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  1. GameBawesome

    WI: The Ottoman Government sides with Mustafa Kemal

    In OTL, the Ottoman Government sides with the European powers, during the War of Turkish Independence, against the Grand National Assembly. The Turks won, and the Ottoman Sultanate and Caliphate were abolished by Mustafa Kemal. But what if, instead of siding with the Europeans, the Ottoman...
  2. Whiteshore

    Ottomans go extinct in 1807-1808: What happens next?

    Historically, the period between 1807-1808 was a period which saw great instability in the Ottoman Empire with Selim III and Mustafa IV killed and an attempted coup attempted against Mahmud II delaying his proposed reforms, but what if the series of coups and general unrest led to the extinction...
  3. GameBawesome

    (Mostly) Unified Medevial/Renissance Italy VS Ottomans

    (A bit ASB, and ignoring a lot of butterflies and events at that time, just mostly a compare two empires) What if most of Italy was unified, between 14th Century-17th Century? How would the combined armies of Italians, face off against the Ottoman Empire? Venice is still independent, but...
  4. WI: Russia and Austria Support Muhammad Ali’s Egypt

    During the Oriental Crisis, Russia and Austria took sides against Muhammad Ali’s Egypt as it expanded into territories held by the Ottoman Empire. Even though Russia and Austria weren’t on good terms with the Ottomans, they weren’t fans of a rising Egypt. However, what if Muhammad Ali decided...
  5. GameBawesome

    WI: Independent Kingdom of Granada

    What if, the Moriscos Revolt in 1569-1571, was more successful, becoming more large scale, they gain larger support from the Ottomans, and they capture Granada in 1568. The Spanish armies give up because of guerilla warfare, and the conflict draws out, and Kingdom of Granada becomes independent...
  6. WI: The Ottomans take Malta

    What if the Great Siege of Malta had ended in an Ottoman victory? What repercussions might their triumph have had?
  7. KingOnTheEdge

    AHC: Save The Ottoman Empire

    otl, the period after the Siege of Vienna up to 1918 was bad for the ottomans- repulsed by their catholic rivals, loss of the balkans, greece, and the whole of north africa (not in that order), finally breathing it's last in 1918 for Ataturk to come in and create the modern republic. Your...
  8. Whiteshore

    No Safavids: How does Persia develop

    Let's say the Safavids remain a Sufi order instead of becoming a temporal power which would develop into an empire? How does Persia develop without the Safavids? Who unifies Persia instead of the Safavids? How far could the Ottomans penetrate in Persia? Could we see Babur ITTL form an alt-Mughal...
  9. KingOnTheEdge

    Question: Daughters of Ottoman Sultans?

    The ottoman harem is rather famous, as is the succession of the empire (i.e Sultan picks the best son, Best kills the rest when the time comes). The ottomans went the whole of their five hundred existence without a Sultana on the throne, which makes sense to be honest, for no other reason than...
  10. WI: The Ottoman’s “Enver-Leontiev Treaty” came to pass?

    So, according to McMeekin’s The Ottoman Endgame, on the 5th August 1914 M N Leontiev the Russian Military Attaché in Constantinople paid a visit to Enver Pasha the Ottoman Minister of War. What Enver proposed was staggering. According to McMeekin (referencing diplomatic notes and diary entries...
  11. KingOnTheEdge

    Discussion: How Would You End The Great War

    Versailles, and more importantly, the reaction to it, are some of the key points of the twentieth century. Your goal, with ASBs enforcing your wishes, is to rewrite Versailles and the other treaties of the war to limit the likelyhood of a second great war. Note: obviously these countries peaced...
  12. Spain Focuses on North Africa, the Middle East, and the Ottomans Instead of Europe

    Instead of putting so much money and resources in getting involved with European conflicts (probably means not getting into a union with the Habsburgs), what if Spain (during the 16th, 17th, ... centuries) decides to not be so involved with Europe and instead focus its energies in North Africa...
  13. How far can the Ottoman Empire realistically expand at the highest?

    As the title says, how far does the Ottoman Empire can realistically expand at it's highest, assuming everything goes well for them and under competent leadership? So, do you think the Ottoman Empire can expanded themselves bigger than OTL or that's as far as they go in their holdings? The...
  14. Eparkhos_Ton_Trapezous

    Run Through the Šar-Plannina: A Springtime of the Vardar Basin Timeline

    After making so many jokes about Vardar Insurgents in other threads, I'm actually going to make a timeline about said Vardar Insurgents.
  15. Koprulu Mustafa Pasha

    DBWI: Catherine of Russia not assassinated?

    Catherine, wife of Czar Peter III (1762-1804), was assassinated in 1762. Rumors tell that Czar Peter III was behind this and it is no secret he hated his wife Catherine. Now Peter III was not a bad Czar. He fought and beat the Danes in 1762-1765. He formed an alliance with Prussia (God knows...
  16. WI: Ottomans join napoleonic wars?

    The question is the title, what are the effects, if any of the ottomans joining the napoleonic wars on the side of the french? Would it lead to a faster ottoman collapse or would they be able to cement France's hegemony and Selim can continue with his modernization of the empire?
  17. WI: Early Ottomans converting to Orthodoxy

    As the title says. There may be a possibility, helped by certain events of course, for the first Ottoman beys to become Christian Orthodox? If yes, how they would fare? They would have the energy to unify Anatolia, conquering the Balkans, building their Empire - likely a Roman Empire, not...
  18. JustinianTheGrand

    What if the Pope declared a Crusade against the Ottomans in 1470?

    The fall of Constantinople is often considered to be one of the biggest blows to Christendom in history. However, the remaining Christian Kingdoms did not attempt to reclaim the ancient city. What if the Pope decided to declare a crusade to reclaim the Balkans and Anatolia around 1470 against...
  19. AHC/WI: Ottoman Empire Collapses Sooner

    The breakup of the Ottoman Empire after the First World War came after a century of decline which saw it lose vast amounts of territory. But even in 1914, they were still in control of many strategically and symbollically important territories. They had the Strait of Marmara, and therefore the...
  20. Ibrahim_Pasha

    WI: Ottoman Empire collapses in 1807-1808

    I am currently exploring the possibility of using the Ottoman palace coups in 1807-1808 as a POD for the early collapse of the empire. If Mahmud II is successfully murdered, who would become the sultan? Would Mustafa Bayraktar take the throne after he deposes Mustafa IV, or is there some distant...
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