tang dynasty

  1. WI Japan conquer China instead of Song

    POD is that Taika Reform succeeds in centralizing Japan. It takes power away from clan. Their land nationalized and redistributed. Imperial government becomes the sole authority in Japan. The Emperor creates a professional national standing army Tang dynasty in China and Silla dynasty in Korea...
  2. Avrorrange

    Effects of Zoroastrianism on China if the Anshi Rebellion succeeded in overthrowing the Tang Dynasty?

    IOTL, An Lushan had a shot in overthrowing the Tang Dynasty. Had his forces captured the Tang Emperor and his family as they tried to evacuate Chang'an, the Tang Court's resistance towards the Yan Rebels likelyh would have fragmented. Little known on this forum was the fact that An Lushan and...
  3. Oba Cahokia

    WI: The House of Li and the House Yamato merged? (Tang-Yamato Japanese Conquest/Reconquest of China?)

    What if the House of Li escaped to Japan and intermarried/merged with with the House of Yamato? How would this affect the history of East Asia and is it possible that this could lead to a Japanese conquest of Korea and China?
  4. Blue Heaven Encompassing Earth: A Late Antiquity Timeline

    With thanks to @Practical Lobster and Chris Stewart of the History of China podcast and Chehrazad and Zam from Sufficientvelocity.com. Inelid Qaghanate § Background In the year 628, Khusro II was overthrown and killed by various factions of the Eranian nobility, including his son Sheroe...
  5. Another “cosmopolitan” Chinese dynasty?

    The Tang dynasty is often called “cosmopolitan” due to its openness to trade, new ideas, expansionism, embrace of Buddhism, etc. The Song dynasty was also another period where trade was a major focus in Chinese civilization. During the Yongle Emperor’s reign, this too was obviously an applicable...
  6. PC: No Islam, a Christian Arab Empire, and a Neo-Göktürk Persia?

    Here is a scenario I have been thinking about for a while. How plausible is it? (If you are also on sufficientvelocity.com, you may have seen an earlier version of this scenario.) Arab Empire - No Islam. Maybe Muhammad didn’t exist, or maybe he stayed in Ethiopia, or maybe he was just less...
  7. Was the Tang Dynasty a Turkic one, and if so what if they were thought of it that way?

    Is this actually real The earlier post: If it is an actual descriptor, what if the Tang were thought of as a foreign barbarian dynasty in the same way the later Yuan and Qing were? Funny how the Tang was one of imperial China's cosmopolitan and territorial heights of glory.
  8. What if the An Lushan Rebellion never happened?

    The early days of the Tang dynasty were a true high point in Chinese history. It extended its control further west than any previous Chinese dynasty, its law code would form the model all future Chinese governments followed, and Chinese science and culture reached new heights. To this day, most...
  9. Tang sinicize Central Asia, Mongolia, North Korea

    what if Tang retain these borders until 10th century and Sinicize all their territory like caliphate islamize it's territory ? POD is Gaozong remains healthly and kill Wu for instrigues and retains the empire's borders
  10. Perfectus Romae (What if Rome didn't fall?)

    So in this timeline, Aurelian survives the assassination attempt by some of his officers. Executing those responsible, he launches campaigns in Germania but is killed a year in by a plague. Aurelian is succeeded by Tacitus, who finished the wars of his predecessor but was killed in a battle...
  11. Sarthak

    What would a Sassanid China look like?

    OTL, there was talk among the exiled House of Sassan to permanently settle down in China during the rule of the Tang Dynasty, but they didn't and eventually their direct descendants either assimilated into Central Asian Culture directly loosing their name in the process or were killed off by the...
  12. sui dynasty conquer korea

    what if sui dynasty conquer korea will this help them survive and stop rise of tang ? How will this affect korean and chinese history ?
  13. GameBawesome

    WI: Narsieh forms an Sasanian-Rumpstate in Tokharistan against the Arabs, under Tang protection.

    In the 7th Century, Narsieh, son of Peroz III, and the grandson of Yazdegerd III, the last Sasanian Shah. He was escorted back to Persia with a Chinese army led by Pei Xingjian in 679, in order to restore him to the Sasanian throne, but the army stopped in Tokharistan. Pei Xingjian fought...
  14. WI: Xuanzong of Tang dies in 736

    The year 736 is generally agreed to mark a turning point in the reign of Emperor Xuanzong of Tang. Before that point, he was generally considered a diligent and astute ruler. However, during that year, he began to tire of affairs of state. This disinterest, along with Yang Guifei's nepotism and...
  15. Sarthak

    Emperor Gaozong and Pei restore Narsieh to a rump Sassanian State.

    So the son of Peroz III, Narseih was going to Persia, or more specifically the Persian steppes to be restored to the sassanian throne with the aid of a noble named Pei with the backing of the Tang Dynasty. Apparently the plan was to liberate transoxiana, and then restore Peroz III's rump state...
  16. PC: No An Lushan Rebellion, Arab-Chinese War?

    When the Muslims exploded out of Arabia, they did not stop at fighting their immediate foes, the Byzantine and Sassanian Empires. Rather, they continued beyond them, conquering lands from Iberia to India. But when the Umayyads and later the Abbasids attack the region of Central Asia known as...
  17. Sarthak

    Boluōmitya Dēshe: A Medieval Timeline Set in Asia.
    Threadmarks: Chapter 1

    Boluōmitya Dēshe: A Medieval Timeline. *** Chapter 1: The Marriage of a lifetime. 621 AD, Chang’an, Tang Dynasty China. Emperor Gaozu of the Tang Dynasty, born Li Yuan, and called by many as Shude wasn’t a man for patience. He had been opportunistic when he had toppled the Sui Dynasty, and...
  18. WI: Li Linfu never rises to power

    Li Linfu was a historian and bureaucrat of the Tang Dynasty during the reign of Emperor Xuanzong - whose actions are widely considered to have had one of the most resoundingly negative unintended impacts in Chinese history. It was his chancellorship - and more specifically, his appointments of...
  19. Teriyaki

    Wu Zetian Never Leaves Ganye Convent - 650 AD

    After the death of Emperor Taizong in 649 AD, the concubines and maids of his harem were sentenced to two different fates. Those who had given birth to children were allowed to retire into luxury in a palace. Although secluded, they would want for nothing the rest of their days. Those who had...
  20. WI: Xuanzong's rule doesnt turn sour

    Emperor Xuanzong of Tang started out as a diligent and shrewd ruler, but he eventually lost interest in governance and became too trustful of figures like Li Linfu, Yang Guozhong and An Lushan, with disastrous results. What if he stayed actively involved in affairs of state and didn't put so...
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