Η Δημοκρατία της Νέας Ελλάδας:New Greece in the new world

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  1. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    Ive been on this board for a while now and have been thinking of an idea i got from a map on deviant art and the idea of the ottomans purchasing the Louisianan territory due to a few pods


    Such as a less powerful janissary corps a earlier military modernization
    a stronger hold on ottoman north africa a few victorys here in there which allow for the ottomans to keep a slightly more offensive hold along with a more neutral ottoman victory and allows for them to maintain some form of semblance of stability.
    Butterfly's hit here and there like the polish Lithuanian commonwealth managing to stay stable. but things maintain a large form of similarity the US gains Independence a seven years war still happens and they manage to gain Independence.And the Quasi war still happens but american french relations are poor enough that Napoleon sells the territory to the ottoman empire.


    They are able to roughly maintain it through negotiations of asking for Spanish protection with the help of France backing them


    The napelonic wars end in a French victory when he decides to take St. Peter's burg and manages to win mostly out of sheer luck keeping himself in order


    America manages to defeat Brittany in the war of 1812 through more competence on their part and a tighter war in Europe distracting the British from Canada.

    The Spanish New world is a bit of a clusterfuck of the highest order with strong men attempting to take over anywhere and everywhere


    As this is happening in Europe the Greek war of independence goes sour and they are mostly defeated
    Eventually only a few leaders of the movement survive
    With none other then
    Theodoros Kolokotronis
    saying that Greece must be born again in the new world
    where he takes as many greeks as he can with american help and as many leaders as he can to establish the republic of new hellas in the ottoman territory in the new world


    This project will be based in 2018 and in regards to plausbility keep in mind this is my first work with the first map coming tommorrow!



    This is the map this is based on https://www.deviantart.com/alt-reality/art/Turks-and-Me-97843206
     
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  2. Threadmarks: North American States

    Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    North America as of 2018

    The countries shown below are

    Oi spartakistikés dimokratíes tis néas hellas(The spartacist republic of new Hellas)
    Population as of 2018:
    85,354,984

    The United States of New Columbia
    Population as of 2018
    273,675,803


    Union républicaine de t'ajʃa(The Republican Union of Texas)
    Population as of 2018:45,946,567


    Troisième Empire du Mexique(Third Empire of Mexico)
    Population as of 2018:181,529,734


    Repubblica della terra dei fiori(Republic of Florida)
    Population as of 2018:31,146,364






    Королевство анастасиаланд
    (The Kingdom of Anastasia Land OTL California)
    Population as of 2018
    66,517,483
     
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  3. Threadmarks: North American heads of states

    Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    Korol' Konstantin Avgust Bransuik-Bevern iz Zemli Anastasii
    (King Constantine Augustus Brunswick-Bevern of Anastasia Land)





    Próxenos tou Proédrou Politikís Protovoulías Giánnis Varoufákis
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    Consul President Citizen Initiator Yanis Varoufakis


    President Christine Labrie Of the United States of New Columbia
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    Premier ministre Martin Mack Bernard

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    R comite praefectus Marcus Tullius. einaudi

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    Earl Marshall Luigi r. einaudi

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    Empereur Consul Jean Christophe Napoléon du Troisième Empire Mexicain

    Emperor-Consul Jean Christophe-Napoleon of the Third Mexican Empire
     
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  4. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    Any thoughts so far?

    I’d like to know what you guys think!
     
  5. ETGalaxy Long live the King of America!

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    I think that this is a fun idea thus far. It's not the most realistic, but it's still pretty interesting and it beats a lot of the other graphic timelines in the Maps and Graphics forum where everything is just a hodgepodge of unrelated PODs.
     
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  6. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    Thank you!
    I know it’s not the most realistic but it is the first of any of my mapping projects

    Also as a general message anyone is free to help me in any way they want! With graphics and with infoboxes because I am terrible at info boxes
     
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  7. Red Arturoist Napoleon II. - Marxist-Arturoist-Trałkaist Donor

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    Is "Spartacist" something like communist here? Yannis Varoufakis as head of state would certainly imply something quite far to the left...
     
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  8. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    Spartacist is a term for a far left politician here but not communist

    The term in TTL for something of that sort would be a federationalist (The workers have to form federations to overthrow the patricians and establish a true free working society)

    The best comparison in terms of socialism would be along the lines of Denmark although Yannis is a bit further to the left then the average Helot but greater geopolitics make it necessary in a weird sort of way
     
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  9. Faeelin Lord of Ten Thousand Years

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    ... Aren't those helots? The guys who joined together to overthrow the Spartans?
     
  10. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    The irony is not lost upon them

    But helot is a denomynm here for people of Greek descent in new hellas

    And the spartacist republic is the second republic of new Hellas the first being changed after the advent of a new semi parliamentary system
     
  11. Threadmarks: South America

    Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    South American Nations

    The Republic of New Granada
    Population as of 2018:
    145,093,261

    The Republican federation of Mapuche Peoples
    Population as of 2018
    5,049,932.

    The Free Peoples Syndicalist Federation of New Hibernia(OTL Patagonia)
    Population as of 2018:10,049.432

    The Incan Confederacy of Peru-Boliva
    Population as of 2018:
    60,832,483

    Federation of La Plata
    Population as of 2018:14,583.234

    Peoples Federation of the Rio Grande
    Population as of 2018: 19,434,521

    The Kingdom of Brazil
    Population as of 2018:190,493,532
     
  12. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    Do you guys wanna see Africa Europe or Asia next?
     
  13. Murica1776 Building an American Tomorrow

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    Europe!
     
  14. ETGalaxy Long live the King of America!

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    Europe would be interesting.
     
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    Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    Europe as of 2018

    Die christliche Technik der heiligen teutonischen Völker von Preußen
    (The Holy Teutonic peoples christian technate of Prussia) Population as of 2018: 52,934,875

    Kingdom of Bavaria
    Population as of 2018:28,563,452

    Union of English States
    Population as of 2018:120,457,324

    Republic of Scotland
    Population as of 2018:8,950,321

    Federation of Eire
    Population as of 2018:8,946,293

    The Confederacy of Greek states:
    56,942,521

    The Union of Danubian States
    Population as of 2018
    48,943,245

    Confederacy of Bohemia
    Population as of 2018:13,748,321

    The Baltic Workers Federation
    Population as of 2018:9,423,451

    The Kingdom of Turkey
    Population as of 2018:58,431,342

    The Plurnational State of Transcaucasia
    Population as of 2018:17,535,631

    The Union of the Netherlands
    Population as of 2018:24,653,512

    Republic of Kievan Rus
    Population as of 2018: 56,234.393

    Holy Empire of Russia
    Population as of 2018: 120,432,342

    The Holy Imperial State of Europa

    Population as of 2018:470,689,423



    I hope you guys like this

    Im going to try and fix the russian border eventually however muscle spasms have been happening to me all day today so it was rough trying to finish this up
     
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  16. Threadmarks: Greek War for Indepdence

    Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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  17. Murica1776 Building an American Tomorrow

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    Looking good! Quick spelling note, you might want to make the US the United States of Columbia rather than Colombia
     
  18. Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    Yeah ill change that

    Durn you autocorrect!
     
  19. Threadmarks: The flag of The Holy Teutonic Peoples Christian Technate of Prussia

    Calbertbreastpeach "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is."

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    The colors on the flag represent respectively

    Black representing the dark times that may come upon the Prussian peoples

    Green representing the greener pastures ahead and the fertilty of Prussias lands

    And yellow representing the eternal hopefulness of the Prussian peoples symbolizing that they can and never will be defeated
    The Red gear symbolizing the Prussian peoples duty to advance the cause of science because god wills it!
     
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  20. ETGalaxy Long live the King of America!

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    Good choice with the gear! The center looks like a cross, which is fitting!
     
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