war of the roses

Lets say in 1454, Henry and Margaret have a daughter named Catherine of England, a year after the birth of their first child, Edward of Lancaster. Can Catherine be married off for an alliance to ensure that the Lancaster's remain on the throne of England? (Wild-card for Edward IV who will not...

King Edward V of England (1470-1542) and Queen Mary of Lancaster (1470-1545) "On December 8, 1470, on the day of the Immaculate Conception, Anne Neville, wife of the late Prince of Wales, Edward of Westminster, gave birth to a girl who was named Mary, heiress of the house of Lancaster. The young...

After judicial killing of Thomas FitzGerald, 7th earl of Desmond by John Tiptoft, FitzGerald family led a short uprising. It was only quelled after an ultimatum by Edward IV where he gave them two choices, lay down arms and be forgiven or fight. It always struk me as odd why the FitzGerald...

Let's say that in 1457, Margaret Beaufort gives birth to a daughter that she names after herself and the queen. Little Margaret Tudor's royal connections are tenous but she's countess of Richmond in her own right as well as a potential heiress of the Beaufort estate. What are her marriage...

This is a challenge which popped up in my head following a similar situation in my TL. Your job is to make the disparate Irish chiefdoms survive and coalesce into native Irish kingdom(s) and put off the English for as long as 1700s. Pod is war of the roses. You can divide England into two parts...

Richard III is probably one of England's most infamous kings. Having come to power by usurping his own nephew, he was the last Yorkist King to reign. During the decisive Battle of Bosworth Field, in a great gamble, Richard III personally charged, along with 1,000 horsemen, across the battlefield...

Thomas of Woodstock was the youngest son of Edward III that survived until the adulthood. He married and had issue, including son Humprey, 2nd Earl of Buckingham. After the dispute with Richard II, Thomas was arrested and murdered in 1397, and his son didn't outlived it by much. He first was...

“Let us walk in a new vineyard and let us make a gay garden in the month of March with this fair white rose and herb the Earl of March” Written by a chronicler in 1461 Chapter 1 - 28th of June 1461 To Elizabeth Lambert new Queen of England was a true beauty. Her face was gravely lovely and...

Let's say that while Battle of Tewkesbury is still a total victory for Edward York and his supporters, Few Knights fighting for Henry Lancaster realized that the battle is lost before it's too late, and Lancasterian heir, Edward of Westminster, Prince of Wales is dragged off the...

By dint of reading about the Wars of the Roses, I wondered whether such a conflict could appear in France? And I think I can answer yes. Of course, it would not be a tracing but a real civil conflict around a dynastic crisis with an incapable king and ambitious nobles who kill each other...

The Bull and the Roses Timeline of a Lancastrian victory at Barnet On 14 April 1471, the Battle of Barnet took place between the Lancastrians, led by the Earl of Warwick against the Yorkists, led by King Edward IV. Resulting in the defeat of the supporters of Henry VI, and the death of...

Now, though Shakespeare liked the idea and wrote it in, we know that no meeting of any kind occurred at all, and that the royal heir probably died in battle, but what if he had personally killed York? The immediate consequence, I should suppose, is that he is killed as in the play. Is one year...

Not gonna lie, this thread is inspired mostly by Margaret Beaufort having more children idea. The POD is a little tricky, since Edmund was captured after siege of the Carmarthen Castle... How about Edmund is captured like OTL, but somehow was able to escape soon after? I quess it requires guards...

According to The First of the Tudors Henry VII during his youth while still in England, was extremely taken with his native roots in Wales, could speak rudimentary welsh and throughout his entire life, he was extremely pro-welsh. Indeed, Wales as a whole developed on a whole different level...

Assuming everything goes badly for each successive government, how many times could Henry VI's allies and Edward IV flip-flop between France and the home country? How would this change the following era? Could Tudor still come on the throne? Moreover, assuming Warwick and Clarence avoid paying...

As the title says, what if Henry Beauchamp, son of Richard Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick and friend of Henry VI lives? How would he affect Henry’s reign? Could he replace Suffolk as Henry’s chief advisor if he still dies as per OTL?

2022 Turtledove Winner! November 1463. Château d'Amboise, France. “Prince Gaston of Viana is dead, Sire,” said the messenger when Louis bid him to come in. The man stepped forward and bowed, extending his arm forward to hand him a sealed letter, “Fever took him.” “Poor Madeleine,” murmured...

Say, that Yolande, sister of Margaret of Anjou, happens to be barren, and that their nephew Nicholas dies a bit earlier than IOTL (before 1471). That would make Edward of Westminster heir to Duchy of Lorraine (his aunt Yolande still lived, but as I've mentioned she's childless widow here)...

The objective of the TL is to get the house of Gloucester founded by Thomas of Woodstock survive and get the throne after the war of the roses, Thomas had a son Humphrey, made him survive and then is line continues to the war of the roses.

Let's say that while Henry V of England died like OTL in 1422, he was able to father with Catherine of Valois another son. This child is born after his death, but unlike his older brother, he is both mentally and physically healthy. This way, during his entire reign Henry VI have an obvious...