxy Long live the King of America!

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    Alright then, I'll get those as soon as I return from school today.
     
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  9. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    I have a good amount of flags for New Hellas so im going to send all of them and whichever one you guys enjoy the most and that will be the cannon one because im just so dammned indecisive


    Here they are in all their glory
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    For the first one the colors represent in order
    Yellow:The future of the greek people and the journey ahead
    Indigo:The repsonbility of the greek people to spread the ideas of democracy
    White:Symbolizing the timeless purity of the Greek people
    Teal:The freedom of the Hellenic peoples
    Green:The harmony of New Hellas


    And for the second flag
    Red:The courage of the greek people that has been spilled by invaders trying to oppress them.
    Black:The elegance of the landscape of New Hellas
    Indigo:The Hellenic peoples loyalty to their allies.
    Yellow:The opportunity of greater freedom in New Hellas
    Swords:The fighting spirit of the Hellenic People
     

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  10. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    Would you guys wanna see this worlds supeheroes and more of this timelines pop culture?
     
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  11. ETGalaxy Long live the King of America!

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    That could be an interesting worldbuilding exercise.
     
  12. Threadmarks: The Promise

    Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    The Promise is an old Helot tale dating back to the year 1838 when the first Helots would move to the new world
    Settlement was fast and people arrived in droves to the Republic of New Hellas but with this came a threat to the native peoples of the Nestus River(Louisiana basin) When settlers first arrived in the province of Capodica the Choctaw natives seemed unbothered and cordial with the settlers.After all perhaps the Greeks would be kinder to the natives then the Ottomans were.Trade deals were established and relations were friendly between the two peoples.This all changed when a translation issue between Aindrea Dimitri Stavoplos and Atepa of the Choctaw over the exchange of a pelt Stavoplos intially offered the deal at a uneven trade.Atepa accepted barely but when Dimiriti left afterwards he was offended and took it as an insult.When Dimitri returned and attempted to negotiate again Atepa was offended by what he assumed was a out right denial of any further trade and an insult.In reality had been a minor word slip his English was less then polished and he had said something relating to this mans mother.Atepa was angered by this and followed him home eventually and a fight erupted between the two and the settlers were all awoken.Mobs grew angered and captured the Atape A court was established trying to give him a trial which summarily called for him to be executed
     
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  13. Threadmarks: The Promise part two

    Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    After the Execution of Atape the Choctaw were quick to find out attempts to make peace were squandered by a young man by the name of Talako. Immediately after the death of Atape he gathered a few young men of the tribe and sent them towards the settlement of Apollo.They burst through the village on horseback burning all of the crops and destroying a local small settler church.The people eventually calmed the fires and buried the 9 people who were killed by the fire.Eventually Theodoros Kolokotronis even though he was no longer President was called in to negotiate with the help of American diplomat Philip Hamilton.The elderly man rode his horse "Apollo" into the villiage after calming and assuring the people that he would resolve this.Weapons were raised as he entered the Choctaw village. He walked forwards into the village striding as per usual Red helmet trailing behind.According to some when he crossed a line that the village marked a young man was startled and fired an arrow at the Consul it is a helot tale that he caught the arrow and when he caught it the young man told him to kneel. Theodoros looked at the young man and said "I kneel only to god"Before walking towards the chief's hut as the young man stood there dumbfounded. Koliktronis continued into the village until he found none other then Talako himself.The elderly consul sat with the young man and they discussed their lives,The discussion came to a halt between the two when Philip Hamilton entered the village and the discussion between the two began. Talako was aggressive with the men at first talking about how they were destroying their land and the white man did nothing to prevent this and asked for something back in return. Koliktronis was surprisingly amicable with the young man but Talako was having none of it saying that the only thing that could return the unjustice to his people was through blood and would not negotiate and that his people would fight for their land. Koliktronis sighed and did everything he could to try and calm the fire in this young mans heart before a solution dawned upon him.He would give the young man the fight he wished for but not in the way he desired.


    As he stared down this young man Koliktronis made a promise to Talako

    "We shall battle like none other has before under two conditions if i am victorious your people will leave and i ensure you that they shall be escorted by only the finest of Helot soldiers to whatever new home they find"The old man sighed before speaking again"And if i am to lose you claim this land for your people eternally" Talako initially nearly attacked Koliktronis before the chieftain told him to fight for his people and not for himself. Talako reluctantly agreed to this proposal and the duel and stage was set for the promise that would shape a century


    And a free map of oceania :) austrasia m8.JPG
     
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  14. ETGalaxy Long live the King of America!

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    I personally prefer the flag with the cross at the bottom, however, the first option would be my second choice.
     
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  15. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    That’s the flag I was most nervous about if im being honest
    But I think it could work especially because heleno-american relations are so tight in this timeline
     
  16. ST15RM Ich bin ein AH.commer!

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    @Calbertbreastpeach I like these flags, but they seem a little, well, nationalistic. Especially the colors descriptions, which seem to be about Greek/Hellenic people...
    I mean, I’m not calling you out for suprematism. But i need some context.
     
  17. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    I’m sorry I was trying to continue the sort of history of flags dealing with a people’s history

    I didn’t mean for it to come off as that at all

    I didn’t want to use the base greek flag either
     
  18. Threadmarks: 12/17/2018

    Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    BREAKING NEWS: Tensions in Turkish Cyprus have resurfaced after an attempt was made on President Varofaukis life by Εθνικό Λαϊκό Μέτωπο The president was shot 3 times in the chest during his visit to troops stationed there by Cyprus ultra nationalist movement Εθνικό Λαϊκό Μέτωπο.He is expected to make a full recovery but the attempt on his life has caused tensions on the island to rise again.To make things worse this comes during an attempt to try and negotiate a better situation for Greek citizens in Cyprus. Military forces on the island in the 35 year long occupation force has been put on high alert angering the Turkish government.

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    {Photos of a Helot Patrol in cyprus circa 1982}
     
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  19. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    Just wanted to let you guys know that I’m gonna make some minor retcons when it comes to maps to make things more accurate
    Particularly in Africa and Europe
     
  20. Murica1776 Building an American Tomorrow

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    I really like the direction this headed! I'll be watching with interest
     
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