secession

  1. Q: Were there attempts at secession before and after the Civil War?
    Threadmarks: Were there other attempts at secession in the United States (Specifically) after the Civil War?

    Which one could be classified as the most successful? I am interested to hear at least some attempt.
  2. British Biscuit

    DBWI: Baltic states gain independence, Tannu Tuva becomes part of the Russian Federation?

    There are some clear parallels between Tuva and the Baltic states: they are roughly the same size (land area of 175,015 km² for the 3 Baltic states combined, 170,500 km² in case of Tuva), they all gained independence in the aftermath of WW1 but were all annexed into the USSR in 1940s. Yet upon...
  3. GameBawesome

    WI/AHC: Multiple uprisings during the Civil War

    What if, through 1861 to 1865, there were multiply uprisings in both the Union and the Confederacy? The Uprisings in the North are sponsored by Confederate Agents, Copperheads, and Southern Sympathizers, while the ones in the South are either local, or sponsored by some other power. List of...
  4. DBWI: Virginia Secedes

    During the American Civil War, there was a lot of suspense over whether the remaining slave states would stay in the Union or join the seceding states. Virginia was no exception. Things were touch-and-go for a while, but as we all know, Virginia ended up staying in the Union. What if Virginia...
  5. AHC: Break Up Canada

    What PODs after 1900 could've produced a "velvet revolution of the north" leading to an end to the Canadian Federation? A violent civil war is unlikely, but Quebec came very close to leaving. Once Quebec leaves, it would set a precedent for the remaining English speaking provinces to leave as...
  6. Odinson

    If slavery had been banned, could the American civil war still happen?

    If the United States had taken care of the issue of slavery early on before it became a true problem (ex: it's banned in the constitution, or Jefferson manages to eliminate it during his term), could an alt ACW happen at all under the scenario? Could there be war over States rights or anything else?
  7. AHC: Kentucky in the Confederacy

    I have always wondered what differences would occur if Kentucky would join the Confederacy at some point. Personally I think it would be less than most people think (this thinking is probably due to Lincolns saying at the outbreak of the CW for fear of DC being cutoff from the North). However...
  8. piratedude

    Debate/Question: secession constitutionality

    A while back a thread got briefly sidetracked debating the matter of secession before being asked to stop. Id like to see the topic explored some more. The main issues, from what I could tell where these: Is there a Natural/Human Right to secession? If so, what is the nature of this right...
  9. What If Massachusetts Bay charter was revoked in 1638 and the colony declared independence?

    Actually, it wasn't John Fiske but Perry Miller in his Orthodoxy in Massachusetts that in 1638 when there was a threat of MBC charter being revoked, the colony's leaders would have risen to an armed resistance if necessary, and possibly the monument in Bunker Hill would celebrate an earlier date...
  10. If United Colonies of New England declared independence in 1661 how would England react?

    In the Puritan colonies of New England, there had been separatism from the beginning. In Massachusetts Bay, governor Winthrop in his letter to the English lords of trade warned in 1638 that if the King was about to enroach upon their liberties in any way, the people of the colony would doubtless...
  11. Zachariah

    AHC: Republic of Rose Island survives

    The Republic of Rose Island (Esperanto: Respubliko de la Insulo de la Rozoj) was a micronation on a man-made platform in the Adriatic Sea, 11 kilometres (6.8 mi) off the coast of the province of Rimini, Italy. In 1967, Italian engineer Giorgio Rosa funded the construction of a 400-square-metre...
  12. Old1812

    WI: Kentucky Secedes

    Among my favorite PODs related to the Civil War are those related to Kentucky. So let's suppose that in 1861 three of the ten congressmen elected are Democrats (other than the 1st district, there was Southern support in the 2nd, 3rd, and 10th as well). In the elections for the state...
  13. SpookyBoy

    AHC: Jørgen Jørgensen successfully establishes an independent Iceland in 1809

    Iceland was ruled by mainland Scandinavian powers from the end of the Sturlung Era until 1944, but in 1809, there was a little-known attempt by a Danish explorer named Jørgen Jørgensen to establish an independent state after the governer wouldn't permit trade, apparently with the intention of...
  14. Crying

    Secessions in a USA destroyed in the War of 1812?

    So let's say that the War of 1812 absolutely fucks America up in a big way. Britain does well and brings Canada's border further down south, New England secedes, their economy tanks, etc... Basically it went about as bad as it could possibly go for them without invoking ASBs. You're left with a...
  15. Crying

    Poll: Best name for an independent New England area?

    In a timeline/map I'm making, New England will secede from the USA after a particularly rough War of 1812 and I wanted to give it a more unique name than 'The Commonwealth of New England' or the 'Federal States of America' or something else like that, so I gathered a few names that I...
  16. The Potomac Calls: WI Virginia Elected a Unionist Governor in 1859?

    "The Potomac Calls" WI Virginia Elected a Unionist Governor in 1859? A New Timeline By Japhy Prologue Richmond May 26th, 1859 Evening Even at this late hour, and even with the quirks of the Virginia Constitution which meant that it would be seven months before the result came into effect...
  17. Zachariah

    AHC: Balkanize the British Isles

    When talking about Scottish independence, several British political figures such as Gordon Brown have spoken of the "Balkanisation of Britain". So, bearing that in mind, I decided to issue this AH challenge- try and come up with a plausible TL in which the United Kingdom of Great Britain and...
  18. Crying

    AHC: Novgorodian Nationalism

    Your challenges is to, with any POD you wish, have 'Novgorodian' people be seen as seperate from the rest of Russians, much like Belarusians and the Ukrainians. Bonus points if it has a secessionist movement and a point multiplier if it actually manages to secede/become independent by "modern day."
  19. Seceding From Secession

    If the Union got an earlier start during the American Civil War and had enough troops on the borders with the CSA, how many potential new states could be created in the way that West Virginia came into being? Or alternatively is it at all possible that vindictive Union States might be granted...
  20. thezerech

    What if California seceeded from the Union during the Civil War to stay neutral?

    For those of you who did not know, California actually did come close to seceding from the Union during the Civil War. The Governor John B. Weller had decided if it came to war between the States, he would try and secede from the Union to form an Independent California Republic. However his term...
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