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  1. Italo-Turkish War: What If the Ottomans retained the Dodecanese Islands

    I'm wondering about the ramifications for World War I and beyond where the Ottoman Empire still lost The Italo-Turkish War between 1911-1912 and lost their territory in Libya but still managed to retain their holdings in the Dodecanese Islands. What are the effects of this on the Balkan War...
  2. PC/WI: Central Powers Win WWI but the Ottomans go Italy

    Let's say that the Central Powers manage to win WWI, but the Ottoman's war with Britain weakens them where they can't hold Arabia after a few years. Blaming the Germans and Austrians for not doing enough to help their empire, the Ottomans eventually adopt a fascist-style government and join the...
  3. RonaldReagram

    Did the Ottoman Turkish language have a chance?

    Ottoman Turkish - the empire's Persianized language, used for poetry and administration. Ataturk's language reform put it to rest as a relic of its namesake, no longer needed by a republic. Barring the decisive Turkish republican victory in the 1920's, was the court language's displacement in...
  4. Ilúphatar

    Viability of Greek control in the Smyrna Zone (Milne Line)

    No, this is not yet another, 'What if Greece won the Greco-Turkish War of 1919-22 and restored Byzantium?' thread. I think the consensus that extensive Greek territorial gains in Anatolia were implausible - not least on ethnological grounds - has been thoroughly established numerous times...
  5. No Soviet Turkish war of independence White Russia

    Without Soviets how would Turkish war of independence go white Russia Grabs Constantinople, Turkish straits of Gallipoli, dardanelles and Pontus while Turks and entante busy in the war ?
  6. Greek nationalism in late Byzantium

    Can Greek nationalism rise in late Byzantium under palaiologos during 12th and 13 the centuries as it did in 19th century under ottomans due to events like sack of Constantinople and latin rule can it stop ottomans?
  7. Hypersauce

    Red Stained Red Flag: A Turkish Timeline

    Red Stained Red Flag: The Fall of Turkey Post-Independence Rings of Good In the early 1920’s, Turkey gained its independence. Ataturk’s attempts at restoring the country were going well. Economic policies were improving the economy and leading to a more nationalised economy, cultural policies...
  8. WI Turkish NATO divisions stationed in West Germany?

    This is from anannotation I read in a bbook about the Cold War. In 1964 the West German foreign office informed the leadership of the Bundeswehr,that there was the possibility to get 2 turkish division stationed in Germany, to strengthen the Forward Defense as part of the german...
  9. PakistaniGuyUK

    WI Christian nations recognize Genocides committed by them during Ottoman era

    Edit, to avoid confusion... POD for these yearly memorial days (whether observed or not)... Greece – some time after joining NATO in 1952 Armenia – soon after independence So for this ASB-ish WI lets say some Christian nations memorialize THE ENTIRITY of their history regardless of what Turkey...
  10. PakistaniGuyUK

    DBWI No pro-Turkish Armenian insurrection in Tsarist Russia in 1914?

    OTL : So for those who might not be familiar with the OTL Near East, the Armenian Dashnaks in 1914 decided to instigate a shock rebellion in Russian Armenia against Tsarist Russia, throwing their full weight behind a seemingly - at the time - absurd Ottoman proposal of 1914 that envisioned...
  11. Enosis (Union of Greece and Cyprus) after 1950?

    This thread is inspired by a rather obscure WI I raised in another thread that proved to be surprisingly productive, and I'd like to focus more on the subject in the title, that of Enosis with a POD after 1950. Calling in @Tanaka did nothing wrong and @Lascaris, who did the bulk of the...
  12. No 1960 coup in Turkey?

    Let's say the government of Adnan Menderes isn't so obviously authoritarian (maybe he doesn't incite the Istanbul Pogrom, for example) and the military allows him and the Democrat Party to stay in power. What would be the effects of that? I assume the 1971 and 1980 coups are butterflied, for...
  13. AHC: Turkey as a Great Power

    Your challenge is fairly straightforward: with any POD after the Turkish republic was declared in 1923, make the Republic of Turkey one of the great powers.
  14. GameBawesome

    WI: The Ottoman Government sides with Mustafa Kemal

    In OTL, the Ottoman Government sides with the European powers, during the War of Turkish Independence, against the Grand National Assembly. The Turks won, and the Ottoman Sultanate and Caliphate were abolished by Mustafa Kemal. But what if, instead of siding with the Europeans, the Ottoman...
  15. Turk Buffs

    How to make the Ottoman Empire/Turkey do better? I haven't seen all that many buffed (increased in power) Turkey or Ottoman Empire timelines. How could the sick man of Europe recover faster?
  16. GauchoBadger

    DBWI: Cilicia remains Turkish

    Up to this day, the Cilician province of Armenia, and principally the important port city of Adana, is noteworthy for its Turkish minority, which has survived many assimilation attempts by the Armenian government and became a significant force in the country’s labour movement, with occasional...
  17. ahmed1ghoneim

    DBWI: The war against Turkey did not erupt

    As we all know, the intensity of competition for gas in the eastern Mediterranean has escalated since discoveries began between 2016 and 2017 until military skirmishes erupted between Egypt and Turkey in late 2017 on the one hand and Greece and Cyprus against Turkey on the other hand and...
  18. ThecrownPrince

    1974 Greco-Turkish war

    I know threads like this have been up but I’d like to get some more point of veiws on what would happen if Greece and turkey escalated the Cyprus conflict into war. The best pod I could find is that Greece doesn’t recall submarines sent attack the Turkish landing forces and subsequently the...
  19. WI: Russia and Austria Support Muhammad Ali’s Egypt

    During the Oriental Crisis, Russia and Austria took sides against Muhammad Ali’s Egypt as it expanded into territories held by the Ottoman Empire. Even though Russia and Austria weren’t on good terms with the Ottomans, they weren’t fans of a rising Egypt. However, what if Muhammad Ali decided...
  20. AHC: Create the largest possible Ottoman Empire

    Here's a relatively simple challenge. How much can you wank the Ottomans, and how large can you make them in the process?
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