southern victory

The Challenge: with a POD no later than 1867, have the CSA win the American Civil War (through any means you want) and no later than 1939, have the CSA and USA be allies. I'm not talking about a superficial alliance; the challenge is to create a legitimate, strong alliance between the two...

Nope, not having a stroke. Sketching out a hypothetical TL, not sure about the exact PoD but the idea is that the the British are more successful in the northern states during the ARW but less successful in the south (or, I guess, as successless) with the end result being an alt-treaty of Paris...

A major criticism of TL191 is that the population reductions, the Confederate genocide of the Black Southern population, is implausible. Because conducting the genocide of 30% of your population, a population disproportionately represented among your menial workforce, is implausible. It’s a...

Howdy! As you may notice, this is my first ever attempted story and it maybe amateurish, but I'm trying my best, please note that you can critique and correct me on some posts! Am I going to follow the canon of the story? Mostly, not really, I'm sprinkling in some of my headcanons for this, and...

With other projects on hiatus, I was inspired to write my own Southern victory TL detailing a Confederate victory in the American Civil War. I chose the same PoD as Turtledove, the infamous Order 191, but things diverge from there. To make certain I wouldn't inadvertently rip off Turtledove's...

The land that presently constitutes Lancaster County was widely disregarded as arid and unusable by civilization until shockingly recently. Apart from infrequent expeditions, the white man did not deem the floodplains of the Salt Creek to be meriting further development; the “Great American...

I don't know if it was talked about, but what would the fate of the British West Indies? Like British Windward Islands, Trinidad and Tobago, British Leeward Islands, and Jamaica? Would they be under American Occupation and become states? Or becoming independent nations? It's been in my head for...

On January 1, 1950, a bright white light flashed throughout the entire North American Continent, replaced by the Southern Victory North America, how does the world turn out with the TL-191 America would be? How would the Dewey Administration would do in this situation? How does Britain react to...

If the Southern Victory Series were real, let's say all the Presidents from Lincoln to Dewey were Presidents, what's after 1945? I highly doubt Russian Alaska would remain Russian during the Second Great War, so let's go ahead and have them conquered by the Union, I also think that Texas would...

This is an Sequel of 2007 Thread about the Demographic of Southern victory so I made this Thread to Continue this discussion of what’s the population and demographic in TL191 series’s What Population between the USA, CSA, Germany and Ottoman etc in This World? What’s your best guesses guys and...

Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series sees the creation of an independent Irish Republic after the conclusion of the First Great War, encompassing the entire Emerald Isle. How does/would Ireland handle Ulster, which'd likely continue rebelling over and over again?

This idea seems like a neat idea, that came from the Alternate History Writer, Harry Turtledove: The rise of Communism in the CSA, where in Southern Victory, black communists rosed against the Confederates during the Great War. So, this got me thinking, how plausible for...

As we who have read Harry T's Southern Victory series know, following the Central Powers' victory in the First Great War, Canada, after 54 years of independence, ceases to exist, coming under an indefinitely-long U.S. military occupation (save for Quebec, which became an independent state...

There have been several TL-191 fanfictions made in regards to an Entente victory in GW1, though, realistically, could the Entente have feasibly won GW1?

What if, in TL-191, the Second Mexican War escalated, resulting in a world war some 33 years earlier. What would the alliances look like, etc?

What do y'all recon would be the fate of Britain post-SGW, having lost another war to the CP's, and got 3 cities nuked?

What would have happened during and after WW1 if Teddy Roosevelt refused the CSA's peace proposals, and didn't stop the war until all of the CSA and Canada were occupied and annexed?

What would have happened if, in TL-191, the USA won the War of Secession, but under different circumstances (with those circumstances being that Britain and France help the CSA, and Robert E. Lee doesn't defect to the CSA for some reason)? Would they still be extremely hostile to Britain and...

I originally posted this as a DBWI, but I figured this would be better done in a regular WI format. Basically, a common idea is "What if the Christmas Truce evolved into a full truce." Recently, Alternate History Hub made a video analyzing this, concluding that even if the Western Front ended...

Many of us know Harry Turtledove very well including his 11 novel series Southern Victory or Timeline-191, it's been the subject of various discussions and fanmade creations such as TL-191: Filling the Gaps, TL-191: After the End and Photos from Featherston's Confederacy as well as Cody Franklin...